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Message 1779188 - Posted: 15 Apr 2016, 0:08:29 UTC

Ok I found the 8pin extension cable, ugh, I'm still hurting and tired too, but I'm making progress.
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Message 1779195 - Posted: 15 Apr 2016, 1:14:23 UTC

I found the 8pin extension cable, hooked everything up, then the power went out, 9:30pm estimated for power restoration, oops power waz just restored, thanks SCE.

Everytime the wind exceeds 42mph, power goes out here... :(

Later i will see about powering up this new pc. It's now dinner time for Me.

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Message 1779201 - Posted: 15 Apr 2016, 2:00:06 UTC

Ok, I just powered up My new pc, same result on the readout, FF, so I have tried 2 psus, the only things left is tbe bios chip and an rma to evga, but I will try the old bios chip first, yeah I have evga in My phone.

Hi Sciman Steve.

If this doesn't. Work and I need an rma, I will be working on the EVGA P55 FTW motherboard, the one with the 3.06GHz Xeon cpu (95w) inside, but that calls for more parts from the old pc.

If I do an rma, I hope I don't get an X99 motherboard, since that would mean new ddr4 ram and a cpu would be required, that is not in my budget.

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Message 1779369 - Posted: 15 Apr 2016, 19:28:06 UTC
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Ok here I go again, I changed out the new bios chip for the old bios chip, result: FF I will take the battery out 1 more time, but I think an rma just might be needed. Yes I lost the new chip in the case, no biggy, the chips are so small that I had to use my glasses, a magnifying glass, and needle nose pliers and a flashlight.

The ASUS RIVE has two bios chips in a pair of dip chips, old yes, but they are socketed and they really aren't too much bigger.

Installing the ASUS will take s bit, since I want to put the st1500 back in while I have the chance, since that is a 220mm long power supply, this is b to take a bit of time.

Oh and the 4 NEW struts for the car are here, yay!
At least something is going the way that I expect.
And the 2 boxes weigh 40lbs each, and yep Grace personally inspected both boxes.
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Message 1779376 - Posted: 15 Apr 2016, 19:54:44 UTC
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Alright, I called EVGA Tech Support and told them that I'd also replaced the bios chip, so the tech asked if I had another cpu available, I said yes, so I'm going to replace the cpu next, both are 3820 cpus at least, this should be the last part to replace, I don't know if I could rig the motherboard to run outside the case here, since I'm not sure if everything will reach.
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Message 1779437 - Posted: 15 Apr 2016, 23:07:24 UTC

I decided to remove the motherboard from the case and attempt to get the x79 Classified to run outside the case, to that end I've unplugged every last cable that was attached to the motherboard.

Now i just need to remove the PNY LC GTX 580 card and the motherboard, without removing the 2 radiators, then attach what's needed to try to get this x79 to run, if that doesn't work then I'll do a cpu swap.
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Message 1779713 - Posted: 16 Apr 2016, 20:35:12 UTC

Ok I got all 12 screws off of the EVGA X79 Classified motherboard, soon I'll get the 2 power cables where I want them at and see If our old friend FF shows up or not.

Yeah I need a tablet, is there an Andriod type tablet available for sale? I don't know, I'll have do a search for one. ;)
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Message 1779808 - Posted: 17 Apr 2016, 1:52:51 UTC

Ok, I tried powering up the EVGA X79 Classified motherboard with just the video card plugged in(4 psu cables, monitor cable, usb keyboard, and monitor too), no change, motherboard readout still says FF, even while on cardboard...

Is a cpu swap worth it, or should I just go ahead and test the ASUS Rampage IV Extreme motherboard instead?

I mean the EVGA X79 Classified seems pretty dang hopeless at this point.
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Message 1779819 - Posted: 17 Apr 2016, 2:31:12 UTC

I made a small post on Facebook under zoom314 with a picture of the EVGA X79 Classified powered up on cardboard, that does say FF, if one looks closely, I'd post the pic here, but I have no idea on how to do that from my phone.
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Message 1779845 - Posted: 17 Apr 2016, 6:31:29 UTC

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Message 1779914 - Posted: 17 Apr 2016, 16:40:48 UTC - in response to Message 1779845.  
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From CNet.com 5 rookie mistakes you can make when building a PC

Interesting, but I have not made any of those mistakes, I always make sure the cards are fully seated in the slots, I try to fully connect all the cables in the case, at least those that are needed, though yesterday I did for a few seconds forget to plug in 2 pcie cables on the PNY LC 580 video card, but I quickly killed the power at the psu switch. I've been building and troubleshooting pcs since 1992, some for a friend. So I think I'd not be making any big mistakes.

Today I'm going to try and remove the EVGA and connect the ASUS for testing, just like the EVGA is now.

If the ASUS powers up like it should, then I can fully install the motherboard in the case, if not, I'm running out of options and time. Bills will be due on the 1st of May, though one is due before that on the 29th of April. All of My notes are stuck on a usb stick/drive, those are very important to Me...

Very Important.

Now I need to wash the dishes and cook My breakfast, plus take 6 pills.

Later.
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Message 1779926 - Posted: 17 Apr 2016, 18:12:28 UTC

I found this on the cpu and on the copper block on the right, this is supposed to be a grain of rice worth of thermal compound, the coverage doesn't look big enough to Me, more like barely adequate, so I'm going to try and see what 2 grains will do on the ASUS motherboard, but first some cleanup.I found this on the cpu and on the copper block on the right, this is supposed to be a grain of rice worth of thermal compound, the coverage doesn't look big enough to Me, more like barely adequate, so I'm going to try and see what 2 grains will do on the ASUS motherboard, but first some cleanup.


I tried to copy the image from Facebook, but I only got the text, which is ok.

The pic shows that about 70%-75% of the cpu is covered.
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Message 1779933 - Posted: 17 Apr 2016, 18:59:45 UTC - in response to Message 1779926.  
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The pic shows that about 70%-75% of the cpu is covered.


The amount should be right but did you spread I? I am sure instructions call for that. You need 100% coverage to insure 100% contact. There can not be gaps in coverage. I have never installed a CPU without spreading the compound.

If that is what the picture shows, it is just plain wrongly applied.

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Message 1779986 - Posted: 17 Apr 2016, 23:57:08 UTC - in response to Message 1779933.  
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The pic shows that about 70%-75% of the cpu is covered.


The amount should be right but did you spread I? I am sure instructions call for that. You need 100% coverage to insure 100% contact. There can not be gaps in coverage. I have never installed a CPU without spreading the compound.

If that is what the picture shows, it is just plain wrongly applied.

This might seem stupid, but I put a grain of rices worth on the center of the cpu and let the block spread the compound, since I swapped cpus, I will get 100% coverage before any power is applied.

The other cpu I noticed had a few dark spots on the gold contacts, I had noticed this when I had first received tbe cpu, so maybe that is the problem, the spots almost don't show in a picture that I took today. That is about $200.00 down the drain maybe.

The current cpu in the EVGA X79 Classified has no spots anywhere and both x79 motherboards don't look like either has any pins out of place.
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Message 1779995 - Posted: 18 Apr 2016, 1:09:49 UTC - in response to Message 1779986.  


This might seem stupid, but I put a grain of rices worth on the center of the cpu and let the block spread the compound, since I swapped cpus, I will get 100% coverage before any power is applied.


Not true, you need to spread the paste, usually with something like a credit card to insure the minimum amount between the cooler and the CPU chip itself. There is not guarantee that it will spread on its own.

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Message 1780002 - Posted: 18 Apr 2016, 1:42:20 UTC - in response to Message 1779995.  


This might seem stupid, but I put a grain of rices worth on the center of the cpu and let the block spread the compound, since I swapped cpus, I will get 100% coverage before any power is applied.


Not true, you need to spread the paste, usually with something like a credit card to insure the minimum amount between the cooler and the CPU chip itself. There is not guarantee that it will spread on its own.

Yeah I used to do that when I was using AS5 on a cpu, but then that stuff is really thick, I will put more Noctua nt-h1 on the cpu until I get to 100% coverage.

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Message 1780004 - Posted: 18 Apr 2016, 2:36:17 UTC

Ok the EVGA X79 Classified is the cause, tbe readout still says FF, so it's rma time.

Asap on monday I'm transferring everything to the ASUS Rampage IV Extreme motherboard, I'm beat and I need to cook my dinner now. Then I will call EVGA again.

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Message 1780180 - Posted: 18 Apr 2016, 20:36:40 UTC

Ok, today I did a "Brain Transplant", from the EVGA to the ASUS. Bwahahaha...
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Message 1780447 - Posted: 19 Apr 2016, 21:44:39 UTC

Now I have some fantastic news to report, I have a working motherboard and cpu combo, my ASUS Rampage IV Extreme motherboard, i7 3820 cpu, and Corsair Vengeance 1866MHz memory(2*8GB @ 1866 in bios) works, I have 3 pics up on Facebook now.

I just have to swap psus, mount the motherboard in the case, install all the internal cables, then the external cables, drivers(I think my drivers DVD might need replacement, maybe), then I can put my phone away, I think that i'm getting a backache from it.
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Message 1780456 - Posted: 19 Apr 2016, 21:58:05 UTC
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Congrats on your success.

However, I must differ with your manner of dealing with heat sink compound.
What you want is the thinnest layer possible which still makes full contact between the cpu and heatsink.
Putting a dab in the middle and relying on the heat sink pressure to spread it is not likely to get that.
I always spread it on the heatsink with a credit card, and then if it is a new installation, take it back apart to make sure there is complete coverage, and that the cpu or heatsink are perfectly flat. Then spread it back out and reinstall.

If you are not pushing the cpu particularly hard, you may get by with your method, but you would probably get lower temperatures if you did it properly.

As one who has done a lot of overclocking where this was an important issue, I do know what I am talking about.

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