yea if your box and wiring is that old, I would suggest and electrician to look at it. You can bump up some (depending on the number breaks in wire) that fall into the electrical code region.

you have extra breaker slots, but no idea how easy it is to get a new wire from there to here, if the current wires won't support it.

wish I was there to see inside panel and look around, but that's all I can say right now.

I'll have to remove the screw and take a pic, yeah I've looked inside, so far that's all, to do any work I'd have to kill the main breaker at the top, or even on the 100A stub that's nearby. It's an old park, this side more than the other(1950's vs 1960's from what I'm told and the park has had dozens of managers since then), one of these days the park is going to need all new water pipes, up until maybe a month ago, water pipes were springing a leak every few days or so. I do know I have one hell of a electrical connection cable, which has operated without fail since Nov 2006 and yes there is copper on either end and the cable is aluminum, make a fist, it's about that big, about from the knuckles to the wrist, nice thick and at the time, new, with no oxidation thankfully. I once had to replace a dual light switch and to turn an outlet right side up, now that was tight.

I had an electrician at one time add two 20A 120v circuits, adding 4 more is not hard, nor is moving one.

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If you want to get breakers yourself, you might try these guys, Relectric. They specialize in old and hard to find circuit breakers.

A few years ago I needed a 20 and a 30 amp 3-phase breakers for our old GE breaker box, and they had them right in stock.

They do handle Bryant and Murray brand of breakers, send them an e-mail and tell them what you want to do, I am sure they would be glad to help you out.

Bruce

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Bruce

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If you want to get breakers yourself, you might try these guys, Relectric. They specialize in old and hard to find circuit breakers.

A few years ago I needed a 20 and a 30 amp 3-phase breakers for our old GE breaker box, and they had them right in stock.

They do handle Bryant and Murray brand of breakers, send them an e-mail and tell them what you want to do, I am sure they would be glad to help you out.

Bruce

Amazon also has Murray breakers, in an MP2020, for about $12.97ea for New, at least before shipping, as soon as I can, I'd probably will be buying 3 of them. Between this and the outlet problems where My tv and cable modem are at, I think I should have $130-140 by October, I'm hoping that would be enough.



Question is, does Murray make one design of breakers or do they make one design for mobile homes and another for stick built homes?

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It doesn't matter what type oh home, garage, or dog house the power panel is in.

If it's the right breaker for the panel, it will work.

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It is vital that you have a breaker that is of the correct rating and will fit your existing panel.




Off subject for a moment
(I've spent three hours today explaining to someone who should know better why they are forever suffering welded contacts on a three-phase AC rated breaker being used to break the equivalent total load on each of the three contacts, the load is DC and inductive. A classic case of someone seeing that the breaker was rated for 1kW, 415v volt, so they thought it would switch 3 DC loads of 10A /110v... I know there was a lot of smoke released when the breaker failed to open - I was in the room next door and heard the bang)

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It doesn't matter what type oh home, garage, or dog house the power panel is in.

If it's the right breaker for the panel, it will work.

Yeah I understand that, I was just wondering does Murray make different breakers for mobile homes or are they all the same interface on the back? I probably should just ask Murray on this.

As the terminator said: I'll be back.

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My 1st Smart phone, a Virgin Mobile Samsung Galaxy Ring, charging off MY PC on a usb port, which also allows the camera to upload pics too.

Nice blue skies, some clouds, plus a Volcanic Cinder Cone or two, taken with My Samsung Galaxy Ring phone, which is hooked up to My PC charging, the phone has a USB cable that hooks up to either a charger or the PC. The last picture was a test shot, not so good, but outside, beautiful shots.

Mine is secured with a key and is in the 5.0GHz spectrum of a Netgear WNDR3400v2 N600 router, that I got used for about $30. The phone is now 82% charged , it was @ 53% about an hour back, My PC is doing better than the wall did earlier today, that took hours. This pic was taken by the Samsung Galaxy Ring, the 1st with the Canon a540.

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Ok I did something, I took a pic of the ram, all 16GB of Corsair Vengeance 1866MHz ram, yep I used the phone, I don't know yet if the phone has any camera flash setting or not, so I experimented, this one was the best.

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Ok I did something, I took a pic of the ram, all 16GB of Corsair Vengeance 1866MHz ram, yep I used the phone, I don't know yet if the phone has any camera flash setting or not, so I experimented, this one was the best.
[IMG ]http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n107/JokerCPoC/EVGA%20X79%20Classified/Corsair-Vengeance1866%20006_zpsemz8bptn.jpg[/IMG]

If Samsung used the same interface on that phone then I would imagine the camera app looks something like this http://i.imgur.com/ZC92xCB.png. Tapping the gear icon would let you go into the first level menu to toggle the flash modes from off, on, & auto. Then while that is open tapping the gear icon again, or using the menu button on the phone would open the advanced menu options. Where you can adjust further camera settings like white balance.

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Ok I did something, I took a pic of the ram, all 16GB of Corsair Vengeance 1866MHz ram, yep I used the phone, I don't know yet if the phone has any camera flash setting or not, so I experimented, this one was the best.
[IMG ]http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n107/JokerCPoC/EVGA%20X79%20Classified/Corsair-Vengeance1866%20006_zpsemz8bptn.jpg[/IMG]

If Samsung used the same interface on that phone then I would imagine the camera app looks something like this http://i.imgur.com/ZC92xCB.png. Tapping the gear icon would let you go into the first level menu to toggle the flash modes from off, on, & auto. Then while that is open tapping the gear icon again, or using the menu button on the phone would open the advanced menu options. Where you can adjust further camera settings like white balance.

I found out, that there is no camera flash on the Galaxy series, this was to make a thin phone, so the camera(there are 2, a 1.3mp and a 5.0mp, supposedly, I've only been able to use the larger one), so the Canon a540 will do any interior shots for the foreseeable future, but then it can be done, in a flash.

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Ok I did something, I took a pic of the ram, all 16GB of Corsair Vengeance 1866MHz ram, yep I used the phone, I don't know yet if the phone has any camera flash setting or not, so I experimented, this one was the best.
[IMG ]http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n107/JokerCPoC/EVGA%20X79%20Classified/Corsair-Vengeance1866%20006_zpsemz8bptn.jpg[/IMG]

If Samsung used the same interface on that phone then I would imagine the camera app looks something like this http://i.imgur.com/ZC92xCB.png. Tapping the gear icon would let you go into the first level menu to toggle the flash modes from off, on, & auto. Then while that is open tapping the gear icon again, or using the menu button on the phone would open the advanced menu options. Where you can adjust further camera settings like white balance.

I found out, that there is no camera flash on the Galaxy series, this was to make a thin phone, so the camera(there are 2, a 1.3mp and a 5.0mp, supposedly, I've only been able to use the larger one), so the Canon a540 will do any interior shots for the foreseeable future, but then it can be done, in a flash.

Galaxy series is the name Samsung uses for all of their tablets & phones. Looking at a review for the Galaxy Ring does show it has a flash. I have yet to ever use the front facing camera on my Galaxy S4 for anything other than "oh look the front camera works".
I have a nice 16MP Nikon camera I rarely use at 16MP. Since images at that size are to large to reasonably use on the internet.

Either camera should be good for pics of your builds however the review for the phone did state "This 5-megapixel camera took surprisingly poor photos."

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Ok I did something, I took a pic of the ram, all 16GB of Corsair Vengeance 1866MHz ram, yep I used the phone, I don't know yet if the phone has any camera flash setting or not, so I experimented, this one was the best.
[IMG ]http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n107/JokerCPoC/EVGA%20X79%20Classified/Corsair-Vengeance1866%20006_zpsemz8bptn.jpg[/IMG]

If Samsung used the same interface on that phone then I would imagine the camera app looks something like this http://i.imgur.com/ZC92xCB.png. Tapping the gear icon would let you go into the first level menu to toggle the flash modes from off, on, & auto. Then while that is open tapping the gear icon again, or using the menu button on the phone would open the advanced menu options. Where you can adjust further camera settings like white balance.

I found out, that there is no camera flash on the Galaxy series, this was to make a thin phone, so the camera(there are 2, a 1.3mp and a 5.0mp, supposedly, I've only been able to use the larger one), so the Canon a540 will do any interior shots for the foreseeable future, but then it can be done, in a flash.

Galaxy series is the name Samsung uses for all of their tablets & phones. Looking at a review for the Galaxy Ring does show it has a flash. I have yet to ever use the front facing camera on my Galaxy S4 for anything other than "oh look the front camera works".
I have a nice 16MP Nikon camera I rarely use at 16MP. Since images at that size are to large to reasonably use on the internet.

Either camera should be good for pics of your builds however the review for the phone did state "This 5-megapixel camera took surprisingly poor photos."

I looked for flash settings in the Ring, I didn't find anything, I even tapped the camera, nothing seen there either, if the camera has it, it would require an app that I don't have. I did find out how to activate the 1.3mp camera vs the 5.0mp, but no flash. So I'm dropping this, it's not there and I've looked. I need to go wash dishes and cook My breakfast, later.

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Vic, it has flash but just on the 5MP camera.
Check for an app called S-Voice or AVC, it should be on the phone in the app section.
Start it and just say flash on.
Dont forget to switch it off again.

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Vic, it has flash but just on the 5MP camera.
Check for an app called S-Voice or AVC, it should be on the phone in the app section.
Start it and just say flash on.
Dont forget to switch it off again.

Nope, 38 apps, not one is labeled like that or even close.

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Ok getting back to the replacement PC of mine, I just installed the 16GB of Corsair 1866MHz DDR3 ram(2x8GB), this comes in RED or BLACK, technically in Blue and Gold also, but finding those at 1866MHz is hit and miss today it seems, if I'm wrong, so be it. As can be seen I'll have to reattach some power cables too, which remained unconnected since My last try at getting this beast to work right. There is a 3rd pic in the camera showing the cables on the primary video card being connected, but after I took the pic, the camera said that the AA batteries needed to be recharged and I have no spares at the moment.

A slight close up.

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Looking good! That is one monster of a case.

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Looking good! That is one monster of a case.

Oh just wait after I get a thermaltake X9 case, sure it's not as tall, but it's twice as wide, easily.

Oh and My TV, it lives!!! Yeah it needed a new lamp, I just took a couple of pics and yes I moved the cord for the routers and TV equipment to a new location.
The 1st lamp was wrapped like so, it arrived in perfect shape, I'll test the 2nd on the weekend, that cord tired Me out, since I could almost not get up.

Sure the camera picture isn't that great, but the TV is. WWI in color...

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Well the model numbers on the breakers on the left clearly show what you have/need.

and yea it looks like and old box ... and I can't think of why the hell they put a pin between 2 different breakers on the right side.

These are double breakers on a single lug inside. The breaker on the right, the two connected are for a 240v circuit, like for an electric water heater. those two are on opposite legs inside the panel.

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Well the model numbers on the breakers on the left clearly show what you have/need.

and yea it looks like and old box ... and I can't think of why the hell they put a pin between 2 different breakers on the right side.

These are double breakers on a single lug inside. The breaker on the right, the two connected are for a 240v circuit, like for an electric water heater. those two are on opposite legs inside the panel.

My water heater is gas fired of course, I think someone wired this place in a hurry.

My whole front room, front door light and the light in the small bathroom are on one circuit,
I think there are two circuits in the kitchen, I don't have any 240v appliances there either,
the master bedroom is on it's own circuit,
the washer/gas dryer are on their own circuit, with the back door light,
a circuit for the master bath,
a circuit for the small bath outlet and the small bedroom.

Plus there are two 120v 20A circuits and then the gas central heater has a circuit(s) for the blower, the last is the one that needs two new breakers.

I just moved a powerstrip for the TV and router to another electrical outlet today, that wasn't easy for Me either, I think that outlet was used a lot before I got the place or something.

I do want to add four 120v 20A circuits in the front room, just for the PCs I'm slowly building and a 15A circuit for the 125 gallon aquarium, though not where it's at now.

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Ok time for an update, I have Bad news folks, the New Corsair ram did not help a thing, the next thing to try would be a cpu cooler swap or a motherboard swap, but since a new cooler is a ways off, like maybe in December 2015 for even a Corsair H80i GT, I'm still stuck in FF Land with the motherboard, the fans work and so do a lot of leds, so it's down to the cpu cooler or the motherboard bios chip, the chip that I installed, I tried to make sure pin 1 on both the old chip and the new chip were in the same spot, so I don't know what to say, I will just swap in the Asus Rampage IV Extreme motherboard and its i7 3820 cpu and see what happens before December rolls around, just not today, so for the moment I'm just going to wait for the torx security screwdrivers to show up in the mail. But at least I'm making progress. sigh.

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