Just managed to kill competitor's (Ubuntu) Live USB bootable image. Not impressed in Linux stability at all :/
Well, I have another Live USB, now with Windows. Lets see what it can do ...

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WoW....

My Win10 netbook refuses to sign me in!!!!!

"This sign-in option is disabled because of failed sign-in attempts or repeated shutdowns (!!!!!! WTF!!!!!). Use a different sign-in option, or keep your device powered on for at least 2 hours (!!!!!!!) and then try again".

So, I should leave work undone just because of crazy Windows demands??!!

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Let me ask you, what browser do you use? I'll bet it's open source. ;)

You mean the one with over 1,000 CVE's? BTW last time I checked surfing the internet wasn't considered work, in fact at most places it will get you fired. And how much time and effort goes into firewalls because of all the bugs in the open source network software?

But you still don't understand. If there is a bug in open source you the user must patch it and there isn't anyone to sue because the software isn't "merchantable" or "fit for a particular purpose." Now if that bug happens to order your million dollar machine to break itself and now you can't make your product for a couple of weeks while it is being fixed, go sing the praises of your great software, while you spec software that is certified to work with your million dollar machine's exact model and serial number.

Or let me put it this way, do you want the flight control software on the jumbo jet you just got on to be a canned open source program that promises to fly everything from hobby drones to falcon rockets, or do you want it to be custom software made specifically for that air-frame with the knowledge of the flight test engineers?

I'm not saying you can't surf the internet or make a slide presentation with open source. I'm saying when it comes to real world software for actually doing real productive things that interface with the real world, even you don't want 100% open source. And the moment you realize that, you know either you get closed software or you hire a team of software engineers.

Let me ask you, what browser do you use? I'll bet it's open source. ;)

You mean the one with over 1,000 CVE's? BTW last time I checked surfing the internet wasn't considered work, in fact at most places it will get you fired. And how much time and effort goes into firewalls because of all the bugs in the open source network software?

But you still don't understand. If there is a bug in open source you the user must patch it and there isn't anyone to sue because the software isn't "merchantable" or "fit for a particular purpose." Now if that bug happens to order your million dollar machine to break itself and now you can't make your product for a couple of weeks while it is being fixed, go sing the praises of your great software, while you spec software that is certified to work with your million dollar machine's exact model and serial number.

Or let me put it this way, do you want the flight control software on the jumbo jet you just got on to be a canned open source program that promises to fly everything from hobby drones to falcon rockets, or do you want it to be custom software made specifically for that air-frame with the knowledge of the flight test engineers?

I'm not saying you can't surf the internet or make a slide presentation with open source. I'm saying when it comes to real world software for actually doing real productive things that interface with the real world, even you don't want 100% open source. And the moment you realize that, you know either you get closed software or you hire a team of software engineers.

There's a place in this world for open source software, and there's a place in this world for dedicated software.

You creating bogus scenarios to prove YOUR point is useless. All you're doing is proving that YOU believe ALL open source software to be evil.

BTW, I'm retired and I CAN surf the Internet all I want and you ain't got NOTHING to say about it. And I will use my OPEN SOURCE browser to do just that. You can use Internet Exploder and EDGE all you want and I'll be MUCH more secure on the Internet than you.

Stop beating the dead horse. No one wants to here your evil ramblings about open source software "being evil". Just drop it already!

Siran

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Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Stop beating the dead horse. No one wants to here your evil ramblings about open source software "being evil". Just drop it already!
Siran

Several years ago, a "Linux rules the world" thread appeared. At that time, Linux share of the market was 1.2%. So in several years, it lost 0.4%.
WHEN will it rule the world?
Can any Linux guru provide us with an actual timescale as to when that will happen?

[WHEN will it rule the world?

I don't think you can ever answer that, because you'll have to define the platform you're comparing it against. Else the answer is a shrug.
Servers run predominantly Linux, FreeBSD and other Unix style operating systems. You can't navigate the internet without Linux, as all of the search engines, big online stores and even the Internet backbones run some form of Linux.

Does that compare to how Windows 7 is still the most used OS on desktop platforms and Android is the most used OS on hand held devices? Even Microsoft is now distributing Linux and with Windows Subsystem for Linux support in Windows 10, that will only grow further. All you have to wonder about is if you want a Microsoft Linux distro.

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All you have to wonder about is if you want a Microsoft Linux distro.

If Win 10 is anything to go by, NO.

Stop beating the dead horse. No one wants to here your evil ramblings about open source software "being evil". Just drop it already!

And this thread was meant to be about the pros & cons of Win10, yet the LINUX zealots hijack it for their own use. Of course that was after the M$ is Satan squad trashed it themselves.
Might as well just lock this thread- other than being a platform for people to bitch about Win10 it serves no useful purpose.

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Grant
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Does that compare to how Windows 7 is still the most used OS on desktop platforms and Android is the most used OS on hand held devices? Even Microsoft is now distributing Linux and with Windows Subsystem for Linux support in Windows 10, that will only grow further.

And Chrome books are soon going to be able to run Windows, and Windows is being developed to run on ARM devices, allowing it to grow further.

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Grant
Darwin NT

Stop beating the dead horse...

And this thread was meant to be about the pros & cons of Win10, ...

as it relates to Win10's use in running BOINC and related apps.
Face it, the thread failed on day 1.

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Stop beating the dead horse. No one wants to here your evil ramblings about open source software "being evil". Just drop it already!

And this thread was meant to be about the pros & cons of Win10, yet the LINUX zealots hijack it for their own use. Of course that was after the M$ is Satan squad trashed it themselves.
Might as well just lock this thread- other than being a platform for people to bitch about Win10 it serves no useful purpose.

Hi Grant,

The thread is still about Windows 10 pros and cons. It's when someone comes to the thread and starts beating a dead horse about his or her beliefs of something that has nothing to do with what this thread is about that taints the thread.

I have been enjoying this thread from its beginning. I check it every day for new posts. I would hate to see the thread go away.

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Stop beating the dead horse...

And this thread was meant to be about the pros & cons of Win10, ...

as it relates to Win10's use in running BOINC and related apps.
Face it, the thread failed on day 1.

This thread has not failed. There is a mine of information in it about the pros and cons of Windows 10.

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Plenty of cons with all Windows platforms after Win7, but I've yet to find or see any pro's from the lot of them (Win8/8.1/10) in any shape or form. ;-)

Cheers.

About 98% of the Top500 computers run Linux.
Tullio

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About 98% of the Top500 computers run Linux.
Tullio

That`s just because of the special sauce, not win 10 in particular.

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Primarily true I suppose. But my last machine was running Win10 and I didn't really feel any urgent need to drop Win10 and move to Linux until Win10 blew up on me 3 times in a row. It wouldn't let me restore any backup and then wouldn't let me do a complete reinstall from the install USB. I never had that much trouble with Windows 7 which I ran without any issues from 2011 till 2017.

So after much frustration and two wasted days, I said to hell with Win 10 and had Ubuntu 18.04 up and running in an hour. Never going back unless it would be to Windows 7.

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Never going back unless it would be to Windows 7.

And be in Update Hell for three days? Best not. :)

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In LHC@home, which uses also VirtualBox on some projects, 67% of the users run Linux, 21% run Windows 10, the rest other Windows and Darwin. I am running Windows 10 on my fastest PC and it runs well. Two Linux boxes have older and slower CPUs. The Windows 10 PC has a Ryzen 5 1400 with 4 cores which runs eight tasks and a GPU task on its GTX 1060 GPU.
Tullio
I have 19 ghost tasks not downloaded on my main Linux box on November 18. They are given as running but they are not.

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Never going back unless it would be to Windows 7.

And be in Update Hell for three days? Best not. :)

Ubuntu was running good until about 2 updates ago. Then things have slowly started to go wrong. At first it was simple things but slowly getting worse. I've stopped updating the computers to try and keep them stable but of the 2 that I did update, I getting error message in running some of my bash files.

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I've only got 2 issues with Win10.

1 The forced updates.
I run WIn10 Pro, so I can postpone most updates for over 3 months, as well as opt for what was the business update branch- basically the updates don't start coming through till after all home/personal systems have been updated, then I get them 3 months after that due to my update delay settings. That generally gives them time to fix things that should have been fixed before the update was rolled out.
However it should be possible as it was with previous versions to not do certain updates- I don't run Internet Information Services, so I don't need those updates. And not being in Uzbekistan I don't need their DST or language pack updates, so it should be possible to not accept them.
Running WIn10 Pro makes it possible to use the Group Policy Editor to block driver updates- it's something that should be possible on Home versions as well. As we've noticed here after each new round up dates comes through and people's systems start throwing GPU computation errors, not all updates offer improvements.

2 When I use the search function on my computer, it because i'm searching my computer. I don't want any web results- if I did, i'd be searching the web, not my computer. Unfortunately searching my computer only isn't possible. Considerable annoyance.


As for all the other things people complain about relating to Win 10, they're just the same as the complaints people have made about every new OS since DOS was first released.

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Darwin NT