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Message 1932446 - Posted: 28 Apr 2018, 4:13:07 UTC - in response to Message 1932335.  
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It looks like the failed Spring Creators update (commonly known as Redstone 4) that was supposed to happen on 10 April, will be available for d/l on 30 April and via Windows update on 8 May (update Tuesday) -- More bloatware. ...


I just had 100 GPU tasks (on my Nvidia GTX 1060) fail instantly and found out that my computer was apparently in the middle of installing this update. Might be a coincidence, but pretty odd I've done thousands of work units per week for ages and only had one failed one until this update was installing. Grrrr....

99 MB tasks, 1 AP task -- all I've checked had the same "too many exits" errors.
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Message 1932455 - Posted: 28 Apr 2018, 6:23:33 UTC - in response to Message 1932446.  

It looks like the failed Spring Creators update (commonly known as Redstone 4) that was supposed to happen on 10 April, will be available for d/l on 30 April and via Windows update on 8 May (update Tuesday) -- More bloatware. ...


I just had 100 GPU tasks (on my Nvidia GTX 1060) fail instantly and found out that my computer was apparently in the middle of installing this update.

The update mentioned has yet to be released.
Your system was most likely downloading some other update, and probably included a video driver in that update.

Suspend all processing in the BOINC Manager.
Download the current video driver from NVidia and install it. Once it's installed, re-enable processing in the BOJNC Manager & see if that sorts things out.
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Message 1932460 - Posted: 28 Apr 2018, 7:05:27 UTC - in response to Message 1932455.  
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The update mentioned has yet to be released.
Your system was most likely downloading some other update, and probably included a video driver in that update.

Suspend all processing in the BOINC Manager.
Download the current video driver from NVidia and install it. Once it's installed, re-enable processing in the BOJNC Manager & see if that sorts things out.

Oops - sorry didn't catch that. The update that clobbered everything was "2018-04 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1709 for x64 based Systems (KB4093105)"

In any case, after the forced reboot of my system the GPU again resumed processing tasks. Before the reboot a check of GPU-Z showed the card was only idling at 139 MHz, whereas it normally is running between 1847-1860 MHz. None of the tasks that have processed since the reboot have errored out, so in any case things seem to be working fine since.

I've been running the most recent video driver for a couple of days, ver: 397.31.
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Message 1932469 - Posted: 28 Apr 2018, 8:01:16 UTC - in response to Message 1932460.  

Again, another reason to stop Windows 10 from updating your video drivers with a simple configuration change in the Control Panel. You should only update the video driver with a driver directly downloaded from Nvidia or AMD.
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Message 1932929 - Posted: 30 Apr 2018, 20:32:28 UTC
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Just got v1803 from windows update. Installed with no problems and all seems OK.

btw it was on a newly installed windows 1709, and 1709 did install opencl which works OK.
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Message 1932966 - Posted: 1 May 2018, 8:32:19 UTC

I just got 1803. I said "no" to all Microsoft proposals. BOINC seems OK.
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Message 1933009 - Posted: 1 May 2018, 13:54:38 UTC

It would appear the correct response when dealing with M$ is "Just Say No"......

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Message 1933014 - Posted: 1 May 2018, 14:16:48 UTC - in response to Message 1933009.  

It would appear the correct response when dealing with M$ is "Just Say No"......

A couple of months ago, bought first computer (laptop) with Windows 10.

I initially believed that it would just involve, as with Windows 3.1, 98, XP and 7, a needed period of 'adjustment' before accepting it.

Now... I must agree with JE.
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Message 1933058 - Posted: 1 May 2018, 22:42:42 UTC

I just backed out of the new update (ver. 1803 - build 17134.1). It does not recognize my external USB Blu-Ray drive. Can't use it for anything, movies, music, etc.


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Message 1933059 - Posted: 1 May 2018, 22:52:38 UTC - in response to Message 1933058.  

I just backed out of the new update (ver. 1803 - build 17134.1). It does not recognize my external USB Blu-Ray drive. Can't use it for anything, movies, music, etc.

Did MS nuke its driver? Might be worth a refresh. Just a thought.
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Message 1933064 - Posted: 1 May 2018, 23:07:20 UTC - in response to Message 1933059.  

I just backed out of the new update (ver. 1803 - build 17134.1). It does not recognize my external USB Blu-Ray drive. Can't use it for anything, movies, music, etc.

Did MS nuke its driver? Might be worth a refresh. Just a thought.


I think it did. Upon the restore back to the previous version, the device was recognized and is working perfectly.


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Message 1933070 - Posted: 1 May 2018, 23:36:50 UTC - in response to Message 1933058.  

I just backed out of the new update (ver. 1803 - build 17134.1). It does not recognize my external USB Blu-Ray drive. Can't use it for anything, movies, music, etc.


I have an internal ASUS Blu-Ray drive, have updated and no problems with drive.
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Message 1933092 - Posted: 2 May 2018, 0:51:43 UTC

A person at the pub yesterday was quite interested in my old ex-Vista Celeron lappy and was very surprised on how well it performed with Linux Mint when I told them that their Win10 lappy has 6 times the performance than it, so another Win10 to Linux Mint conversion will happen here over the weekend some time.

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Message 1933215 - Posted: 2 May 2018, 14:08:57 UTC

ver. 1803 - build 17134.1 just done the dirty on me:-(

I had nvida 397.31 running and it reinstalled one of the useless crappy windows video drivers.

am now reinstalling proper drivers.
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Message 1933247 - Posted: 2 May 2018, 18:00:08 UTC - in response to Message 1933215.  

ver. 1803 - build 17134.1 just done the dirty on me:-(

I had nvida 397.31 running and it reinstalled one of the useless crappy windows video drivers.

am now reinstalling proper drivers.


Still having problems.

Have re-installed drivers several times.

Have now set NNT for Seti.

Have lost SoG and cannot seem to get it back - switched back to cuda 50 on GPU's, Trying to run SoG just gets Seti GPU tasks posponed.

Going to work now, Will try again in early morning.
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Message 1935009 - Posted: 11 May 2018, 5:25:20 UTC

Wanted that Windows 10 update but have an Intel SSD? Computer says no
The Windows 10 April 2018 Update is not proving to be the smoothest of installations for PCs containing certain Intel SSDs.

Systems with Intel 600p and Pro 6000p SSDs are experiencing crashes and users are finding themselves staring at a UEFI screen after rebooting. Microsoft has recommended afflicted users reinstall the previous version of Windows 10, 1709 (aka the Fall Creators Update). Redmond is also attempting to block the devices trying the update again.

The issue is an unspecified "known incompatibility" between the operating system and the SSDs, which were launched in 2016. Both the 600p and Pro 6000p SSDs share the same SM2260 chipset and feature a PCIe NVMe 3.0 x4 interface.


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Message 1935067 - Posted: 11 May 2018, 10:52:49 UTC

Greetings,

Something is NOT making any sense to me...

Does Micro$oft write drivers and send them to manufacturers for distribution? Here's why I ask:

I went into Device Manager to check my M.2 SSD driver yesterday. The M.2 is a Samsung 960 EVO 250GB running PCI-E 3 x4. I downloaded the driver FROM Samsung and installed it after building this PC. Device Manager says the driver is provided by Micro$oft. I went back to Samsung and found they had a newer driver so I downloaded it and installed it. I went back into Device Manager and lo and behold it reported the driver is again provided by Micro$oft. If I get it FROM Samsung, it should tell me the driver is PROVIDED BY Samsung.

Is Micro$oft THAT arrogant that they think they are better at drivers than the manufacturers are? Right!!! Just look at the crap that happens when they change our video drivers when Windows 10 is "automatically updated". It just happened to me a couple days ago.

Micro$oft, give me back MY full control of MY PC!

If anyone has a logical explanation for this, please tell me. :)

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Message 1935069 - Posted: 11 May 2018, 11:03:00 UTC - in response to Message 1935067.  

If anyone has a logical explanation for this, please tell me. :)

Are you looking in the right place?

From the Driver Installation Guide.
3. Confirming the installed driver
If you initiate the Windows Device Manager, a list of all the hardware present in your system is
shown. If “Samsung NVMe Controller” is shown below the “Storage controllers” as below, the
installation is successful.

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Message 1935118 - Posted: 11 May 2018, 13:20:44 UTC - in response to Message 1935069.  
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If anyone has a logical explanation for this, please tell me. :)

Are you looking in the right place?

From the Driver Installation Guide.
3. Confirming the installed driver
If you initiate the Windows Device Manager, a list of all the hardware present in your system is
shown. If “Samsung NVMe Controller” is shown below the “Storage controllers” as below, the
installation is successful.

Hi Grant,

Hmmm...

Ok, I had no idea I actually had to read instructions on "how to install a driver". ;) Probably shoulda huh? :)

(1) I did not install with administrator rights. (2) I didn't look in Storage Devices for the driver, I looked under Disk Drives.

The driver shows under Storage Devices and shows as provided by Samsung. The Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller driver is the same as that shown for my M.2 drive and my Western Digital HDD, same version number, under Disk Drives.

I will use the Samsung installer (with admin rights) to uninstall and re-install the driver to see what I get this time. What I see presently under Disk Drives is that the Microsoft controller is controlling my M.2 drive and not the Samsung controller. Hey, I could be completely spaced out on what I am seeing. Perhaps it is correct. Anyway, I'll report back what I find out.

Thanks Grant! :)

Siran

[edit] Here's what I have:



It just doesn't seem correct to me. The first 3 images are showing the version number of the Microsoft controller. The second image from the left, in my mind and opinion, should be the same as the Samsung controller version. What gives?

Siran
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Message 1935131 - Posted: 11 May 2018, 13:43:43 UTC
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I had problems getting the Samsung installer to work and update to the latest NVME driver on this rig under Win 7.
I finally found the actual NVME driver .inf files without the Samsung .exe installer and was able to update the driver in device manager without the dang Samsung program.
Here is a link to the drivers page, scroll down to the Samsung one.
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