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![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 31 Oct 99 Posts: 173 Credit: 509,430 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Oh HELL no! You mean to tell me I spent a month getting my Win10 laptop just the way I like it and now I have to start all over again? WTF Microsoft? So many changes, I don't even know where to start... And some whacky ones too... An Edge shortcut on my desktop? Booking & Amazon bookmarks reappearing in IE? Not to mention I'm probably the only person on the planet that actually uses Bing as my homepage (I like the pictures), and as a "thank you" I get my picture settings changed back to "tiny pic, for slow internet connections"!? Why? WHY?? And why am I even blaming MS? This sh*t is all on Google. Maybe even Apple (but I wouldn't know). They started it. MS you are late to a party no one wants to go to! I know this is old news for everybody, but I just HAD to drop by and vent! I feel a bit better now, thanks for listening :) Edit: And we have to do this every 6 months now? |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7381 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 ![]() ![]() |
Oh HELL no! Iwazaru, Since Micro$oft now "OWNS" every PC and device that Windows 10 is installed on, yes. We have to go through this crap every 6 months or so. Bing? I would say you are probably 99.9% correct. I'm sure there are others that think Bing is the cat's meow. Me, I don't and I ran the comparison to Google when Bing came out and did not like what I saw in Bing. Sorry guy. ;) Make sure you check you settings since Micro$oft has had a bad habit of changing them to what THEY want. They don't care what WE want just as long as they get what THEY want. I like Windows 10; it's a great improvement over what's come before. I just don't like Micro$oft's tactics. Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 1 Jun 01 Posts: 1282 Credit: 187,688,550 RAC: 182 ![]() ![]() |
I'm probably the only person on the planet that actually uses Bing as my homepage (I like the pictures), and as a "thank you" I get my picture settings changed back to "tiny pic, for slow internet connections"!? Why? WHY?? I also use Bing as my home page. Started when it first came out (beta testing it then) but I also love the daily picture. P.S. I did not suffer any of those format changes that you mentioned. P.P.S.S. When Bing was first introduced and you did a search, all you got were MS links!!!! ![]() SETI@home classic workunits 4,019 SETI@home classic CPU time 34,348 hours |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 31 Oct 99 Posts: 173 Credit: 509,430 RAC: 0 ![]() |
The Bing change was in IE. In Edge I have the "most visited" thumbnails as a "homepage". Amazon & Booking bookmarks I'm sure I can blame on some kind of HP bloatware. For now the things that bug me and need changing again are all my trackpad settings, remembering how to get rid of the language bar in the taskbar that decided to reappear and one that REALLY annoyed me: did Edge get rid of "view as icons" on the bookmarks bar? Someone please tell me I'm seeing "red" and just can't find the option... I had a ton of bookmarks there and now they exploded with descriptions/page titles. Completely unusable. Apparently I can right-click on them one-by-one and do it but why? Why? WHY!? :) |
![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 ![]() |
Pastime. With presets you ain't got enough of that, so they changed it so that you do. |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1858 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349 ![]() ![]() |
Just a quick reminder that updates such as the recent 1804 will probably replace your NVidia driver with one that lacks OpenCL. Thanks for all the aborted APs, M$. Got there before I could. Sigh. Also loving the problem between Windows, NVidia and Firefox that results in the video drivers crashing, Firefox locking up and BoincTasks crashing. Supposedly fixed by newer NVidia drivers, but that's not my experience. Still getting crashes with FF 60.0.1 and NVidia 397.64. ![]() ![]() |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13904 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 ![]() ![]() |
Still getting crashes with FF 60.0.1 and NVidia 397.64. Be worth disabling browser hardware acceleration till it's sorted. Luckily I've got WIn10 Pro. I just used the Group Policy Editor to disable any driver updates by Windows Update. Grant Darwin NT |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 ![]() |
Firefox locking up and BoincTasks crashing. Supposedly fixed by newer NVidia drivers, but that's not my experience. Still getting crashes with FF 60.0.1 and NVidia 397.64.FF has been totally unusable on my Surface Tablet since the 1st update this year. Forced me into Edge which I DESPISE! If you're a believer in Biblical prophecy it would appear M$ is the foretold 'Mark of the Beast'. The opening screen on Win10 should simply be text "Abandon All Hope, Ye Who Enter Here"......... ![]() "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7381 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 ![]() ![]() |
Firefox locking up and BoincTasks crashing. Supposedly fixed by newer NVidia drivers, but that's not my experience. Still getting crashes with FF 60.0.1 and NVidia 397.64.FF has been totally unusable on my Surface Tablet since the 1st update this year. Forced me into Edge which I DESPISE! HOLY CRAP!!! You would think that Micro$oft would make sure that their junk would run on their junk. Oh wait! They want the WORLD to run EDGE on the Internet. Yeah, disable any browser BUT Edge and force it down everyone's throats. Edge popped up on me when MY PC was upgraded to v1803 even though my DEFAULT browser is Firefox. I watched (read and watched) the suit against Micro$oft back in the 90's. Gate's really tried to skirt the issue when he was asked questions at his deposition. Internet Exploder was so tied to the Operating System that it would make Windows no longer usable if one tried to get rid of IE. It looks to me like they are trying that same stunt with Edge. "Use our browser or you cannot use Windows." I believe, from what I have read that it's the same with Cortana. Have a great day! :) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31174 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 ![]() ![]() |
It isn't just 10 ... last update on 7, M$ decided ports that had been opened to use a major financial program were closed. God Damn PITA to get them open again. |
Dr Who Fan ![]() Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3407 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 ![]() |
Uh, I think it is a little too late for some people to get this warning.... Installing the Windows 10 April 2018 Update could wipe your entire desktop User forums have been flooded with calls for help after recently updated PCs are rendered useless. |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1858 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349 ![]() ![]() |
Another 1804 issue reported, though very rare, is that the update may erroneously assign a hard drive letter to the hidden 450mb Win partition, causing it to mess up drive assignments and report a low disk space error on that partition. Solution is to remove the assignment of a drive letter to that partition, either via command line or from windows. Haven't seen this; just saw mention of it on Tom's Hardware. ![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 18 Aug 99 Posts: 1432 Credit: 110,967,840 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
Another 1804 issue reported, though very rare, is that the update may erroneously assign a hard drive letter to the hidden 450mb Win partition, causing it to mess up drive assignments and report a low disk space error on that partition. I ran across this problem, it showed as a virtual drive which would increase over time, and if I remember correctly I was able to delete it but I can't exactly remember how. I do remember that I had to go to the web to find the answer, and I think it had something to do with the registry. The only other problem that I had was with 3.0 USB. Until then, the 3.0 USB ports were backward compatible and I had an 2.0 external Blu-Ray drive using a 3.0 port, which became unusable after the update as the system would not recognize it. I did find a 3.0 external enclosure ( NextStar DX) that uses an existing internal Blu-Ray/DVD drive and outputs it via the 3.0/3.1 USB with the same performance as if it was still an internal drive. ![]() ![]() I don't buy computers, I build them!! |
![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 ![]() |
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![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 18 Aug 99 Posts: 1432 Credit: 110,967,840 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
Have been down for the last several days. Update to version 1803 has basically bricked my machine. ![]() ![]() I don't buy computers, I build them!! |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7381 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 ![]() ![]() |
Have been down for the last several days. Update to version 1803 has basically bricked my machine. Greetings Cliff, Early on they postponed the release of 1803 because a problem was discovered and needed fixin'. Perhaps the "fix" wasn't as thorough as M$ thought and is still causing problems. When mine was "upgraded" I noticed a few glitches in minor things afterwards. I no longer remember what they were. My only thought on a fix would be to get the ISO and use Rufus to create a bootable flash drive and do a clean install. Kinda sucks, I know. Been there done that. :( But then, what if something in your system is incompatible and Window$ 10 does not spot it and still bricks the PC. Hmmm... Can you get into... Crap, I can't remember what it is called. Dang memory! :( It's the bootup that allows a rollback to a previous working boot, something point. Dang, can't remember that either. :( Hopefully when this is read, someone with better memory can figure out what I was trying to say. Dang, I'm surprised I can still remember my name, Jane... Wait, that's not it. Is it George? Fred? Barney? ... ;) Anyway Cliff, I hope you can get your PC straightened out and back up. Siran [edit] Safe mode and Restore Point! I remembered them after about 5 minutes. :) [/edit] CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 18 Aug 99 Posts: 1432 Credit: 110,967,840 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
I'm somewhat back in business. The main problem now is that whatever I try I can't get the Intel Ethernet drivers to install properly, but I'm still trying. ![]() ![]() I don't buy computers, I build them!! |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 ![]() ![]() |
I finally got hit hit by the FCU Windows 10 update. Found out I no longer had the ability to do a System Restore Point nor Backup since those functions were now disabled and greyed out. Finally got around to starting BOINC after cleaning up after the update thinking that the update hadn't done anything to the Nvidia drivers since they were the same as before the update. Nope. Instant missing coprocessor messages in the Event Log as I madly scrambled for the Exit function in the Manager. So, thank you M$ for making me think you hadn't touched my drivers but in fact had done so. Reinstalled the 397.63 drivers and got back my OpenCL support. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours ![]() ![]() A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7381 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 ![]() ![]() |
Greetings, As much as I've learned to 'like' Windows 10, something HAS to be done about Micro$oft and their belief that THEY control all PCs in the world. As much as I used to dislike Windows 10, I cannot envision the governments of the world switching over to Windows 10. It would not be in their best interest to hand over control of their thousands of PCs to Micro$oft. As much as I've learned to 'like' Windows 10, why the hell would Micro$oft add a setting so as NOT to accept driver or other third party software if they're going to ignore the setting anyway? And why does the monthly update reset some settings? Micro$oft thinks they own OUR PCs!!! Last month we went over our allotment of bandwidth from our ISP. The ISP decided to waive the additional 50GB bandwidth block fee because it was our first time going over. I have been watching bandwidth usage and I cannot figure out why Micro$oft Sticky Notes HAS TO ACCESS THE INTERNET. WTF!?!? I have Cortana disabled and it is wasting bandwidth. I looked into it and it's actually the Windows search function, but it's labeled "Cortana". I seldom if ever use the Windows search function. Why the hell is Cortana wasting my bandwidth? Currently my acceptance of Windows 10 has stagnated. I have Windows 10 on this new PC for 2 reasons. 1.) Micro$oft demanded the chip manufacturers to NOT support any Micro$oft OS but Windows 10. It is a pain in the behind to try to install Win 7 on an 8th gen PC. 2.) Win 7 support ends in what? 6 months? So it's going the way of XP. Funny thing. I saw the OS that the V.A. Hospital is using, a few weeks ago, and it is NOT Windows 10. It actually looks like they're still using XP. I saw Win XP type screen savers running. Ok, rant over. Gotta take a nap. ;) Have a great day! :) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
kittyman ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51522 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 ![]() ![]() |
I will certainly be keeping my main daily driver rig on 7 as long as I am able to. No doubt about it. Meow! "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." ![]() |
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