The wind doesn't blow in Redmond Washington.................it sucks!

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

More "bad" news from micro$haft .... They just seem to want to p1$$ off their user base!

Windows 10 is making too many PCs obsolete

Windows 10 will be supported until Oct. 14, 2025 — unless your computer has a Clover Trail CPU. Then you’re out of luck.

Microsoft released its latest Windows 10 update earlier this year. The name, Creators Update,makes it sound bigger than it is; it’s really a minor step forward. But about 10 million Windows 10 customers have to face up to an unpleasant surprise: Their machines can’t update to Creators Update.

That’s how many poor sad sacks bought a Windows 8.x laptop in 2013 or 2014 with an Intel Clover Trail processor. Any of them who have tried to update their PC with the March 2017 Creators Update, version 1703, had no success and were presented with this message: “Windows 10 is no longer supported on this PC.” Boy, that must have been fun!

Not the end of the road for your three-year-old machine, though. I mean, you could always keep running the last version of Windows 10 on your PC. It wasn’t as if you went directly to a permanent blue screen of death. And anyway, Microsoft eventually backed off some, announcing that, while you can’t update those machines, you can still get security patches.

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More "bad" news from micro$haft .... They just seem to want to p1$$ off their user base!

Windows 10 is making too many PCs obsolete

Windows 10 will be supported until Oct. 14, 2025 — unless your computer has a Clover Trail CPU. Then you’re out of luck.

-SNIP-

Greetings,

Oops!



Seems Computer World needs to work on their website. :|

Have a great day! :)

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Oops!

Seems Computer World needs to work on their website. :|

Have a great day! :)

Yep! Chrome thinks it's malicious also:

This server could not prove that it is www.computerworld.com; its security certificate is from *.e.ssl.fastly.net. This may be caused by a misconfiguration or an attacker intercepting your connection.

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Now M$ must of had a (slight) change of heart on MSPaint...:
https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/25/16024356/microsoft-paint-windows-store-app

Microsoft Paint isn't dead yet, will live in the Windows Store for free ...
MSPaint will still be part of Windows 10, but Microsoft will be promoting and encouraging end users to opt for Paint 3D instead.

... As Paint hasn’t been marked as removed in Microsoft’s support articles, this means it will act like Internet Explorer in the upcoming Windows 10 Fall Creators Update. MSPaint will still be part of Windows 10, but Microsoft will be promoting and encouraging end users to opt for Paint 3D instead. Microsoft hasn’t provided a timeline for when Paint will be available in the Windows Store, but its appearance in the Store will likely trigger the removal part of Microsoft’s support for the app within Windows 10 in the future. Don’t worry just yet, you can continue making crappy artwork just like everyone has with Paint for the past 31 years.

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... Now M$ must of had a (slight) change of heart on MSPaint...:
https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/25/16024356/microsoft-paint-windows-store-app

Microsoft Paint isn't dead yet, will live in the Windows Store for free ...
MSPaint will still be part of Windows 10, but Microsoft will be promoting and encouraging end users to opt for Paint 3D instead.

... As Paint hasn’t been marked as removed in Microsoft’s support articles, this means it will act like Internet Explorer in the upcoming Windows 10 Fall Creators Update. MSPaint will still be part of Windows 10, but Microsoft will be promoting and encouraging end users to opt for Paint 3D instead. Microsoft hasn’t provided a timeline for when Paint will be available in the Windows Store, but its appearance in the Store will likely trigger the removal part of Microsoft’s support for the app within Windows 10 in the future. Don’t worry just yet, you can continue making crappy artwork just like everyone has with Paint for the past 31 years.

Or...

All a game of some very clever coercive Marketing that has bagged some free headlines for the last few days to announce a trivial update and to 'encourage' users to 'enjoy' the 'experience' of creating an account and logging into the "Windows Store Experience" all just to be able to continue using their own systems?...

You WILL be dragged (screaming or blinded or otherwise) into the 'Microsoft World'(tm) of the 'Microsoft Cloud'(tm) and the 'Microsoft Store'(tm)...

Good luck?...


Or... Is there any other way?

IT is what we allow it to be...
Martin

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Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
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New Windows 10 Changes Revealed

The next Windows 10 update will make shutting down or restarting a computer a smoother process. It will also make it slightly easier to switch back and forth between a phone and a computer.

The changes are in the latest test build of the Windows 10 "Fall Creator's Update." That's the next twice-yearly update to Windows 10 that adds new features rather than simply fixing security and performance bugs.

Normally in Windows, if you restart the computer (or it's automatically restarted by an update), you need to re-enter your login details. The same thing happens if you shut down the computer and then boot it up later.

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New Windows 10 Changes Revealed

The next Windows 10 update will make shutting down or restarting a computer a smoother process. It will also make it slightly easier to switch back and forth between a phone and a computer.

The changes are in the latest test build of the Windows 10 "Fall Creator's Update." That's the next twice-yearly update to Windows 10 that adds new features rather than simply fixing security and performance bugs.

Normally in Windows, if you restart the computer (or it's automatically restarted by an update), you need to re-enter your login details. The same thing happens if you shut down the computer and then boot it up later.

Greetings,

Yet another reason to stay away from Winblows 10. More reduction in security. Bah!

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

After the Creators Update my Windows 10 Home edition PC is able to crunch only SETI@home and SETI Beta tasks, both on CPU and GPU ( a GTX 1050 Ti). All else fails. Bu I have two older Linux boxes. One runs the SixTrack tasks of LHC@home, the other the Einstein@home tasks, both CPU and GPU on a GTX 750 Ti. Its driver has been updated by OpenSuSE and is now 384.59.
Tullio

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Yet another reason to stay away from Winblows 10. More reduction in security. Bah!

Then don't select that option.
Simple.

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Grant
Darwin NT

Normally in windows you already have the power to setup auto login and the same with Linux. You just have do some reading.

Yet another reason to stay away from Winblows 10. More reduction in security. Bah!

Then don't select that option.
Simple.

Hi Grant,

The option I have selected is to stick with Win7 Pro 64bit. If this PC dies before I do, I will build another one and Win7 will be my OS of choice, only because I have stuff that only runs best ON Windows. Too complicated to get running on Linux. ;)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

The option I have selected is to stick with Win7 Pro 64bit. If this PC dies before I do, I will build another one and Win7 will be my OS of choice, only because I have stuff that only runs best ON Windows. Too complicated to get running on Linux. ;)

My only issues have been stopping Win10 from updating video drivers.

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Grant
Darwin NT

The option I have selected is to stick with Win7 Pro 64bit. If this PC dies before I do, I will build another one and Win7 will be my OS of choice, only because I have stuff that only runs best ON Windows. Too complicated to get running on Linux. ;)

My only issues have been stopping Win10 from updating video drivers.

Hi Grant,

Yeah, it seems a lot of people have that problem. Microsoft just wants everything THEIR WAY, and screw what the consumer wants. ;)

They're (Microsoft) is trying to lay claim to ALL devices running Winblows 10.

My room mate was getting BSOD after BSOD and I figured it was related to that creators upgrade thingy. Good thing I read this forum a lot. :) I just rolled it back to an earlier Win 10 and no more BSODs.

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Tech Republic gives FIVE reasons AGAINST and FIVE reasons FOR using Windows 10 ins separate articles:
Windows 10: Five reasons to avoid Microsoft's flagship OS

With Microsoft's sometimes capricious and occasionally obnoxious treatment of Windows users, here's why you might want to give Windows 10 a miss.

Windows 10: Five reasons to stick with Microsoft's flagship OS

As Microsoft's flagship OS celebrates its two year anniversary, here's what those running Windows 10 have got to look forward to.

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I have 2 brand new Windows 7 Pro install discs I purchased a couple years ago that I'm saving for the next 2 machines I build when I get some extra cash. After that I hope enough people will be unhappy with M$ and switch to Linux based OS spurring releases of commonly used productivity software (ie Quicken/Quickbooks).

I currently have a HP Laptop that I converted to Ubuntu and I'm slowly learning(re-learning as I've had prior limited Unix command line experience). Just trying to teach a real old dog new tricks.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

I have 2 brand new Windows 7 Pro install discs I purchased a couple years ago that I'm saving for the next 2 machines I build when I get some extra cash. After that I hope enough people will be unhappy with M$ and switch to Linux based OS spurring releases of commonly used productivity software (ie Quicken/Quickbooks).

I currently have a HP Laptop that I converted to Ubuntu and I'm slowly learning(re-learning as I've had prior limited Unix command line experience). Just trying to teach a real old dog new tricks.

I'd be careful on your builds. M$ has reneged on their promise that newer CPUs will be allowed to support Win 7. When I built my i7/7700K that my wife got me for Father's Day, I attempted to do a clean install Win 7 Ultimate (x64) on a different physical drive and it was rejected. Somewhere in the very beginning of the process something on the chip told Windows that it was not supported and it aborted after I clicked "OK". I then successfully started Windows using the original system drive. Because the free upgrade of Win 10 Pro (x64) determined that the system was a new machine (CPU, mobo, mem sticks) I had to reactive the OS. Ran into problems again, as the reactivation was not accepted, even with numerous calls to M$ to resolve the problem. I ended up buying an install USB stick ($199 + tax USD), M$ doesn't use install disks any more, except for system builder versions, and was able to install and active my Win 10 Pro (x64). so be very careful that your new builds are at least below Kaby Lake.

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I don't buy computers, I build them!!

I have 2 brand new Windows 7 Pro install discs I purchased a couple years ago that I'm saving for the next 2 machines I build when I get some extra cash. After that I hope enough people will be unhappy with M$ and switch to Linux based OS spurring releases of commonly used productivity software (ie Quicken/Quickbooks).

I currently have a HP Laptop that I converted to Ubuntu and I'm slowly learning(re-learning as I've had prior limited Unix command line experience). Just trying to teach a real old dog new tricks.

I'd be careful on your builds. M$ has reneged on their promise that newer CPUs will be allowed to support Win 7. When I built my i7/7700K that my wife got me for Father's Day, I attempted to do a clean install Win 7 Ultimate (x64) on a different physical drive and it was rejected. Somewhere in the very beginning of the process something on the chip told Windows that it was not supported and it aborted after I clicked "OK". I then successfully started Windows using the original system drive. Because the free upgrade of Win 10 Pro (x64) determined that the system was a new machine (CPU, mobo, mem sticks) I had to reactive the OS. Ran into problems again, as the reactivation was not accepted, even with numerous calls to M$ to resolve the problem. I ended up buying an install USB stick ($199 + tax USD), M$ doesn't use install disks any more, except for system builder versions, and was able to install and active my Win 10 Pro (x64). so be very careful that your new builds are at least below Kaby Lake.

Hi Cliff,

I remembered this when I read your post here. There is a way to circumvent the block Micro$oft put in place to block Win 7 and 8.1 on Kaby Lake and Ryzen.

I hope that this is not a moot point. ;)

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

I`m running win 7 on a Ryzen and its working perfectly.

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With each crime and every kindness we birth our future.

I remembered this when I read your post here. There is a way to circumvent the block Micro$oft put in place to block Win 7 and 8.1 on Kaby Lake and Ryzen.

I hope that this is not a moot point. ;)

Have a great day! :)

Siran

But I think that only works if you already have Win 7 installed on your machine.

I`m running win 7 on a Ryzen and its working perfectly

Lucky you, maybe at this point in time it's only affecting Intel processors.

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I don't buy computers, I build them!!

I remembered this when I read your post here. There is a way to circumvent the block Micro$oft put in place to block Win 7 and 8.1 on Kaby Lake and Ryzen.

I hope that this is not a moot point. ;)

Have a great day! :)

Siran

But I think that only works if you already have Win 7 installed on your machine.

I`m running win 7 on a Ryzen and its working perfectly

Lucky you, maybe at this point in time it's only affecting Intel processors.

So long your motherboard comes with win 7 drivers it should work on Intels too.
I found a few instructions during my web search.
You need to create a boot USB stick of the win 7 install disc with USB 3 drivers included.
I used universal USB installer.

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With each crime and every kindness we birth our future.