-tt 1500 -hp -period_iterations_num 1 -high_perf -sbs 1024 -spike_fft_thresh 4096 -tune 1 64 1 4 -oclfft_tune_gr 256 -oclfft_tune_lr 16 -oclfft_tune_wg 256 -oclfft_tune_ls 512 -oclfft_tune_bn 64 -oclfft_tune_cw 64

Actually have it set for that, except -tt 700 and no -hp, based on info from a tuning message a while back. This box is single 750ti on a C2Q, my temporary daily driver until I can get my 2nd Z600 back up.

Have you just set those values, as your current Valid and Pending results show the default values being used?

Also your system is only showing 1 Processor, so only GPU crunching will be possible unless it shares that core with a CPU WU. Will really blow out the crunching times.

Yeah, just set that then had to back off due to restarts.
System shows 1 CPU as three cores reserved for GPUs at this point. (cc_config <ncpus>1</ncpus>)

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System shows 1 CPU as three cores reserved for GPUs at this point. (cc_config <ncpus>1</ncpus>)

Ah, never seen it that way before. It makes it look like those threads aren't available to BOINC at all.

I've always gone with app_config.xml
Reserves a thread for each GPU WU, when not used by the GPU it's available for CPU crunching again.

<app_config>
 <app>
  <name>setiathome_v8</name>
  <gpu_versions>
  <gpu_usage>1.00</gpu_usage>
  <cpu_usage>1.00</cpu_usage>
  </gpu_versions>
 </app>
 <app>
  <name>astropulse_v7</name>
  <gpu_versions>
  <gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
  <cpu_usage>1.0</cpu_usage>
  </gpu_versions>
 </app>
</app_config>

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Grant
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System shows 1 CPU as three cores reserved for GPUs at this point. (cc_config <ncpus>1</ncpus>)

Ah, never seen it that way before. It makes it look like those threads aren't available to BOINC at all.

I've always gone with app_config.xml
Reserves a thread for each GPU WU, when not used by the GPU it's available for CPU crunching again.

Nice thing about doing it in cc_config is that it can be done on the fly, with changes being immediate and not requiring a shutdown/restart, unlike app_config changes. If you use BoincTasks, the change can be made there for each monitored machine. Just click a CPU task on the machine to be changed, then select Extra>Edit Config file. When you Apply, the client rereads on the fly and the change is immediate. Perhaps not as flexible as doing it in app-config, but still Nice.

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..... (cc_config <ncpus>1</ncpus>)

I did that too on my AMD 4200 so that it will only run 1 CPU task - when it thinks the CPU is in high priority, it will take both cores and choke the system. It can't do that if it only has access to 1 CPU.

Then just don't reserve a core, since one is free all ready.

Nice thing about doing it in cc_config is that it can be done on the fly, with changes being immediate and not requiring a shutdown/restart, unlike app_config changes.

For app_config, all you need to do is Options, read config files.

Your run times are still longer than i would have expected- from memory my C2D with the GTX 750Tis was doing WUs in around17min with SoG.
Are you crunching any CPU WUs at the moment?
What is the CPU utilisation in Task Manager?
The way I read that ncpus setting is that it allows you to increase the number of WUs that can run on a single CPU core, not for reserving cores for other uses.

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Grant
Darwin NT

Nice thing about doing it in cc_config is that it can be done on the fly, with changes being immediate and not requiring a shutdown/restart, unlike app_config changes.

For app_config, all you need to do is Options, read config files.

Your run times are still longer than i would have expected- from memory my C2D with the GTX 750Tis was doing WUs in around17min with SoG.
Are you crunching any CPU WUs at the moment?
What is the CPU utilisation in Task Manager?
The way I read that ncpus setting is that it allows you to increase the number of WUs that can run on a single CPU core, not for reserving cores for other uses.

Yeah, I'm taking a little different approach to sneaking up on this, as I did before when doing Beta.
I started out Cuda50 running 3 tasks/GPU, as I have forever. Then ran 3/gpu Sog for a bit (hence the long run times). Now down to 2 tasks/gpu and have 1 AP running on the CPU I'm trying to get pushed through. The 2 GPU tasks running in parallel, 1 is with default tuning, the second is with your suggested tuning. Watching to see how that performs, then see how the box does with 2/ tuned, watch for restarts, and will later back that down to 1/ for comparison.
When I did this last fall, I think I actually came out a bit ahead at 2/. The other thing I do is watch CPU and GPU core and memory controller usage, power and temps. SoG CPU% are in the low 90s (untuned job) and high 90s (tuned job). somewhat more mouse/kb lag than I'll want to tolerate.

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I started out Cuda50 running 3 tasks/GPU, as I have forever. Then ran 3/gpu Sog for a bit (hence the long run times). Now down to 2 tasks/gpu and have 1 AP running on the CPU I'm trying to get pushed through. The 2 GPU tasks running in parallel, 1 is with default tuning, the second is with your suggested tuning. Watching to see how that performs, then see how the box does with 2/ tuned, watch for restarts, and will later back that down to 1/ for comparison.

With low power GPUs, the only advantage of running 2 at a time is that the 15-20sec startup time where the GPU isn't crunching yet is offset by the other WU that is being processed. Overall, the GPU output is about the same as 1 at a time, except you loose the output from that second CPU core that's required. So the end result is (slightly) less WUs per hour. The big advantage of 1 at t time is that you never get a mix of WUs on the 1 GPU- ie 1 GBT and 1 Arecibo. When that happens, the Arecibo crunching time can be as much as triple it's usual run time.

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Grant
Darwin NT

With low power GPUs, the only advantage of running 2 at a time is that the 15-20sec startup time where the GPU isn't crunching yet is offset by the other WU that is being processed. Overall, the GPU output is about the same as 1 at a time, except you loose the output from that second CPU core that's required. So the end result is (slightly) less WUs per hour. The big advantage of 1 at t time is that you never get a mix of WUs on the 1 GPU- ie 1 GBT and 1 Arecibo. When that happens, the Arecibo crunching time can be as much as triple it's usual run time.

Interesting question will be what it looks like with a mix of GPUs, as most of my boxes run 1-980 and 2-750tis, due to power/heat issues. Not aware of a way to tune each GPU individually ...

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I ran into a major problem when my machine went south on 14 June. If you downloaded the FREE Win 10 pro and you have to do a major hardware upgrade, YOU CANNOT ACTIVE under the same product key as you could with Win 7. I went through multiple installs with an i7/950 & an i7/440K using the initial key. If you try you will get a NOT VALID WINDOWS message, so I had to bite the bullet and buy a USB install stick. It seems that retail OEM install DVDs that are the only ones that are available now days as they stopped with the install DVDs.

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I don't buy computers, I build them!!

I ran into a major problem when my machine went south on 14 June. If you downloaded the FREE Win 10 pro and you have to do a major hardware upgrade, YOU CANNOT ACTIVE under the same product key as you could with Win 7. I went through multiple installs with an i7/950 & an i7/440K using the initial key. If you try you will get a NOT VALID WINDOWS message, so I had to bite the bullet and buy a USB install stick. It seems that retail OEM install DVDs that are the only ones that are available now days as they stopped with the install DVDs.

M$ want you to download the iso and pay for the product directly from them these days. ;-)

Cheers.

I ran into a major problem when my machine went south on 14 June. If you downloaded the FREE Win 10 pro and you have to do a major hardware upgrade, YOU CANNOT ACTIVE under the same product key as you could with Win 7. I went through multiple installs with an i7/950 & an i7/440K using the initial key. If you try you will get a NOT VALID WINDOWS message, so I had to bite the bullet and buy a USB install stick. It seems that retail OEM install DVDs that are the only ones that are available now days as they stopped with the install DVDs.

M$ want you to download the iso and pay for the product directly from them these days. ;-)

Cheers.

Go clean and Linux!

Works very well... No need for the incessent upgrade jingoism!!

Happy carefree crunchin',
Martin

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I am getting regular kernel security upgrades from OpenSuSE, after which I have two reboot my two Linux boxes. But once they sent me a whole new OS, Tumbleweed, which resulted in canceling the contains of a USB cartridge in which I had saved personal data. I am now struggling with the Creators Update on my Windows 10 PC, which goes on rebooting. I have run all UEFI tests provided by HP on a Pavilion 152-ea, which is immaculate from a HW point of view. It runs SETI@home GPU tasks on its GTX 1050 Ti board.
Tullio

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Really, the 'next' Windows 10 gets to be yet again more secure (or less holey)???...


Microsoft: We'll beef up security in Windows 10 Creators Edition Fall Update

EMETs? I've had a few

The next big update to Windows 10 Creators Edition is out in the Fall – and Redmond is hyping up its security chops...


Go for it?
Martin

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If you are a Skyper: Damned if you do and damned if you don't:


Make sure your Skype is up to date because FYI there's a nasty hole in it

Nothing to see here, says Microsoft, just more crappy code

Infosec researchers have discovered a nasty and exploitable security vulnerability in older versions of Skype on Windows...

... on Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 10. In Skype v7.37 the vulnerability is patched...


Microsoft recommends you ignore Microsoft-recommended update

... waves at customers saying 'don't break Skype'

Earlier this month, Microsoft gave the world .NET Framework 4.7 and urged users to install it for the usual reasons: more fun bits to play with and security improvements.

But two days later the company urged Exchange users not to install it ASAP...


Microsoft says Skype outages are over – a few hours too early

Global Skype outages spill over onto a second day...



Regardless of who or how, this sort of thing really badly just so lowers everyones' expectations that the whole of the IT world is regardless just branded by all users as a total fail.

Reboot yet again and try again? How many hours have we all suffered with that one?!


IT is what we allow it to be...
Martin

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Just noticed M$ is still trying to push KB2976978 in the updates............I don't think so.

The only device I have running Win10 is my Tablet and I hate it.............much prefer 7 or 8.1 and will live in those environments until they pry my cold dead fingers from the keyboard.............." : |

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Interesting question will be what it looks like with a mix of GPUs, as most of my boxes run 1-980 and 2-750tis, due to power/heat issues. Not aware of a way to tune each GPU individually ...

You are supposed to be able to do that tuning individually in both stock seti and in Lunatics. Its in the mb*sog readme. Search for "For device-specific settings in multi-GPU systems".

I have not been able to convince myself that it works either in stock seti or when you add it to the "app_info.xml" file in Lunatics Distro. Had a thread going here.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=81597

In theory, the stock seti setup isn't "tricky" but I couldn't convince myself I had gotten it working. Then the need to run the Gtx 1060 / Gtx 750 Ti went away so I no longer even have a motivation to try.

Integrating it into the Lunatic's app_info.xml file is tricky and detailed oriented. It helps a lot if you actually understand the xml code forward and backwards.

I hope someone can both get it to work and make a convincing report of it working.

I wish you well.

Tom

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A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association).

Interesting question will be what it looks like with a mix of GPUs, as most of my boxes run 1-980 and 2-750tis, due to power/heat issues. Not aware of a way to tune each GPU individually ...

You are supposed to be able to do that tuning individually in both stock seti and in Lunatics. Its in the mb*sog readme. Search for "For device-specific settings in multi-GPU systems".
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I wish you well.

Tom

Suppose I should get after that at some point. In a bit of a drought here, due to being down from 5 crunchers to 2 due to a combination of excess summer power charges and hardware issues, and not really motivated at the moment. Last few times I've touched anything has been a disaster, so I'm waiting for the bad karma to dissipate :)

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And if there weren't enough reasons to love Win 10, here's yet another one:

Microsoft cuts off Windows 10 support early for some PCs

Get out the flyswatter, MS, and just keep smashing those bugs... *rolleyes*

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And if there weren't enough reasons to love Win 10, here's yet another one:

Microsoft cuts off Windows 10 support early for some PCs

Also cut for those few on all but the latest even fewer Windows Phones:

Got a Windows Phone 8 mobe? It's now officially obsolete. Here's why...
Microsoft pulls the plug on support for dedicated smartphone OS...

... this is by no means the end of Microsoft's support for mobile phones. Microsoft continues to sell three different models of Lumia phones as branded devices, and Redmond has maintained that Windows 10 Mobile will be part of the planned "OneCore" platform strategy going forward.


Note the "Windows 10 Mobile will be part of the planned "OneCore" platform strategy going forward"... Be ready for change?...



A curious radical change and a non-change are:

Ubuntu Linux now on Windows Store
Microsoft finally confirmed that Hell has indeed frozen over – Ubuntu is at long last available from the Windows Store...

Get out the flyswatter, MS, and just keep smashing those bugs... *rolleyes*

Yep. We have Microsoft as usual... Would you trust your own eyes to such fell strangeness?...

It's July 2017 – and your expensive HoloLens can be pwned over Wi-Fi
Patch Tuesday Microsoft's HoloLens may only be in the hands of developers, but that hasn't stopped researchers from finding major security holes in the augmented reality headset.

Critical fixes for HoloLens were among the 57 CVE-listed flaws Redmond had to address in this month's edition of Patch Tuesday. Of the 57 bugs blasted in various Microsoft products, 19 are listed as critical and 24 could potentially allow for remote code execution. Four vulnerabilities were disclosed publicly before today's patches landed, but none are being targeted in the wild at the moment...



What a strange mix!

IT is what we make it...
Martin

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Microsoft Paint and other apps are going to be discontinued by Windows 10’s Next Update

Microsoft is dropping various features and functionalities from its new build. In preparation for the release of the Fall Creators Update, Microsoft has published the full list of stories that will be removed or depreciated from the new build.

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