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Message 1811577 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 23:13:48 UTC

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Message 1811668 - Posted: 23 Aug 2016, 2:44:58 UTC - in response to Message 1811577.  

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Message 1811677 - Posted: 23 Aug 2016, 2:54:10 UTC

I _so_ have to figure out what I am going to do when Win 7 gets XP'ed...

*sigh*

At least I have a couple more years to get it all figured out.

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Message 1811712 - Posted: 23 Aug 2016, 4:30:58 UTC - in response to Message 1811577.  

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Interesting.
I have 10 cams running into my security software on this box and almost all is well. Only bit of strangeness between 7 and 10 is that I can no longer see network drives from the camera software, only local ones, so I had to move the recording drive to the local machine.
Outside of that, only thing I've had to do was shut down all the bloatware that came enabled on 10.
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Message 1811724 - Posted: 23 Aug 2016, 5:24:10 UTC - in response to Message 1811677.  

I _so_ have to figure out what I am going to do when Win 7 gets XP'ed...

*sigh*

At least I have a couple more years to get it all figured out.

Well, since your system(s) seem to be Intel; you could turn them into MACs like I did with Andromeda. :-)

Since you have actual, REAL Xeon processors; I'd suspect that the Hackintosh process would be easier than what I went through with my QX9650. According to the Hackintosh community, (and as I've stated here several times), ANY Intel PC can be turned into a Hackintosh.

Anyway, your choice... Whatever you decide, I wish you luck, and I wish you well. :-)


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Message 1811815 - Posted: 23 Aug 2016, 11:43:52 UTC - in response to Message 1811577.  

Greetings,

With all the spying crap in Window$ 10, and so many people out there that don't know about it or don't care about it, what's to say that Micro$oft and partners won't turn on cameras to watch what people are doing?

I'd hate to be sitting at my PC wearing a camo shirt and camo hat with guns hanging on wall racks and have them turn my camera on (I don't have one attached, by the way) and label me a terrorist and have agents knocking at my door or even breaking it down to arrest me for said label. That would suck!

In this day and age, ANYTHING is possible! :|

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Message 1811870 - Posted: 23 Aug 2016, 14:41:39 UTC - in response to Message 1811677.  
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I _so_ have to figure out what I am going to do when Win 7 gets XP'ed...

*sigh*

At least I have a couple more years to get it all figured out.

If the rig(s) is a dedicated cruncher:
    OPTION A

      Leave it be.  Use a firewall to allow only the urls & ports required by BOINC.


    OPTION B

      Set aside some cores & RAM, install a VM, try Linux, BSD, or ...

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Message 1815452 - Posted: 6 Sep 2016, 22:28:15 UTC

Well M$S has finally done it and has stopped all win 7 updates after SP1 via Windows Update. Due to whatever, I had to completely refresh my system over the weekend and was able to get updates up to and including SP1. After that WU just sits there and spins its wheels for hours and hours and days and day.......... I thought that the new monthly rollup wasn't supposed to happen until October.


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Message 1815461 - Posted: 6 Sep 2016, 23:07:17 UTC - in response to Message 1815452.  

I ran into a similar problem several weeks ago after installing Win7 SP1 on a machine from scratch. It seems the older Windows Update Client that installs with SP1 doesn't play well with whatever Microsoft currently has on the server side. However, if you manually download and install one of the newer updates to the WU Client (preferably one from this year), that should then give you cleaner access to all the other updates since SP1. I think I grabbed one from about April or so, but I don't remember for sure.
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Message 1815480 - Posted: 7 Sep 2016, 1:16:06 UTC - in response to Message 1815452.  

I thought that the new monthly rollup wasn't supposed to happen until October.

Isn't having your wheel spin a rollup?
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Message 1815511 - Posted: 7 Sep 2016, 6:34:04 UTC

I think the one you need is https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/kb/3102810. It's in Cosmic_Ocean's list of patches to avoid in case of Windows 10 back-doors, but I've installed it on a couple of machines which were spinning their wheels badly when searching for updates (wasting a lot of CPU cycles), and it didn't have any visible side-effects.

I also had to switch temporarily to Internet Explorer to get the darn thing to download.
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Message 1815670 - Posted: 8 Sep 2016, 2:48:52 UTC

I wish I could say yes or no to 10. Somewhere in my cruncher 10 has a problem loading and aborts. It has tried to update to 10 several times without success. So I am still with 7 for now.

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Message 1815671 - Posted: 8 Sep 2016, 3:01:49 UTC - in response to Message 1815670.  

I wish I could say yes or no to 10. Somewhere in my cruncher 10 has a problem loading and aborts. It has tried to update to 10 several times without success. So I am still with 7 for now.

I had this on one box. Any particular error message?
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Message 1816971 - Posted: 13 Sep 2016, 23:38:06 UTC

It's format is convenient.  Maybe others will find it so, as well.

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Message 1817069 - Posted: 14 Sep 2016, 8:29:43 UTC
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I am a Windows novice, since I mostly use Linux. I bought a PC from HP with Windows 8.1, then updated to Windows 10 1511. Since then I get regular updates. But this Bulletin speaks of Windows 10 1607. Which is the difference? Maybe some Windows user can instruct me. I mostly run CERN programs on it with Virtual Box but also SETI@home and Einstein@home GPU tasks on its Geforce GTX 750 board.
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Message 1817083 - Posted: 14 Sep 2016, 10:51:35 UTC - in response to Message 1817069.  

I am a Windows novice, since I mostly use Linux. I bought a PC from HP with Windows 8.1, then updated to Windows 10 1511. Since then I get regular updates. But this Bulletin speaks of Windows 10 1607. Which is the difference? Maybe some Windows user can instruct me. I mostly run CERN programs on it with Virtual Box but also SETI@home and Einstein@home GPU tasks on its Geforce GTX 750 board.
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Well, as windows sends updates, the load version number will change. Typically not something you need to worry much about. For example, most of my boxes here are Version 10.0.10586. However, I just got a major update on one box (perhaps the infamous anniversary update?) which after 20 minutes installing updates now shows as Version 10.0.14393. Presumably, tucked into that version number somewhere is that 1) it's windoze 10.0, 2) the version is Pro x64, and 3) what are the various presently loaded.
Basically, it all doesn't mean much to you ...
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Message 1817219 - Posted: 14 Sep 2016, 23:46:24 UTC
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>  KB3189866 stuck at 45% or 95%? Install it manually instead

>  Windows 10 Build 14926 fixes removed apps reinstallation issue
     Excerpts:
    "If you have removed apps before on Windows 10, you may have noticed that some of them come back after you perform an upgrade of the operating system, for instance to August's Anniversary Update."

    "... this won't be the case anymore once Build 14926 is installed on the device.  Microsoft notes that this is true for all apps Windows 10 ships with."

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Message 1818325 - Posted: 20 Sep 2016, 0:57:56 UTC

Not sure I can blame this on Win10, but if not, who?
Just noticed one of my crunchers kicking all AP tasks to the curb. The logs complained of missing OpenCL support. Discovered that this machine is all of a sudden running NVidia 369.09, and apparently without OpenCL support.
Now, I definitely did not install this, as I have a specific process for installing drivers, which includes 1 download to a network drive followed by installation across the network to all effected machines.
Reinstalled the 64bit Win10 368.81 from my network drive, and the machine is now crunching properly. Just a heads-up.
Would be interested to know if anyone else has experienced unwanted driver updates of non-MS software. I definitely did NOT invoke this ...
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Message 1818341 - Posted: 20 Sep 2016, 2:01:51 UTC
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Yep, definitely Win 10.
Here's how to stop this:
Control Panel
 --> System 
     --> Advanced System settings
         --> Hardware
             --> Device Installations Settings
                 --> Automatically download Manufacturer ...
                     --> NO

Oh, by the way, check Win 7 as well. Found the same issue there. Not sure if this was part of the latest "Security Update" that MS just pushed? Don't remember this being on 7 before ...
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