What I find even more interesting though is when I went to that improvements and fixes link, and expanded the July rollup... it mentioned absolutely nothing about the new Update Client that is contained within, via superseding the June 2016 rollup.

I've gotten the impression over the last several months that Microsoft's definition of "rollup" is somewhat flexible. Sometimes, it seems to mean a cumulative update that includes everything that came before, such as that "convenience rollup" for those installing Win7 SP1 on a new machine. That usage generally makes sense to me (or at least it would if that "rollup" was actually complete and convenient, which I recently found it not to be). Then there are these monthly rollups which seem to contain little more than one or two patches and which are explicitly described by M$ as not cumulative. Some sort of consistency would be nice.

I just checked with WSUS again since the last time I checked it was... over the weekend, I think.

Tuesday's batch that showed up is a bunch of variations of 7/8.1 upgrade to 10 pro/education/enterprise 1607 (KB 3012973), Update for Windows 7 (KB 3177723) and Update for Windows 7 (KB 3179573).

3177723 is a useless one.. Egypt cancelled DST. 3179573 is the August 2016 rollup that has next to no information about what it actually does, other than what you can discern from the "improvements and fixes" link. But last week, there were about 8 security updates that showed up in WSUS, so I'm thinking all of those are in the rollup, as well as July and June's rollup.

I know what you mean about inconsistency.. is it simply just all of this current month's updates rolled up into one, or is it all of this month's, combined with the previous one that did the same thing, combined with the previous one that did the same thing? I know their end-goal is to have one single update that encompasses every single update from the release of SP1 to present, which basically makes it an ever-evolving service pack.

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Linux laptop:
record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up)

I'd like to point out that just because you don't use anything in an Egyptian time-zone doesn't mean it's useless...

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Soli Deo Gloria

I'd like to point out that just because you don't use anything in an Egyptian time-zone doesn't mean it's useless...

Okay yes, it IS useful to some people, but I don't have any plans to bring my desktop machine to Egypt anytime soon, nor do I know anyone there, so I don't need to set my timezone to that for any reason. It's just like I don't need the update for the new timezone rules for North Korea, either.

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Linux laptop:
record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up)

My computers just went into no more updates mode.

I installed Sophos to handle my AV and malware needs.

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My computers just went into no more updates mode.

I installed Sophos to handle my AV and malware needs.

Most of my machines never do updates.
http://i.imgur.com/TH5OjMS.png
But I did have to install an update on my HTPC once to get something to work.
http://i.imgur.com/WJ9Ggf8.png

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I'd like to point out that just because you don't use anything in an Egyptian time-zone doesn't mean it's useless...

Okay yes, it IS useful to some people, but I don't have any plans to bring my desktop machine to Egypt anytime soon, nor do I know anyone there, so I don't need to set my timezone to that for any reason. It's just like I don't need the update for the new timezone rules for North Korea, either.

Until you get a SPAM from one of those places and the oddball time causes your e-mail client to ....

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Handcrafted with pride in Redmond:

The Windows 10 anniversary update has stopped millions of webcams from working

Handcrafted with pride in Redmond:

The Windows 10 anniversary update has stopped millions of webcams from working

I guess they have something against webcam girls ... ;)

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I _so_ have to figure out what I am going to do when Win 7 gets XP'ed...

*sigh*

At least I have a couple more years to get it all figured out.

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Handcrafted with pride in Redmond:

The Windows 10 anniversary update has stopped millions of webcams from working

Interesting.
I have 10 cams running into my security software on this box and almost all is well. Only bit of strangeness between 7 and 10 is that I can no longer see network drives from the camera software, only local ones, so I had to move the recording drive to the local machine.
Outside of that, only thing I've had to do was shut down all the bloatware that came enabled on 10.

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I _so_ have to figure out what I am going to do when Win 7 gets XP'ed...

*sigh*

At least I have a couple more years to get it all figured out.

Well, since your system(s) seem to be Intel; you could turn them into MACs like I did with Andromeda. :-)

Since you have actual, REAL Xeon processors; I'd suspect that the Hackintosh process would be easier than what I went through with my QX9650. According to the Hackintosh community, (and as I've stated here several times), ANY Intel PC can be turned into a Hackintosh.

Anyway, your choice... Whatever you decide, I wish you luck, and I wish you well. :-)


TL

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TimeLord04
Have TARDIS, will travel...
Come along K-9!
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Greetings,

With all the spying crap in Window$ 10, and so many people out there that don't know about it or don't care about it, what's to say that Micro$oft and partners won't turn on cameras to watch what people are doing?

I'd hate to be sitting at my PC wearing a camo shirt and camo hat with guns hanging on wall racks and have them turn my camera on (I don't have one attached, by the way) and label me a terrorist and have agents knocking at my door or even breaking it down to arrest me for said label. That would suck!

In this day and age, ANYTHING is possible! :|

Peace! :)

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Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

I _so_ have to figure out what I am going to do when Win 7 gets XP'ed...

*sigh*

At least I have a couple more years to get it all figured out.

If the rig(s) is a dedicated cruncher:

OPTION A

Leave it be.  Use a firewall to allow only the urls & ports required by BOINC.


OPTION B

Set aside some cores & RAM, install a VM, try Linux, BSD, or ...

Just found this

Download updates from Microsoft’s Update Catalog without IE

Well M$S has finally done it and has stopped all win 7 updates after SP1 via Windows Update. Due to whatever, I had to completely refresh my system over the weekend and was able to get updates up to and including SP1. After that WU just sits there and spins its wheels for hours and hours and days and day.......... I thought that the new monthly rollup wasn't supposed to happen until October.

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I don't buy computers, I build them!!

I ran into a similar problem several weeks ago after installing Win7 SP1 on a machine from scratch. It seems the older Windows Update Client that installs with SP1 doesn't play well with whatever Microsoft currently has on the server side. However, if you manually download and install one of the newer updates to the WU Client (preferably one from this year), that should then give you cleaner access to all the other updates since SP1. I think I grabbed one from about April or so, but I don't remember for sure.

I thought that the new monthly rollup wasn't supposed to happen until October.

Isn't having your wheel spin a rollup?
[/Snark]

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I think the one you need is https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/kb/3102810. It's in Cosmic_Ocean's list of patches to avoid in case of Windows 10 back-doors, but I've installed it on a couple of machines which were spinning their wheels badly when searching for updates (wasting a lot of CPU cycles), and it didn't have any visible side-effects.

I also had to switch temporarily to Internet Explorer to get the darn thing to download.

I wish I could say yes or no to 10. Somewhere in my cruncher 10 has a problem loading and aborts. It has tried to update to 10 several times without success. So I am still with 7 for now.

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I wish I could say yes or no to 10. Somewhere in my cruncher 10 has a problem loading and aborts. It has tried to update to 10 several times without success. So I am still with 7 for now.

I had this on one box. Any particular error message?

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