Both sytems have kb3035583 installed and are basically identical. Both running Nvidia 350.12 and I don't think the video driver has anything to do with the offer. Just have to wait and see on the last system. Won't panic till 7/29.

Keith

I wouldn't panic until 2016/07/29 if you are wanting to get the update for free.

I have to get My replacement PC up and running first, the current one is a malfunctioning lga1156 platform(with the latest Bios), the next PC will be I hope an lga2011 platform(that's Classified, LOL), running what the MGA Diagnostic Tool says is a Retail Win7 Pro x64 installation(someone at MS thinks I have an OEM, strange, go figure), I've read here though that OEM should not be a big deal. Nothing like answers from the proverbial horses mouth.

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The bean counters rule .....

After all, those Windows 7 users who moved to Windows 8 already paid for something better, but they didn't get it. So, chalk off Windows 8, and give them the Windows 10 upgrade at no cost. As far as the Windows 7 users who bypassed Windows 8 go, chances are that they probably wouldn't have paid to upgrade to Windows 10 anyway, so just give them the Windows 10 upgrade at no cost as well. After all, Microsoft really doesn't want to have to continue to maintain an operating system that has already reached the end of its mainstream support lifecycle. Making Windows 10 a free upgrade with Windows 7, 8, and 8.1 users really is a win-win situation for Microsoft.

MS leapfrogs on OS releases popularity, leaving out the corporate NT and 2000 versions.

Win 3.11 WFWG - good
Win 95 - Good
Win 98 - crap
Win 98SE - good
Millenium - crap (marketing exercise to get money from year 2000)
XP - good
Vista - Crap
Win 7 - good
Win 8 - crap
Win 8.1 - better but crap.
Win 10 - expected to be good

While I disagree with this common opinion about every other MS OS is decent, if anything it highlights developers doing a "first try" then fixing it the next time around, which was quite common for software development for the past 40 years. The OSes weren't pushed out because of bean counters, they were pushed out because they were deemed "good enough" to go (even if you and many others disagree).

New software development is shortening that cycle from literally years down to months or weeks via a constant flow of updates.

MS know that they have the corporate and consumer market by the balls, and therefore they are in a position to do what they want.

Microsoft's dominance has been threatened more than a few times in recent history, and they've had to quickly change gears and move in different directions or they would have been left behind. Anyone remember MS missing the boat on the internet and interconnected devices? MS was also poised to rule the mobile market long ago but did nothing to capitalize on it, and now Apple and Android rule the roost with MS playing catch-up once again.

The corporate and consumer market would drop MS in a heartbeat if something truly better and easier came long. MS has remained successful not because they have anyone by the balls, but because they make good software products that everyone can use (even if they copy ideas from everyone else).

The single thing that stops me from upgrading/reservation of upgrade is uncertainty in the future of Win10 successor and how it will be implemented over Win10.
As long as there is at least some probability that win10 will be mandatory updated to "Windows" at some point of time with month fee I will not risk to lose existing Win7 licenses.
But will install and use Win10 on new configs, w/o any upgrades.

Are you sure you loose the possibillity to reinstall W7 after you upgraded to W10?

As written, such upgrade voids prev OS license. Technically, reinstall surely possible, but that's not enough.

The single thing that stops me from upgrading/reservation of upgrade is uncertainty in the future of Win10 successor and how it will be implemented over Win10.
As long as there is at least some probability that win10 will be mandatory updated to "Windows" at some point of time with month fee I will not risk to lose existing Win7 licenses.
But will install and use Win10 on new configs, w/o any upgrades.

Are you sure you loose the possibillity to reinstall W7 after you upgraded to W10?

As written, such upgrade voids prev OS license. Technically, reinstall surely possible, but that's not enough.

The first host I upgrade, as a trial/test run, will probably be a Dell Optiplex with an OEM install of Win 7 Pro (it's my Haswell).

Crucially - and the reason I bought it - it has a 'factory image' partition which allows reversion to factory-delivered status quickly and easily, with all drivers etc. pre-installed. And the OEM licence is keyed to detection of the Dell BIOS - no licence key number or activation is required.

If upgrading a machine like that voids the ability to do a factory restore, or invalidates the resulting licence, then Microsoft will have a lot of angry (corporate) customers on their hands.

Even Microsoft wouldn't shoot themselves in the foot like that, would they?

Even Microsoft wouldn't shoot themselves in the foot like that, would they?

you tell us after this little experiment, perhaps.
Though it still can differ from case where activation required.

The single thing that stops me from upgrading/reservation of upgrade is uncertainty in the future of Win10 successor and how it will be implemented over Win10.
As long as there is at least some probability that win10 will be mandatory updated to "Windows" at some point of time with month fee I will not risk to lose existing Win7 licenses.
But will install and use Win10 on new configs, w/o any upgrades.

Are you sure you loose the possibillity to reinstall W7 after you upgraded to W10?

As written, such upgrade voids prev OS license. Technically, reinstall surely possible, but that's not enough.

Easiest way is to use a disk/partition imaging tool. Like Symantec Ghost or Acronis True Image. Make an image of the system partition in its current state, apply the OS "upgrade", make image of new OS partition. Then you can go between either at will.

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The single thing that stops me from upgrading/reservation of upgrade is uncertainty in the future of Win10 successor and how it will be implemented over Win10.
As long as there is at least some probability that win10 will be mandatory updated to "Windows" at some point of time with month fee I will not risk to lose existing Win7 licenses.
But will install and use Win10 on new configs, w/o any upgrades.

Are you sure you loose the possibillity to reinstall W7 after you upgraded to W10?

As written, such upgrade voids prev OS license. Technically, reinstall surely possible, but that's not enough.

Easiest way is to use a disk/partition imaging tool. Like Symantec Ghost or Acronis True Image. Make an image of the system partition in its current state, apply the OS "upgrade", make image of new OS partition. Then you can go between either at will.

Again, as I said technically this is one of possible ways to switch between seuencies of bytes on your PC. But, as we all know SOME sequencies of bytes treating DIFFERENTLY from many others. That's called "Copyright laws". The question not how to change one byte sequence to another - it's not the problem. The question is will usage of Win7/8 LICENSE after that particular copy was marked as "upgraded" @M$ side legal or not. And no factory recovery or disk imaging will help with that. If "no, not legal" than such old image will be just kind of activators that allow to use win7 "bytes" w/o license at all.

Slightly off-topic, but related. I've just had a spam call from some mumbled support agency, "about the software status of your Windows computer". I tried the usual challenge - "I have several computers - please identify the one you're calling about by its IP address". They're wise to that now - "we can't give out IP adresses, because they would identify your service provider" (though only to me, the legitimate lessee of the IP address for the time being. So that fails). One more challenge, and she hung up.

I do hope the Win 10 release process isn't going to breathe a new lease of life into these scumbags.

LoL, recived few letters from "nigerian banks" and "attorney of died rich relative" already but none of such kind. Perhaps they treat my mail domain as hopeless for such threats :D :D :D

They are scammers and have been trying it for years , its fun to " wind em up " and it don't take long for them to show themselves for what they really are, when they turn " nasty " and start trying to threaten me I. Tell em to " bring it on" . They always hang up end of

I had to do a fresh clean install on my Win7 x64 machine after last week's storm hit the Philly area. I was on the system at the time and, even though the machine was connected to an ups, something got corrupted the system disk. Don't know what exactly happened, but I was unable to do certain things, including a system restore, after the machine came back up 6 hrs. later. After I applied all of the updates, I got the invitation again, which I accepted. The only thing different this time was that I did get an email confirmation when I didn't get one the last time.

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I don't buy computers, I build them!!

I don't get calls like that, but then My phone number is on the Federal Governments Do Not Call Registry.

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Ok, I have the icon, I don't know why, but it's there now, and this is what I get when I click on it:

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Ok, I have the icon, I don't know why, but it's there now, and this is what I get when I click on it:

That's what's supposed to be there. :-) Happy Win 10-ing, once you decide to take MS up on the offer. :-)


TL

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Well so far I'm not sure when I will push the button, I've got just over a year, plenty of time really.

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When 'Windows' call here, and yes that's what they call themselves, My initial responses involved that we don't have computers, Then on a subsequent 'you mean my apple mac?', then 'No Windows here, We live underground'. By far the most effective was when I used "Good day, you have reach the internet fraud hotline, how may I direct your call?'

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There is a register in Italy called "registro delle opposizioni" where you can record your telephone number in order not to be called by marketeers. But this does not apply to mobile phones.
Tullio

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I've been registered with the UK version - the TPS, or Telephone Preference Service - for years.

Unfortunately, it only stops calls from well-behaved companies, who play by the rules.

Which scammers don't..... :-(

Off topic of Win 10; but, on topic for the unwanted phone calls:

I've had nomorobo functioning for a few months, now. I created my nomorobo account, added ALL of my family's Vonage phone numbers to the nomorobo account, then went through the Vonage setup on each Vonage line for Vonage Simulring.

Now, when a robo call comes in, our phones ring once and then stop ringing. For my line, I did have one persistent robo caller try every night for three nights; then, (because Vonage just FINALLY released their Call Blocking Feature), I added the robo call number into Vonage's Call Block List. Now, no more robo calls... :-)

This is the GREATEST thing since the start of the government's Do Not Call List!!! :-)

nomorobo works on MOST VoIP phone services, and PBX phone systems for offices. (Some cell phone companies, too; but, NOT Verizon.)

nomorobo won an FTC contest; tying for first place, and received $25,000 for the concept, and creation of this robo call and telemarketing blocking service. Also, recently, won a battle with the FCC as to its legalities of use. (The telemarketers were fighting to squash nomorobo.)

EVERYONE needs to know about nomorobo. :-)


TL

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Strangely I don't get calls like this, do not call or not, why? This could be cause My number was a landline phone number and is now on a cell phone and this has been My phone number for quite a few years.

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