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Message 1806658 - Posted: 2 Aug 2016, 15:06:15 UTC
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come on, anything related ?...can´t do anything here is only in english, wait
for other languages updates...
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Message 1806660 - Posted: 2 Aug 2016, 15:20:06 UTC - in response to Message 1806658.  

come on, anything related ?...can´t do anything here is only in english, wait
for other languages updates...


Pretty much... think that should translate.
"Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions.
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Message 1806756 - Posted: 3 Aug 2016, 8:59:25 UTC

ok, if the system getting always slower i can´t stay with windows 10, coudn´t affort a ssd each pc here is standing...
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Message 1806767 - Posted: 3 Aug 2016, 11:17:29 UTC - in response to Message 1806756.  

ok, if the system getting always slower i can´t stay with windows 10, coudn´t affort a ssd each pc here is standing...


did you disable the built in spyware like Barnacules' video ?
"Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions.
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Message 1806769 - Posted: 3 Aug 2016, 11:37:50 UTC

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i´ll do that, the worst problem was to reinstall my "ReadyCache SSD", that don´t work anymore under Win10 without tricks.
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Message 1806774 - Posted: 3 Aug 2016, 12:10:42 UTC - in response to Message 1806767.  

ok, if the system getting always slower i can´t stay with windows 10, coudn´t affort a ssd each pc here is standing...


did you disable the built in spyware like Barnacules' video ?

Hi Jason,

I like that video! I'm going to find more from this guy. :)

Thanks! :)
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Message 1806786 - Posted: 3 Aug 2016, 13:44:41 UTC - in response to Message 1806774.  

Just finished watching it myself, and couldn't agree with you more. I'll also be checking out more of his stuff. Haven't looked yet, but noticed that this vid was released last November, I wonder if he's done any updates to it? Have to dig in some more and check it out.

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Message 1806789 - Posted: 3 Aug 2016, 13:58:43 UTC - in response to Message 1806786.  
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Just finished watching it myself, and couldn't agree with you more. I'll also be checking out more of his stuff. Haven't looked yet, but noticed that this vid was released last November, I wonder if he's done any updates to it? Have to dig in some more and check it out.


Jerry (Barnacules) does a lot of videos, some serious like that, some very funny. There is a follow up one giving his opinion on why m$ went the route they have which is interesting. He apparently worked for m$ testing team for 15 years until they sacked everyone (He has a video on that). Running gag on the internet is to ask on livestreams or Twitter 'Really? you used to work for Microsoft?', because it comes up in so many livestreams, lmao.
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Message 1806817 - Posted: 3 Aug 2016, 16:24:49 UTC

Thanks for the video link Jason. I wish I had watched that before the end of July as it takes a lot of the fear out of Window$ 10. I passed on the free upgrades so I'll just muddle along with 8.1 for now.

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Message 1806878 - Posted: 3 Aug 2016, 21:38:57 UTC - in response to Message 1805774.  
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4/5 crunchers on Win 10, running fine. 5th box won't make the trip, due to BIOS issues. Main work box has a couple irritating problems I have yet to resolve. Oh well ... So it goes ...

To clarify, I have had zero issues with anything BOINC- or SETI- related. Only issue I can't seem to resolve is that where my DLink security camera software worked fine to a network mapped drive for storage on Win 7, on Win 10 it doesn't see the drives even though they are properly mapped. Joys of Windows peer to peer networking. I want my Lantastic back !! lol
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Message 1806892 - Posted: 3 Aug 2016, 22:11:07 UTC - in response to Message 1806767.  

ok, if the system getting always slower i can´t stay with windows 10, coudn´t affort a ssd each pc here is standing...


did you disable the built in spyware like Barnacules' video ?


I followed that video, then I was pointed to O&O Shutup 10. It has the ability to disable driver updates from M$.
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Message 1806919 - Posted: 4 Aug 2016, 0:19:44 UTC - in response to Message 1806892.  

I followed that video, then I was pointed to O&O Shutup 10. It has the ability to disable driver updates from M$.

Then you'll like GWX Control Panel.  See this earlier post, and scroll to the EDIT.  I've had it installed for about six months - works like a charm, and very low on resources.
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Message 1807089 - Posted: 4 Aug 2016, 18:16:32 UTC - in response to Message 1806767.  

ok, if the system getting always slower i can´t stay with windows 10, coudn´t affort a ssd each pc here is standing...


did you disable the built in spyware like Barnacules' video ?

Great video. What I found annoying is Win Update forcing one to recheck all the privacy settings after a restart.
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Message 1807102 - Posted: 4 Aug 2016, 19:05:15 UTC - in response to Message 1807089.  

Other than downloading an .iso of the pre-(april? nov? not sure)update version of it when I heard of all the issues that it was causing, I have for the most part pretty much been ignoring W10. So, one question I have is about Windows update, I've heard that by default is it on to always update everything, but isn't there a way to disable it in 10 like in previous versions?

I've heard much wailing and gnashing of teeth about it, but can't recall hearing about it being able to be shut off, other than I think possibly in a corporate version. Is this still true so long after release, no one has figured out a way to avoid nerfing your system with these auto updates that the Party has determined (and has been dictated thru the Ministry of Truth) that we all need?

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Message 1807123 - Posted: 4 Aug 2016, 20:58:26 UTC - in response to Message 1807102.  

Other than downloading an .iso of the pre-(april? nov? not sure)update version of it when I heard of all the issues that it was causing, I have for the most part pretty much been ignoring W10. So, one question I have is about Windows update, I've heard that by default is it on to always update everything, but isn't there a way to disable it in 10 like in previous versions?

I've heard much wailing and gnashing of teeth about it, but can't recall hearing about it being able to be shut off, other than I think possibly in a corporate version. Is this still true so long after release, no one has figured out a way to avoid nerfing your system with these auto updates that the Party has determined (and has been dictated thru the Ministry of Truth) that we all need?

You won't be able to pick and choose which updates you want unless you go with Enterprise LTSB (Long-Term Service Branch). All other versions are "all or nothing". Plain enterprise, and Pro can defer installing updates for up to 180 days, at which point, they will automatically be installed.

In ALL versions of 10, you can use the registry to turn updates off entirely (not recommended unless you understand the risks of not updating, etc) by going to:
HKLM\software\policies\microsoft\windows\windowsupdate\AU
And create a DWORD and set it to 1:
NoAutoUpdate:1

This is per a Technet page that shows all the options you can do with the registry for Windows Update.

I prefer going straight to the registry, because all versions of Windows can do that, whereas the 'Home' flavors don't have Group Policy Editor (which is basically a front-end for the registry).
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Message 1807153 - Posted: 4 Aug 2016, 22:49:03 UTC - in response to Message 1807123.  

And I'm presuming that it will take an act of God for a non-volume licensed, or should I say a non-enterprise licensed individual to acquire such a version, if it's even possible at all? Doesn't leave us end users with many good options after 2020 then, sadly, when are going to get XP'ed. Unless we suck it up and move to 8, to buy a couple more years. I guess the saying is accurate, Resistance is Futile, you will be Assimilated...

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Message 1807157 - Posted: 4 Aug 2016, 23:07:44 UTC - in response to Message 1807153.  

And I'm presuming that it will take an act of God for a non-volume licensed, or should I say a non-enterprise licensed individual to acquire such a version, if it's even possible at all? Doesn't leave us end users with many good options after 2020 then, sadly, when are going to get XP'ed. Unless we suck it up and move to 8, to buy a couple more years. I guess the saying is accurate, Resistance is Futile, you will be Assimilated...


Their is always Linux.
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Message 1807180 - Posted: 5 Aug 2016, 0:23:35 UTC - in response to Message 1807157.  

And I'm presuming that it will take an act of God for a non-volume licensed, or should I say a non-enterprise licensed individual to acquire such a version, if it's even possible at all? Doesn't leave us end users with many good options after 2020 then, sadly, when are going to get XP'ed. Unless we suck it up and move to 8, to buy a couple more years. I guess the saying is accurate, Resistance is Futile, you will be Assimilated...


Their is always Linux.

MAC OS!!! ;-) :-)


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Message 1807222 - Posted: 5 Aug 2016, 3:25:01 UTC - in response to Message 1807102.  

Other than downloading an .iso of the pre-(april? nov? not sure)update version of it when I heard of all the issues that it was causing, I have for the most part pretty much been ignoring W10. So, one question I have is about Windows update, I've heard that by default is it on to always update everything, but isn't there a way to disable it in 10 like in previous versions?

I've heard much wailing and gnashing of teeth about it, but can't recall hearing about it being able to be shut off, other than I think possibly in a corporate version. Is this still true so long after release, no one has figured out a way to avoid nerfing your system with these auto updates that the Party has determined (and has been dictated thru the Ministry of Truth) that we all need?

There's a tick box to Defer Updates. MS says this about that:

Defer upgrades in Windows 10

Some Windows 10 editions let you defer upgrades to your PC. When you defer upgrades, new Windows features won’t be downloaded or installed for several months. Deferring upgrades doesn’t affect security updates. Note that deferring upgrades will prevent you from getting the latest Windows features as soon as they’re available.

So, yes and no, like most other Win 10 things ...

There's also an option to choose how updates are delivered (this is slick, and scary):

Download updates and apps from other PCs

In addition to downloading updates and apps from Microsoft, Windows will get updates and apps from other PCs that already have them. You can choose which PCs you get these updates from:

PCs on your local network. When Windows downloads an update or app, it will look for other PCs on your local network that have already downloaded the update or app using Delivery Optimization. Windows then downloads parts of the file from those PCs and parts of the file from Microsoft. Windows doesn’t download the entire file from one place. Instead, the download is broken down into smaller parts. Windows uses the fastest, most reliable download source for each part of the file.

PCs on your local network and PCs on the Internet. Windows uses the same process as when getting updates and apps from PCs on your local network, and also looks for PCs on the Internet that can be used as a source to download parts of updates and apps.

Turn off. Get directly from MS only


So I upgraded 4 PCs, supposedly only downloaded the stuff once, but no way to tell. Definitely don't enable the PCs on the Internet part, only your local network. By being a getter, you are also a giver, or so it seems.

Better info here: http://www.howtogeek.com/223083/what-does-%e2%80%9cdefer-upgrades%e2%80%9d-in-windows-10-mean/
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Message 1807231 - Posted: 5 Aug 2016, 5:35:16 UTC - in response to Message 1807180.  
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MAC OS!!!


yeah, but not anybody have the goods to install a hackintosh...
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