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Message 1790849 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 7:57:24 UTC - in response to Message 1790846.  
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Well all reasonable, though tell that to the french airport that had to shut down recenttly, because no-one knew how to fix their Windows 95 machine.

I think it was actually running on Win3.1

How about the closure of English airspace when one of their systems went down in Dec 2014? That system was cutting edge, back in the late 1960s.
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Message 1790851 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 8:05:06 UTC - in response to Message 1790847.  

@Kittyman, first legit action would be itemisising costs on an invoice, Which I suspect M4 would more than happily pay, given the payoffs from Datamining and NSA, Next step after that would be individual small claims, following which would likely follow a class action, should m$ be found in violation of your constitution (which they are, by use of force/fraud)

The only problem I see there, IE itemizing costs, is that as far as I understand it, the business users of older OSs are getting a way to brick wall the 10 onslaught.
The average Joe, such as you and I, are not.
And how do I itemize my cost and grief in dealing with their BS?
I could put a number on my pain and suffering at MS's hands....hours of lost sleep would be a big one.


Well all reasonable, though tell that to the french airport that had to shut down recenttly, because no-one knew how to fix their Windows 95 machine.

Maybe, Jason....
It is time for the kittyman to give up his dreams and go into retirement.
I am getting increasingly disturbed by things beyond my control.
And getting older by the day.
Lately, I don't get the same satisfaction out of things that used to bring me great joy.

My faith in this project is immense and never ending.

What supports my efforts seems to be getting weaker by the day..

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'Control' is and always was an illusion. In engineering it's recognised as a function of applying filters to the noise. For many that alone is troubling, but then there is the burden of responsibility (Assumed willingly, or cast upon). I like to think that differences aside, combined we're stronger than the accepted status Quo (e.g. Seth Whatisface).
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Message 1790852 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 8:05:54 UTC - in response to Message 1790849.  

Well all reasonable, though tell that to the french airport that had to shut down recenttly, because no-one knew how to fix their Windows 95 machine.

I think it was actually running on Win3.1

How about the closure of English airspace when one of their systems went down in Dec 2014? That system was cutting edge, back in the late 1960s.


Sounds familiar. Good thing they caught it :)
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Message 1790855 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 8:16:56 UTC - in response to Message 1790851.  
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'Control' is and always was an illusion. In engineering it's recognised as a function of applying filters to the noise. For many that alone is troubling, but then there is the burden of responsibility (Assumed willingly, or cast upon). I like to think that differences aside, combined we're stronger than the accepted status Quo (e.g. Seth Whatisface).

Well, the original point was to search for ET here.
The manglings of our attempts to do so by MS trying to micromanage their (ours by means of purchasing it) OS and corrupting it if we do not play along is the pain I am speaking of.

Meow.
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Message 1790856 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 8:21:06 UTC - in response to Message 1790855.  
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'Control' is and always was an illusion. In engineering it's recognised as a function of applying filters to the noise. For many that alone is troubling, but then there is the burden of responsibility (Assumed willingly, or cast upon). I like to think that differences aside, combined we're stronger than the accepted status Quo (e.g. Seth Whatisface).

Well, the original point was to search for ET here.
The manglings of our attempts to do so by MS trying to micromanage their (ours by means of purchasing it) OS and corrupting it if we do not play along is the pain I am speaking of. [For example US FDA actively moving against vaping = bad, and signing the death certificate of maybe millions]

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Yeah, can relate strongly to ex-Soviet states trying to wean off graft at this point. Perhaps the crooks need to find some other teat to wean off.
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Message 1790857 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 8:23:17 UTC - in response to Message 1790856.  



'Control' is and always was an illusion. In engineering it's recognised as a function of applying filters to the noise. For many that alone is troubling, but then there is the burden of responsibility (Assumed willingly, or cast upon). I like to think that differences aside, combined we're stronger than the accepted status Quo (e.g. Seth Whatisface).

Well, the original point was to search for ET here.
The manglings of our attempts to do so by MS trying to micromanage their (ours by means of purchasing it) OS and corrupting it if we do not play along is the pain I am speaking of.

Meow.


Yeah, can relate strongly to ex-Soviet states trying to wean off graft at this point. Perhaps the crooks need to find some other teat to wean off.

Why bother, when they can just nudge a bit of code and reap millions.
The Russians have been doing that for years.
Because, as MS knows, they can get away with it, and once done, who is going to get it back?
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Message 1790859 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 8:24:59 UTC - in response to Message 1790857.  
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exactly Kittyman. Proud to see eye to eye.
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Message 1790860 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 8:26:47 UTC

Can we stay non-political in NC please?
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Message 1790861 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 8:28:06 UTC - in response to Message 1790859.  

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Jason...you and I both know that we are just peons in a power play by MS.
I hope they do not get away with it.

Chances are, they shall. Or maybe not this time.

They are breaking so many legal and ethical boundaries.
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Message 1790862 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 8:28:11 UTC - in response to Message 1790860.  

Can we stay non-political in NC please?

Pfft, probably not ? I call for Number Crunching politics amnesty, until such time as stuff doesn't suck.
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Message 1790863 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 8:29:11 UTC - in response to Message 1790861.  

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Jason...you and I both know that we are just peons in a power play by MS.
I hope they do not get away with it.

Chances are, they shall. Or maybe not this time.

They are breaking so many legal and ethical boundaries.


Welcome to the future :D (and where the F@ck is my flying car?)
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Message 1790864 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 8:30:28 UTC - in response to Message 1790860.  

Can we stay non-political in NC please?

Well, Fuzzybutt, the amount of money MS puts into politics might indeed be a topic for the PC forum, but we are talking OS stuff.
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Message 1790865 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 8:32:09 UTC - in response to Message 1790863.  

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Jason...you and I both know that we are just peons in a power play by MS.
I hope they do not get away with it.

Chances are, they shall. Or maybe not this time.

They are breaking so many legal and ethical boundaries.


Welcome to the future :D (and where the F@ck is my flying car?)

It stopped flying when MS noticed you had not upgraded to 10 upon their insistence.
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Message 1790866 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 8:34:41 UTC - in response to Message 1790862.  
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Can we stay non-political in NC please?

Pfft, probably not ? I call for Number Crunching politics amnesty, until such time as stuff doesn't suck.

Sounds too much like waiting for Godot.
Motion declined.

edit: you may proceed. I think that was enough of an amnesty.
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Message 1790957 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 15:41:37 UTC - in response to Message 1790860.  

Can we stay non-political in NC please?

If a thread has "windows" "macintosh" or "linux" in the title, it is political. Just a sad commentary on life.
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Message 1790967 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 16:27:43 UTC - in response to Message 1790957.  
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Can we stay non-political in NC please?

If a thread has "windows" "macintosh" or "linux" in the title, it is political. Just a sad commentary on life.


Almost anything related to brands is partly political these days.
It just depends on the eye of the beholder.
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Message 1791012 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 19:48:12 UTC

This thread gets confusing when posts go missing.

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Message 1791056 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 23:20:22 UTC

I say Nay... Win10 forced an update on my parent's machine, failed midway through, destroyed the bootloader on its way out and left me with a mess that took 6 hours to fix.

There's definitely times that Microsoft makes me want to go back to Windows XP, and I keep a Ubuntu dualboot for a reason.
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Message 1791079 - Posted: 28 May 2016, 0:40:55 UTC

I hate to say it but ...
The more F/U'd a system is, the less likely someone is paying attention
They are the ones forced into 10 and because it started F/U'd
you can rest assured it only gets worse under 10!
Hence the nightmare stories.
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Message 1791110 - Posted: 28 May 2016, 3:02:42 UTC - in response to Message 1791079.  

I hate to say it but ...
The more F/U'd a system is, the less likely someone is paying attention
They are the ones forced into 10 and because it started F/U'd
you can rest assured it only gets worse under 10!
Hence the nightmare stories.


These stories are not always the case of having a F/U'd system. I truly believed it would have been a good thing upgrading to what has become the M$ ransomware (Win10) and was eager to install it, when it first became widely available. My nightmare story happened during the upgrade that so completely corrupted my system during the install and I couldn't back out it because of said corruption, and I had to do a complete clean install of Win7 from my install CD, it took 2 days to completely re-install everything.

Remember back to when this thread was started, not everyone had a F/U'd system to begin with. The greater majority of us that attempted to upgrade and had to revert back to Win7 had perfectly good and stable machines.


I don't buy computers, I build them!!
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