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Message 1789342 - Posted: 21 May 2016, 22:29:11 UTC - in response to Message 1789331.  
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How to get & install Windows 7 SP1 Convenience Rollup.

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Message 1789569 - Posted: 22 May 2016, 19:35:31 UTC - in response to Message 1789342.  

Nice links. However, rather than waste time burning iso images, use a virtual drive - I use MagicISO - Nifty little program :-)

If using NTlite to slipstream, install WAIK 1st before installing NTlite.

If using NTlite, select sources folder for Windows.
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Message 1790180 - Posted: 25 May 2016, 5:19:15 UTC

Microsoft has been conning Windows users for two months

Microsoft has been using a deceptive tactic to dupe Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 users into upgrading to Windows 10 for at least the last two months, according to the company's website.

An oft-revised support document that Computerworld cited in a May 16 story about Microsoft's aggressive upgrade practices spelled out the workings of a pop-up notification that Windows 7 and 8.1 users had been seeing. The notification told those customers -- primarily consumers, but also many small-to-mid-sized businesses -- that the free Windows 10 upgrade had been pre-scheduled by Microsoft.


"Your Windows 10 upgrade will occur at the scheduled time if you close this window without either selecting Upgrade now or by using the link to change the upgrade schedule or cancel the scheduled upgrade," the document read [emphasis added].

It's unclear how long before March 23 Microsoft was defining an X-click as approving the pre-scheduled Windows 10 upgrade.

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Message 1790326 - Posted: 25 May 2016, 18:36:43 UTC

Microsoft has backtracked on the "clicking the 'X' indicates acceptance" upgrade notification

Microsoft has u-turned over changes it made to a pop-up encouraging users to upgrade to Windows 10.

Users were angry that clicking the cross to dismiss the box meant that they had agreed to the upgrade.

Based on "customer feedback", Microsoft said it would add another notification that provided customers with "an additional opportunity for cancelling the upgrade".

The pop-up design had been described as a "nasty trick".

Microsoft told the BBC it had modified the pop-up as a result of criticism: "We've added another notification that confirms the time of the scheduled upgrade and provides the customer an additional opportunity for cancelling or rescheduling the upgrade.

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Message 1790333 - Posted: 25 May 2016, 18:58:08 UTC

Wednesday May 25 2016, 11:56 AM

I'm in So. CA, USA, and, a bit ago, on our local radio news, there was a warning about M$ pushing Win 10 very hard.

My PC has all updates switched off. But, the past 2 days, my PC has restarted itself w/o warning for an unknown reason. I can't say if its M$ or not, but am suspicious. I run Win 7.0


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Message 1790367 - Posted: 25 May 2016, 21:51:07 UTC

Just did one of my random checks and KB3035583 reared its' ugly head again.


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Message 1790744 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 0:15:30 UTC

The "free" upgrade cost me $60 to have it removed. It wrecked my pc. Won't try it again.
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Message 1790837 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 6:50:52 UTC - in response to Message 1790744.  

The "free" upgrade cost me $60 to have it removed. It wrecked my pc. Won't try it again.


You got out cheap friend. Fighting this thing on two machines has easily cost me 40 hours so far. When all is said and done will be making an invoice to m$
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Message 1790840 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 7:08:42 UTC

I am still waiting for the first major class action lawsuit against MS regarding 10.
It has to happen, and I believe any such lawsuit shall be won.

I cannot recall such a coercive, deceptive, despicable manner of doing business in my memory.

For example, if an automobile manufacturer were to pull this stunt in a similar manner with the software that runs your car?

"Please pull over and park while we upgrade your engine computer to version 10. It's free. Really. For now. And once we have done that, we shall be able to update it anytime we wish to without your notice or consent.

Please apply the brakes to consent to this upgrade.

There now, that wasn't so bad, now was it? We can now track your every movement and sell that information to anybody we wish to. You may notice that your car does not behave exactly as you are used to. Please take care as your automobile drives the way WE wish it to rather than the way you wish it to. Have a nice day."

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Message 1790841 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 7:20:50 UTC - in response to Message 1790840.  

@Kittyman, first legit action would be itemisising costs on an invoice, Which I suspect M4 would more than happily pay, given the payoffs from Datamining and NSA, Next step after that would be individual small claims, following which would likely follow a class action, should m$ be found in violation of your constitution (which they are, by use of force/fraud)
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Message 1790844 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 7:32:46 UTC - in response to Message 1790841.  

@Kittyman, first legit action would be itemisising costs on an invoice, Which I suspect M4 would more than happily pay, given the payoffs from Datamining and NSA, Next step after that would be individual small claims, following which would likely follow a class action, should m$ be found in violation of your constitution (which they are, by use of force/fraud)

The only problem I see there, IE itemizing costs, is that as far as I understand it, the business users of older OSs are getting a way to brick wall the 10 onslaught.
The average Joe, such as you and I, are not.
And how do I itemize my cost and grief in dealing with their BS?
I could put a number on my pain and suffering at MS's hands....hours of lost sleep would be a big one.
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Message 1790846 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 7:39:36 UTC - in response to Message 1790844.  

@Kittyman, first legit action would be itemisising costs on an invoice, Which I suspect M4 would more than happily pay, given the payoffs from Datamining and NSA, Next step after that would be individual small claims, following which would likely follow a class action, should m$ be found in violation of your constitution (which they are, by use of force/fraud)

The only problem I see there, IE itemizing costs, is that as far as I understand it, the business users of older OSs are getting a way to brick wall the 10 onslaught.
The average Joe, such as you and I, are not.
And how do I itemize my cost and grief in dealing with their BS?
I could put a number on my pain and suffering at MS's hands....hours of lost sleep would be a big one.


Well all reasonable, though tell that to the french airport that had to shut down recenttly, because no-one knew how to fix their Windows 95 machine.
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Message 1790847 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 7:51:07 UTC - in response to Message 1790846.  

@Kittyman, first legit action would be itemisising costs on an invoice, Which I suspect M4 would more than happily pay, given the payoffs from Datamining and NSA, Next step after that would be individual small claims, following which would likely follow a class action, should m$ be found in violation of your constitution (which they are, by use of force/fraud)

The only problem I see there, IE itemizing costs, is that as far as I understand it, the business users of older OSs are getting a way to brick wall the 10 onslaught.
The average Joe, such as you and I, are not.
And how do I itemize my cost and grief in dealing with their BS?
I could put a number on my pain and suffering at MS's hands....hours of lost sleep would be a big one.


Well all reasonable, though tell that to the french airport that had to shut down recenttly, because no-one knew how to fix their Windows 95 machine.

Maybe, Jason....
It is time for the kittyman to give up his dreams and go into retirement.
I am getting increasingly disturbed by things beyond my control.
And getting older by the day.
Lately, I don't get the same satisfaction out of things that used to bring me great joy.

My faith in this project is immense and never ending.

What supports my efforts seems to be getting weaker by the day..

Meowsigh.
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Message 1790849 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 7:57:24 UTC - in response to Message 1790846.  
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Well all reasonable, though tell that to the french airport that had to shut down recenttly, because no-one knew how to fix their Windows 95 machine.

I think it was actually running on Win3.1

How about the closure of English airspace when one of their systems went down in Dec 2014? That system was cutting edge, back in the late 1960s.
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Message 1790851 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 8:05:06 UTC - in response to Message 1790847.  

@Kittyman, first legit action would be itemisising costs on an invoice, Which I suspect M4 would more than happily pay, given the payoffs from Datamining and NSA, Next step after that would be individual small claims, following which would likely follow a class action, should m$ be found in violation of your constitution (which they are, by use of force/fraud)

The only problem I see there, IE itemizing costs, is that as far as I understand it, the business users of older OSs are getting a way to brick wall the 10 onslaught.
The average Joe, such as you and I, are not.
And how do I itemize my cost and grief in dealing with their BS?
I could put a number on my pain and suffering at MS's hands....hours of lost sleep would be a big one.


Well all reasonable, though tell that to the french airport that had to shut down recenttly, because no-one knew how to fix their Windows 95 machine.

Maybe, Jason....
It is time for the kittyman to give up his dreams and go into retirement.
I am getting increasingly disturbed by things beyond my control.
And getting older by the day.
Lately, I don't get the same satisfaction out of things that used to bring me great joy.

My faith in this project is immense and never ending.

What supports my efforts seems to be getting weaker by the day..

Meowsigh.


'Control' is and always was an illusion. In engineering it's recognised as a function of applying filters to the noise. For many that alone is troubling, but then there is the burden of responsibility (Assumed willingly, or cast upon). I like to think that differences aside, combined we're stronger than the accepted status Quo (e.g. Seth Whatisface).
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Message 1790852 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 8:05:54 UTC - in response to Message 1790849.  

Well all reasonable, though tell that to the french airport that had to shut down recenttly, because no-one knew how to fix their Windows 95 machine.

I think it was actually running on Win3.1

How about the closure of English airspace when one of their systems went down in Dec 2014? That system was cutting edge, back in the late 1960s.


Sounds familiar. Good thing they caught it :)
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Message 1790855 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 8:16:56 UTC - in response to Message 1790851.  
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'Control' is and always was an illusion. In engineering it's recognised as a function of applying filters to the noise. For many that alone is troubling, but then there is the burden of responsibility (Assumed willingly, or cast upon). I like to think that differences aside, combined we're stronger than the accepted status Quo (e.g. Seth Whatisface).

Well, the original point was to search for ET here.
The manglings of our attempts to do so by MS trying to micromanage their (ours by means of purchasing it) OS and corrupting it if we do not play along is the pain I am speaking of.

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Message 1790856 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 8:21:06 UTC - in response to Message 1790855.  
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'Control' is and always was an illusion. In engineering it's recognised as a function of applying filters to the noise. For many that alone is troubling, but then there is the burden of responsibility (Assumed willingly, or cast upon). I like to think that differences aside, combined we're stronger than the accepted status Quo (e.g. Seth Whatisface).

Well, the original point was to search for ET here.
The manglings of our attempts to do so by MS trying to micromanage their (ours by means of purchasing it) OS and corrupting it if we do not play along is the pain I am speaking of. [For example US FDA actively moving against vaping = bad, and signing the death certificate of maybe millions]

Meow.


Yeah, can relate strongly to ex-Soviet states trying to wean off graft at this point. Perhaps the crooks need to find some other teat to wean off.
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Message 1790857 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 8:23:17 UTC - in response to Message 1790856.  



'Control' is and always was an illusion. In engineering it's recognised as a function of applying filters to the noise. For many that alone is troubling, but then there is the burden of responsibility (Assumed willingly, or cast upon). I like to think that differences aside, combined we're stronger than the accepted status Quo (e.g. Seth Whatisface).

Well, the original point was to search for ET here.
The manglings of our attempts to do so by MS trying to micromanage their (ours by means of purchasing it) OS and corrupting it if we do not play along is the pain I am speaking of.

Meow.


Yeah, can relate strongly to ex-Soviet states trying to wean off graft at this point. Perhaps the crooks need to find some other teat to wean off.

Why bother, when they can just nudge a bit of code and reap millions.
The Russians have been doing that for years.
Because, as MS knows, they can get away with it, and once done, who is going to get it back?
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Message 1790859 - Posted: 27 May 2016, 8:24:59 UTC - in response to Message 1790857.  
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exactly Kittyman. Proud to see eye to eye.
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