I'm firmly in the "Wait and let the first adopters cull the worst of the problems" camp.

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Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

I am a Linux user but since having bought a HP PC last year with Windows 8, soon updated to 8.1, I find Windows 8.1 very reliable. I am running 4 BOINC projects on it, two of them use VirtualBox. So when Windows 10 arrives I don't think I shall have any problem.
Tullio

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I do not see ANY advantage to change to win 10 from the crunching perspective.
If anything, it is going to cause problems.If you like that-go for it.

I do not see ANY advantage to change to win 10 from the crunching perspective.
If anything, it is going to cause problems.If you like that-go for it.

why would it post a problem?
i've been testing BOINC on Win10 4 last 6months...everything works OK! ;)

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Where is the advantage?

If you are a registered Insider and run the current build 10130 with your MS-account, you should get the final version for free even without running W7 or 8.1. At least that's what many german tech sites claim since yesterday. Could be interresting for ppl that still run XP.

Micorosft orginally posted "users would receive the Windows 10 final release build and remain activated.". Then they promptly removed the "and remain activated" portion & added a disclaimer that only Windows 7 or 8.1 license owners would get Windows 10 for free when it arrives on July 29th

Looks like Microsoft provided some much-needed clarification:

"Peter Bright @ ArsTechnica" wrote:

On Friday, Microsoft appeared to describe a way to get Windows 10 at no cost that would apply to everyone. While the company has been clear that Windows 7 and 8 users would be able to upgrade to Windows 10 at no cost for one year after Windows 10's July 29 release, the Friday blog post seemed to create a way that everyone else could get an activated, genuine copy of the software for free, too.

Over the weekend, the company backed away from this idea, altering the wording of its post to remove the semblance of an official path to free Windows 10. Today, the company has made a third update that spells out the situation more clearly than it has done in the past.

First, it says that Windows 10, both the final release and the preview releases, should only be used on "Genuine Windows devices." Installed it into a virtual machine to test? It's probably not properly licensed. Stuck it on an old Windows Vista machine you had lying around? We don't know. Probably not licensed, because Windows Vista isn't eligible for the free Windows 10 upgrade license offer. Will anyone notice or care? No.

It looks like those running Windows in a virtual machine like Tullio won't be eligible for the free upgrade.

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/06/microsoft-clarification-kinda-clears-up-free-windows-10-license-confusion/

Where is the advantage?

Why would Microsoft provide a crunching-specific advantage? You may as well ask if Windows 10 will improve the gas mileage on your car, then decline to upgrade if it doesn't.

So, why change, then?

So, why change, then?

Good point.

I imagine some older programs wont work on win 10 anymore like it is on win 8.1.
So i`ll mabe update my win 8.1 install but certainly not win 7.

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With each crime and every kindness we birth our future.

Where is the advantage?

it's fast as Win8 (or faster), with no Win8 bullshit design! ;)

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non-profit org. Play4Life in Zagreb, Croatia, EU

I got a message that my upgrade is already reserved.
Tullio

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http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/06/19/upcoming-changes-to-windows-10-insider-preview-builds/

The crux of it is this:

Do you want to continue as a Windows Insider and keep getting preview builds after 7/29?
Or do you want to upgrade your Genuine Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 system that has been getting Windows 10 Insider Preview builds to the 7/29 release and stop being an Insider?
“I want to continue as a Windows Insider!” If you want to continue as a Windows Insider past 7/29 there is nothing you need to do. You’re already opted in and receiving builds in the Fast or Slow ring depending upon your selection. This is prerelease software and is activated with a prerelease key. Each individual build will expire after a time, but you’ll continue to receive new builds so by the time an older prerelease build expires you’ll have received a new one. Since we’re continuing the Windows Insider Program you’ll be able to continue receiving builds and those builds will continue to be activated under the terms of the Windows Insider Program. We provide ISOs for these builds for recovery from any significant problems, but they are still pre-release software. As part of the program we’ll upgrade Insiders to what is for all intents and purposes the same build as what other customers will get on 7/29, but that will be just another build for Insiders, and those who stay in the program will simply get the next build after as well.

“I want to opt out of the Windows Insider Program on 7/29.” If you decide to opt-out of the program and upgrade to the 7/29 build you will be subject to exactly the same terms and conditions that govern the offer* that was extended to all Genuine Windows 7 and 8.1 customers. This is not a path to attain a license for Windows XP or Windows Vista systems. If your system upgraded from a Genuine Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 license it will remain activated, but if not, you will be required to roll back to your previous OS version or acquire a new Windows 10 license. If you do not roll back or acquire a new license the build will eventually expire.

Still no icon for Win 10, when it started to show up on others PCs and still none, when I have 8 updates to do soon.

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No update icon for me as I choose to only accept important updates which doesn't include that 1 and I really don't want it. ;-)

Cheers.

Still no icon for Win 10, when it started to show up on others PCs and still none, when I have 8 updates to do soon.

Greetings Zoom,

It will eventually show up. My other half's laptop took a couple weeks to acquire the icon. Just keep doing the updates and rebooting; it will show up. :)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

No update icon for me as I choose to only accept important updates which doesn't include that 1 and I really don't want it. ;-)

Cheers.

Greetings Wiggo,

I usually always go by this statement: "If it's for free, it's for me!" When has Microsoft ever just given away their OS? I'm taking advantage of this 'once in a lifetime' opportunity. I will be doing it cautiously however. I will upgrade my laptop first, which is not used for "mission critical" operations. If all goes well with it, after say a month or 2, I will upgrade my main PC. No harm, no foul. :)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

No update icon for me as I choose to only accept important updates which doesn't include that 1 and I really don't want it. ;-)

Cheers.

Greetings Wiggo,

I usually always go by this statement: "If it's for free, it's for me!" When has Microsoft ever just given away their OS? I'm taking advantage of this 'once in a lifetime' opportunity. I will be doing it cautiously however. I will upgrade my laptop first, which is not used for "mission critical" operations. If all goes well with it, after say a month or 2, I will upgrade my main PC. No harm, no foul. :)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

There are a couple of programs that I rely on and Win10 GPU drivers don't cut it so ATM Win10 won't cut it for me yet.

I also don't mind paying for what works. ;-)

Cheers.

ATM WIn10...do u have only Home Win7/8?

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ATM WIn10...do u have only Home Win7/8?

If that's directed at me then I'll tell you that I have both Win7 x64 Home and Pro systems here (both are crunchers as shown in my stats) plus a Win10 development setup here (but I don't crunch on it) and Win8.x just doesn't cut it in anyway shape or form for me at all as a power user (Win10 shows a lot of promise, but it just isn't up to my tasks or usage ATM). ;-)

Cheers.

So, why change, then?

You can ask that question of all things in life. The answer obviously depends on where you place your values and how you weight pros and cons.

I think too many people expect that each OS or software upgrade is supposed to have a bunch of bells and whistles before they upgrade, and if not... forget about it.

However, the future of software development is moving away from major version with major new features. Software development is moving toward small, incremental changes that add up to larger changes over a period of time. Take Chrome and Firefox for example. A new major version comes out every 6 months or so, each with only minor features and bug fixes. However, if you compare (e.g.) Chrome 38 against Chrome 14, you can see the major differences. Adobe Cloud and Microsoft 365 are both examples of software solutions where users are always on the latest version to reduce support costs.

Windows 10 is bringing that kind of development to the Windows platform.

I understand that many people, especially those that have been in the industry for a long time and still fear OS updates, will be resistant to such a change. They will continue to look to each major version as something to be skeptical of, and will always ask "what does it do for me?". Those kinds of questions will no longer be relevant over time.

But, if you want to stay within that mindset, I'm not here to sell Windows 10 to you. I'm not going to sell you on why you should upgrade or change. I don't mean to come off as rude, but I really don't care if you upgrade or not. If you see no value, then I'm not going to fight that uphill battle.

Personally, since I love the x86 industry, and I enjoy using Windows and have always been on the bleeding edge (bought Vista when it first came out, loved it, never had a problem with it like other people). I find value in upgrading to Windows 10 and staying on current versions of Windows. As someone who works in IT support, it helps to stay ahead of the curve at all times.

But, as is often repeated around here: to each their own.