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Shawn Rothermund Send message Joined: 13 Feb 03 Posts: 132 Credit: 79,997,445 RAC: 123 |
I just caught this one a little while ago(kb3135445) installed a new monitor and after start up went to windows update and it showed up in optional updates(for now) glad to know that all of us are watching. Cosmic ocean's list is a great help since I have 3 machines of my own to watch over and I also keep an eye on my in-laws computer as well and I have given the list to several people I work with to help them as well. ME AND MY BOY LOOKING FOR ET |
Cosmic_Ocean Send message Joined: 23 Dec 00 Posts: 3027 Credit: 13,516,867 RAC: 13 |
Next one is out, kb3135445. Noted. I'll add 3135445 to the list, once I figure out what the win8 equivalent is. That particular update comes in pairs, every time. Linux laptop: record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up) |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
Still haven't worked out how I completely broke windows update on my Win7, main dev host, but it's running awesome :D "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
Still haven't worked out how I completely broke windows update on my Win7, main dev host, but it's running awesome :D Did you disable wuauserv? SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
I did at one point, though reenabling didn't 'fix' it at soem point. Seems like m$ tied themselves in knots trying to screw me for whatever. "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
arkayn Send message Joined: 14 May 99 Posts: 4438 Credit: 55,006,323 RAC: 0 |
Next one is out, kb3135445. That would be this one. kb3135449 |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24909 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Well GWX works a treat. M$ in their wisdom gave me 64 updates last night, just logged on & it's little icon popped back on... ...Sorry M$ 01/02/17 this rig will be in "MINT" condition :-) |
Akio Send message Joined: 18 May 11 Posts: 375 Credit: 32,129,242 RAC: 0 |
Saw on social media this morning exactly what you all already know: Windows 10 is now being slipped into the Windows Update higher recommended download/install list. I find this type of pushing of said OS update bogus on Microsoft's part; had I not caught the info this morning and then read this thread, based on my Windows Update settings I would have undoubtedly had Windows 10 installed without my knowledge. I have since changed my settings. Thank you guys. You are much appreciated. |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
...I would have undoubtedly had Windows 10 installed without my knowledge. No, that's not possible. Updating to Windows 10 does require some key presses and agreement with EULA's still. What the update will do though is download and start, then go wait for you to wake up and log on, before telling you that the installation process is ready to start. Not sure if at this point there is the option to cancel, though. But then, if you say No to the EULA, the installation will fail anyway. |
Akio Send message Joined: 18 May 11 Posts: 375 Credit: 32,129,242 RAC: 0 |
...I would have undoubtedly had Windows 10 installed without my knowledge. I stand corrected. Thanks, Ageless. |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
More Optional updates for Windows 7: - 3123862 is the more aggressive Windows 10 advertiser that download Windows 10 through Windows Update: Updated capabilities to upgrade Windows 8.1 and Windows 7. - 3135445 (as already pointed out by arkayn) which applies to Windows Server too, may look like just a simple update to Windows Update, but I wouldn't prod it with a stick. |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Thanks for the 'heads up' on the GWX Control Panel, reviews are correct, works like a dream. And thanks Jord for the suggestion: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate I'm always nervous poking around in the registry, but everything seems to be still working after the value change from 0 to 1.....":} "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Cosmic_Ocean Send message Joined: 23 Dec 00 Posts: 3027 Credit: 13,516,867 RAC: 13 |
"updates to avoid", version 6: (Red for 8.1, Blue for 7, Green for either/both): KB 2952664 - Labeled a compatibility upgrade for upgrading Windows 7, its purpose is to "make improvements to the current operating system in order to ease the upgrade experience to the latest version of Windows". KB 2957026 - This update makes feature changes and improvements to the Windows 8.1 Upgrade notification in Windows 8 or Windows RT. After you install this update, the upgrade will be more discoverable and faster. KB 2976978 - A compatibility update for Windows 8.1 and Windows 8 which "performs diagnostics on the Windows system [..] to determine whether compatibility issues may be encountered when the latest Windows operating system is installed. KB 2977759 - This update performs diagnostics on the Windows systems that participate in the Windows Customer Experience Improvement Program. These diagnostics help determine whether compatibility issues may be encountered when the latest Windows operating system is installed. This update will help Microsoft and its partners ensure compatibility for customers who want to install the latest Windows operating system. KB 2990214 - Does the same as KB 3044374 but on Windows 7. KB 3021917 - Does the same as KB 2976978 but on Windows 7. KB 3022345 - Update to enable the Diagnostics Tracking Service in Windows (Windows 7 SP1, Windows 8.1) KB 3035583 - This update installs the "Get Windows 10" notification on Windows 7 SP1 and Windows 8.1 KB 3044374 - This update for Windows 8.1 enables systems to upgrade from the current operating system to a later version of Windows. KB 3050265 - This update makes improvements to the Update client to increase scanning speed, and to improve the upgrade to later versions of Windows. Also provides the registry keys to disable upgrading to 10. KB 3050267 - Same as KB3050265 but for Windows 8.1. KB 3058168 - This update allows 8.1 Key Management Service (KMS) hosts to upgrade to 10. KB 3065987 - This article describes an update that contains some improvements to Windows Update Client in Windows 7. KB 3065988 - Same as KB3065987, but for Windows 8.1. KB 3068708 - This update introduces the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to existing devices. KB 3075249 - This update adds telemetry points to the User Account Control (UAC) feature to collect information on elevations that come from low integrity levels. KB 3075851 - This article describes an update that contains some improvements to Windows Update Client in Windows 7 and also resolves an issue in which certain Windows Update operations fail when you install (KB3065987) on Windows 7 Embedded editions. KB 3075853 - Same as KB3075851, but for Windows 8.1. KB 3079821 - Same as KB3058168, but for Windows 7. KB 3081954 - This update ensures users can continue using Work Folders when upgrading from Windows 7 to 10. Also adds telemetry points to Work Folders for Asimov telemetry pipeline. KB 3080149 - This package updates the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to existing devices. KB 3083324 - Windows Update Client for Windows 7 - August 2015. KB 3083325 - Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1 - August 2015. KB 3083710 - New Update Client for Windows 7. No further details about it. (It is suspected this new client downloads other updates in this list in the background without any consent or notice of doing so.) KB 3083711 - New Update Client for Windows 8.1. No further details about it. (It is suspected this new client downloads other updates in this list in the background without any consent or notice of doing so.) KB 3102810 - Improvements to the New Update Client provided by KB3083710 KB 3102812 - Improvements to the New Update Client provided by KB3083711 KB 3112343 - Improves the Update Client when upgrading from 7 to 10 and provides MS with feedback on how smooth the process was. KB 3112336 - Improves the Update Client when upgrading from 8.1 to 10 and provides MS with feedback on how smooth the process was. KB 3123162 - This update adds capabilities to some computers that lets users easily learn about Windows 10 or start an upgrade to Windows 10. (read: "nags you with propaganda until you give-in") KB 3135445 - New Update Client for Windows 7 - February 2016. KB 3135449 - New Update Client for Windows 8.1 - February 2016. Linux laptop: record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up) |
Cosmic_Ocean Send message Joined: 23 Dec 00 Posts: 3027 Credit: 13,516,867 RAC: 13 |
Thank you to those who contributed KB numbers. This is a team effort, after all. I did finally find the update for win7 KMS hosts (these things usually come in pairs). Had to do some google searching and read through some technet articles to finally find it, so that one has been added to the list, as well. The changes to this list since version 5 include: KB 3058168 KB 3079821 KB 3123162 KB 3135445 KB 3135449 [edit: I think I have everything listed. I read through this thread since the v5 post and found what has been mentioned since. There was that one thread over on... overclockers(?), but that one seems to be a little overzealous and includes much more than it probably should. This list is focused on not having telemetry and spying features added to 7/8.1, but also not participating in the push to 10. That list from overclockers includes all the optional updates for things like Time Zone changes and currency symbol changes and so forth, as well.] (aside: it was entirely unintentional that the colors ended up being a symmetrical pattern for what was added since the last iteration.) Linux laptop: record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up) |
Shawn Rothermund Send message Joined: 13 Feb 03 Posts: 132 Credit: 79,997,445 RAC: 123 |
Thank you for all of your work keeping this list up to date it is a GREAT HELP I know that all of us are watching because of your list and our desire to thwart M$. So thanks again for all of your help. ME AND MY BOY LOOKING FOR ET |
Cosmic_Ocean Send message Joined: 23 Dec 00 Posts: 3027 Credit: 13,516,867 RAC: 13 |
This one KB 3123162 has the wrong number. It does not exist. Crap. Stupid typos. I'll ask a mod to fix it. Thanks for catching it. Linux laptop: record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up) |
Gordon Lowe Send message Joined: 5 Nov 00 Posts: 12094 Credit: 6,317,865 RAC: 0 |
This one KB 3123162 has the wrong number. It does not exist. Posts can only be completely hidden by moderators. We can't edit them. The mind is a weird and mysterious place |
Cosmic_Ocean Send message Joined: 23 Dec 00 Posts: 3027 Credit: 13,516,867 RAC: 13 |
This one KB 3123162 has the wrong number. It does not exist. Really? I thought you guys could edit them, too. Hm. Guess I'll fix it and re-post. Thanks anyway. Linux laptop: record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up) |
Cosmic_Ocean Send message Joined: 23 Dec 00 Posts: 3027 Credit: 13,516,867 RAC: 13 |
"updates to avoid", version 6.2 (corrected a mis-typed KB #): (Red for 8.1, Blue for 7, Green for either/both): KB 2952664 - Labeled a compatibility upgrade for upgrading Windows 7, its purpose is to "make improvements to the current operating system in order to ease the upgrade experience to the latest version of Windows". KB 2957026 - This update makes feature changes and improvements to the Windows 8.1 Upgrade notification in Windows 8 or Windows RT. After you install this update, the upgrade will be more discoverable and faster. KB 2976978 - A compatibility update for Windows 8.1 and Windows 8 which "performs diagnostics on the Windows system [..] to determine whether compatibility issues may be encountered when the latest Windows operating system is installed. KB 2977759 - This update performs diagnostics on the Windows systems that participate in the Windows Customer Experience Improvement Program. These diagnostics help determine whether compatibility issues may be encountered when the latest Windows operating system is installed. This update will help Microsoft and its partners ensure compatibility for customers who want to install the latest Windows operating system. KB 2990214 - Does the same as KB 3044374 but on Windows 7. KB 3021917 - Does the same as KB 2976978 but on Windows 7. KB 3022345 - Update to enable the Diagnostics Tracking Service in Windows (Windows 7 SP1, Windows 8.1) KB 3035583 - This update installs the "Get Windows 10" notification on Windows 7 SP1 and Windows 8.1 KB 3044374 - This update for Windows 8.1 enables systems to upgrade from the current operating system to a later version of Windows. KB 3050265 - This update makes improvements to the Update client to increase scanning speed, and to improve the upgrade to later versions of Windows. Also provides the registry keys to disable upgrading to 10. KB 3050267 - Same as KB3050265 but for Windows 8.1. KB 3058168 - This update allows 8.1 Key Management Service (KMS) hosts to upgrade to 10. KB 3065987 - This article describes an update that contains some improvements to Windows Update Client in Windows 7. KB 3065988 - Same as KB3065987, but for Windows 8.1. KB 3068708 - This update introduces the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to existing devices. KB 3075249 - This update adds telemetry points to the User Account Control (UAC) feature to collect information on elevations that come from low integrity levels. KB 3075851 - This article describes an update that contains some improvements to Windows Update Client in Windows 7 and also resolves an issue in which certain Windows Update operations fail when you install (KB3065987) on Windows 7 Embedded editions. KB 3075853 - Same as KB3075851, but for Windows 8.1. KB 3079821 - Same as KB3058168, but for Windows 7. KB 3081954 - This update ensures users can continue using Work Folders when upgrading from Windows 7 to 10. Also adds telemetry points to Work Folders for Asimov telemetry pipeline. KB 3080149 - This package updates the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to existing devices. KB 3083324 - Windows Update Client for Windows 7 - August 2015. KB 3083325 - Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1 - August 2015. KB 3083710 - New Update Client for Windows 7. No further details about it. (It is suspected this new client downloads other updates in this list in the background without any consent or notice of doing so.) KB 3083711 - New Update Client for Windows 8.1. No further details about it. (It is suspected this new client downloads other updates in this list in the background without any consent or notice of doing so.) KB 3102810 - Improvements to the New Update Client provided by KB3083710 KB 3102812 - Improvements to the New Update Client provided by KB3083711 KB 3112343 - Improves the Update Client when upgrading from 7 to 10 and provides MS with feedback on how smooth the process was. KB 3112336 - Improves the Update Client when upgrading from 8.1 to 10 and provides MS with feedback on how smooth the process was. KB 3123862 - This update adds capabilities to some computers that lets users easily learn about Windows 10 or start an upgrade to Windows 10. (read: "nags you with propaganda until you give-in") KB 3135445 - New Update Client for Windows 7 - February 2016. KB 3135449 - New Update Client for Windows 8.1 - February 2016. Linux laptop: record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30970 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Just a dumb question, does all this update avoidance take more time than hitting a close box on a advert once a day, and unchecking a box in optional updates once a week? |
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