I'll stick with XP and the flying toasters.
One should eventually be sent to me with a Seti logo on it............

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"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

In 2014 I bought a HP PC with Windows 8 installed, no disk. Then it was updated to 8.1, then to Windows 10, always no disk. I made a backup of Windows 8, could not do it on 8.1. When Windows 10 arrived, thanks to Microsoft, I made a repair DVD disk and used it once. Now I have a 1 TB external USB disk and made a full backup on it.
Tullio

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Windows 10 to Scan User Emails

Windows virtual assistant Cortana will soon step up scanning of emails by default, in order to make Cortana more useful. Whether its an improvement or a sign of creepiness on Microsoft's part is up for debate. The announcement comes almost 3 years to the date, where Microsoft publicly launched a campaign named "Don't get scroogled by Gmail." In that campaign, Microsoft complained that Google's email scanning practice was unjust.

#JustSayNoToWindows10

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Not a big surprise really, after the hack attempts on my main development machine (Win7). Coudl have been better ways to coax me to Win10, and now they decide to make an enemy.... Top move m$

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"Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions.

Just checking my e-mails as not done so for a few weeks :-) Got this: -

Windows 10 Will be automatically installed on most Win 7 & Win 8.1 systems next year says MS - Really? HELLO Linux!

MS details how to block Win 10 Update

Win 10 block options

Edit: -

Some folks might like this...

GWX Control Panel

GWX CP Guide

Edit 2: Lovely little program. 30 secs + reboot , system now more responsive :-)

Yeah, good luck with that m$. No doubts they'll incorporate the majority, but to get that they sacrifice the public trust, and good will. Is it worth it to them ? Obviously they think so.

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"Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions.

Love Doctor Who. Wish I could be River Song :))

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River Song (aka Linda Latte on planet Earth)
"Happy I-Phone girl on the GO GO GO"

Just checking my e-mails as not done so for a few weeks :-) Got this: -

Windows 10 Will be automatically installed on most Win 7 & Win 8.1 systems next year says MS - Really? HELLO Linux!

MS details how to block Win 10 Update

Win 10 block options

Edit: -

Some folks might like this...

GWX Control Panel

GWX CP Guide

Edit 2: Lovely little program. 30 secs + reboot , system now more responsive :-)

Greetings Sirius,

I am finding it exceedingly impossible to trust ANYTHING coming out of Redmond these days. :\

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

So, I can block the Win 10 upgrade to my Win 7 Pro PC by following the steps in the "Computer Configuration" part of your link?

Question: What about Win 7 owners who run Windows Virtual PC in order to run Windows XP Mode ?? Would M$ DARE 'shut off' this Win 7 feature ? It used it to 'sell' Win 7 to business owners who wanted to keep running old XP programs.

Step 1 says: Click Computer Configuration.

How to you FIND "Computer Configuration?" I tried Start / Control Panel and other things on Win 7 Pro and find nothing? Perhaps I'm mistaken and its listed on something else from M$, or? :)

Thank you!

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River Song (aka Linda Latte on planet Earth)
"Happy I-Phone girl on the GO GO GO"

So, I can block the Win 10 upgrade to my Win 7 Pro PC by following the steps in the "Computer Configuration" part of your link?
...
How to you FIND "Computer Configuration?"

If you ask questions like that - better change your mind and:
Use GWX Control Panel - the author (Ultimate Outsider) can be trusted.
Just reading the docs/Guide shows for me he is knowledgeable and honest.

It (GWX Control Panel) sets the same Settings described + can monitor if they are changed again by Windows at later time


Reputation of the site (by users/visitors):
https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/ultimateoutsider.com

GWX_control_panel.exe scan (Detection ratio: 0 / 54)
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/d11ecbfbaaffc58d26594923cdd096defed0e081eeade05b65a4173f1866ad42/analysis/


If you still want the "manual way" (but it changes only one thing of many; and Windows update may change it back any time (people say)):
Win+R
gpedit.msc

Policy path: Computer Configuration / Administrative Templates / Windows Components / Windows Update
Setting: Turn off the upgrade to the latest version of Windows through Windows Update

(Do you understand the above? If not -go for GWX Control Panel)

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- ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :)
 

Thank you for trying, but, at first look, the 'GWX Control Panel' web is as clear as mud. :( I wish I had the time to study it but do not. I find it difficult to understand WHY it has to be so murky? I would think if M$ truly wanted to offer you an 'out' from their insidious plans to destroy computers using other than its awful Win 10 it would do so.

What this is telling me is that months and months of effort by many in removing or trying to remove all of the "KB upgrades" so they can keep the OS they want has all been WASTED and they will be forced into Win 10 despite their objections. I almost destroyed my PC trying to remove "KB updates."

Also, as I posted, Win 7 WAS promoted by M$ by telling the huge number of XP Users that they could keep their treasured Win 7 programs if they would only buy the latest and greatest Win 7. So now, with this forced automatic Win 10 'upgrade' we lose that? Its awful and unfair. M$ did create Win Virtual PC but altho its a help, it did NOT allow ALL XP programs to run in Win 7. It shut off access to the hi-res graphics screen which killed a number of highly graphics intensive engineering programs that I, and others used.

What an awful state of affairs. It's very discouraging.

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River Song (aka Linda Latte on planet Earth)
"Happy I-Phone girl on the GO GO GO"

Thank you for trying, but, at first look, the 'GWX Control Panel' web is as clear as mud. :( I wish I had the time to study it but do not. I find it difficult to understand WHY it has to be so murky? I would think if M$ truly wanted to offer you an 'out' from their insidious plans to destroy computers using other than its awful Win 10 it would do so.

What this is telling me is that months and months of effort by many in removing or trying to remove all of the "KB upgrades" so they can keep the OS they want has all been WASTED and they will be forced into Win 10 despite their objections. I almost destroyed my PC trying to remove "KB updates."

Also, as I posted, Win 7 WAS promoted by M$ by telling the huge number of XP Users that they could keep their treasured Win 7 programs if they would only buy the latest and greatest Win 7. So now, with this forced automatic Win 10 'upgrade' we lose that? Its awful and unfair. M$ did create Win Virtual PC but altho its a help, it did NOT allow ALL XP programs to run in Win 7. It shut off access to the hi-res graphics screen which killed a number of highly graphics intensive engineering programs that I, and others used.

What an awful state of affairs. It's very discouraging.

GWX Control panel just WORKS.

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I Desire Peace and Justice, Jim Scott (Mod-Ret.)

I agree. I just skimmed the documentation. I installed it and it detected that I've been good at hiding bad updates. I like it.

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The Universe is not only stranger than you imagine, it's stranger than you can imagine.

SETI@home classic workunits 1,405 CPU time 57,318 hours

Not specifically win10 related.. but at the same time.. it's not unrelated.

Ten Immutable Laws of Security

Specifically:

Law #2: If a bad guy can alter the operating system on your computer, it's not your computer anymore.

Doesn't that sound like.... MS when they release updates? Even more ironic that this essay is on technet.



Just thought I would share that with you all. :)

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Linux laptop:
record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up)

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-starts-pushing-windows-10-as-a-recommended-update/

Microsoft is stepping up its Windows 10 push by making the OS a 'recommended' -- though not required -- update for Windows 7 and 8.1 users, beginning February 1.

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http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-starts-pushing-windows-10-as-a-recommended-update/

Microsoft is stepping up its Windows 10 push by making the OS a 'recommended' -- though not required -- update for Windows 7 and 8.1 users, beginning February 1.

I think at least one of my machines is perfectly safe from the Windows 10 "update".

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SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours
Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[

Yeah I completely broke my Windows update somehow, and I'm not too sad about that, lol.

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"Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions.

Immutable Rules of the PC
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Rule #1 All rules herein are immutable
Rule #2 M$ loves you and would never hurt you.
Rule #3 If a rule is questioned see Rule #1

In regard M$...
Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Big Brother, aka M$, and his minions look down their noses at you. You must comply! Resistance is futile. Obey, powerless human! You are a member of the hive. Submit and be assimilated.



One SIMPLE question, OK?

If M$ truly wanted to treat you fairly, and not abuse its power over you, why not put a "check box" under Start / Control Panel / System & Security / Windows Update ? It would say: Allow no change to my OS if this box is unchecked.

In regard "cures and fixes" for undesired actions by M$. A check box is ALL that is needed. Any "fixes" on par with a "doctoral dissertation" are more a turn-off than a turn-on.

If a complex set of instructions is proposed that works, at this moment in time, to obfuscate M$. It is certain M$ will see it and institute changes requiring a new set of instructions. M$ has absolute power over your PC. He loves you and only wants to save you from yourself and your foolish ways.

In the limit, the perversity of M$ tends to infinity.

I would propose a corollary: Any good fix to undesired updates is the essence of simplicity.

No offense intended, but, IMHO, "fixes" to thwart the will of M$ is, just possibly, an exercise in futility. It's like doing the same thing over and over, and expecting a different result. The "fixes" only give you hope until M$ brings you back to reality.

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River Song (aka Linda Latte on planet Earth)
"Happy I-Phone girl on the GO GO GO"

-[ snip ]-

No offense intended, but, IMHO, "fixes" to thwart the will of M$ is, just possibly, an exercise in futility. It's like doing the same thing over and over, and expecting a different result. The "fixes" only give you hope until M$ brings you back to reality.

Greetings Linda,

Non taken. :)

My reality does not correlate with Micro$ofts reality. My reality is that my PC is MY PC. I paid for the parts to build it, not M$. If they want claim to it, they better fork over some moola, and a lot of it. ;)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

My reality is that my PC is MY PC. I paid for the parts to build it, not M$.

But you paid only for a license of Windows, Microsoft can retract that license, or like they're doing here, they can change that license to a newer version.

Long or short, the Windows on your system is never yours, doesn't matter if you paid several hundreds of dollars for it, or only tens. It's always Microsoft's and thus they can do with it what they want.

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