every time i'm in italy it kills me a little bit to have to deal with my wife's(italian) parents 20mb connection(fastest available where they live) :p we live in Switzerland,500mb connection.. i feel for you, man

Since all of the CRAP with Win10 NSA edition I am running a triple boot system 1 drive for win7 pro(my daily driver updates off) 1 drive with ubuntu 14.04 and 1 drive with mint 17.2 rafaela cinnamon desktop. I am liking both but am leaning toward mint the only problem right now is when working with either one it cuts into my crunching time since I do not want to switch over completely just yet I would like to take some time to LEARN before that but I do see one or the other being my OS of the future. I am working with the 64 bit version of both and it is making me think real hard about upgrading my 7 to 64 bit(currently 32 bit hardware not up to it at the time but is now)

*1 driving ubuntu myself on a Win 8 laptop that I wiped. So far so good, going to try running some Win programs using wine. I see a steep learning curve for a while in my financial software, gnucash could be good when I learn it.

I have used wine for a couple of my games that I like and no problems so far will be trying some other stuff as well do not foresee any issues but do have some time before support for 7 runs out.

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ME AND MY BOY LOOKING FOR ET

In Milano and Bologna you can have a 100 Mbit/s connection on fiber. Th City of Milano had a fiber network in underground cables and a woman mayor sold it because, she said, everybody has a cell phone and fiber is not necessary.
Tullio

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Since all of the CRAP with Win10 NSA edition I am running a triple boot system 1 drive for win7 pro(my daily driver updates off) 1 drive with ubuntu 14.04 and 1 drive with mint 17.2 rafaela cinnamon desktop. I am liking both but am leaning toward mint the only problem right now is when working with either one it cuts into my crunching time since I do not want to switch over completely just yet I would like to take some time to LEARN before that but I do see one or the other being my OS of the future. I am working with the 64 bit version of both and it is making me think real hard about upgrading my 7 to 64 bit(currently 32 bit hardware not up to it at the time but is now)

What makes you think that the NSA cant read Linux systems?
Just because Linux doesnt get hacked, As often as win whatever does. It sure dosent mean it cant be hacked.
If Big Gov wants to read your E-mail, I dont care what OS you run, Its getting read.
How ever I do find that mining and selling to others the info gleaned from what you surf is totally out of line.

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Old James

Tuesday. September 22nd. 2015 @5.52 AM. [GMT-0800]. Day of year = 265

HOW TO EASILY RECOGNIZE MICROSOFT UNWANTED "UPDATES" ??

Hi All,

I have a new Win 7 Pro 64-bit machine. I've noticed in the past few days that, every morning, after a nightly scan, I get advised by my MalwareBytes program that Microsoft wants to install one or more PUP's, (Potentially Unwanted Programs), in my PC. The one this morning was a registry key.

I try to identify every one, and if its not a 'hack stopper,' I tell MalwareBytes to put it in a virus vault.

I've never ever received an "upgrade to free Win 10" message and I think this is why?

It would be nice if SETI ever ever starts processing all the data we are sending to it. So many here do so much to help. I need, and some of you may feel the same, a little ROI, "Return on our Investment" of PC time. No offense, there must be a reason nothing is happening? My rant is done and I will go stand in the corner and be quiet. :)

Linda (Retro girl, aka poodle skirts, bobbie socks & 50's music)

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River Song (aka Linda Latte on planet Earth)
"Happy I-Phone girl on the GO GO GO"

Can you believe this?...


Is Windows 10 slurping too much data? No, says Microsoft. Nuh-uh. Nope

Is Windows 10 spying on you by grabbing all sorts of personally identifying data about you without your permission? Not at all, claims Redmond.

On Monday, Microsoft OS boss Terry Myerson let fly a blog post explaining that all the Sturm und Drang on blogs and in the media about Windows 10's data collection policies is unfounded – although he did admit that the OS does regularly phone home by default...



IT is what we choose it to be...
Martin

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See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)

TimeLord04 wrote:

Ageless wrote:

I've installed KB3035583 to see if this one does the push-download on its own. I doubt it, but am testing this for a web-magazine. Arstechnica is saying that this update alone is responsible for the push-download.

But seeing how many of the diagnostic & telemetry updates there are, wouldn't these work together with KB3035583? Because that way MS can snoop on your system, see if certain updates are there yet, see if they downloaded the WinX upgrade files to you yet and if not... send them.

As I have responded to others here and elsewhere. It TAKES TIME for KB3035583 to pick up and show you the "Get Win 10" Icon. Sometimes 24 Hrs later it kicks in, sometimes over a week goes by. KB3035583 first goes over your existing hardware to make sure it is all compatible with Win 10. Then at some point it decides to show you the "Get Win 10" icon. So, be patient, give it time, the icon will show up.

It's been 15 days. The only two precarious KBs I have installed are KB3035583 and KB3065987, the latter with the group policy stating "do not update to a newer Windows" disabled. Windows Updates is still set to "tell me about them but don't download or install until I say so".

I have never had the GWX icon.
Microsoft has not downloaded the WinX setup files to my C: drive again.

And I am sure that that is because I have none of the telemetry updates installed. Without those there's no way for my Windows 7 to send data possibly gathered by KB3035583 back to GWX HQ.

MS will probably find other ways to try to get WinX on my system, but I am now reasonably sure it won't be through the aforementioned KBs only. So Arstechnica is wrong in stating that you only need KB3035583 to get the Windows 10 setup files pushed onto your system.

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Yea on the Windows 10 question.

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My Windows 10 PC has the habit of rebooting all by itself, with no apparent reason (it has a 20 GB RAM). This brings havoc to my Virtual Machines running CERN orojects like vLHC@home, ATLAS@home and CMS-dev, plus the CERN Summer Challenge which now should become the CERN Fall Challenge in a few days. Other BOINC projects, not using Virtual Box, go on.
Tullio

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My Windows 10 PC has the habit of rebooting all by itself, with no apparent reason (it has a 20 GB RAM). This brings havoc to my Virtual Machines running CERN orojects like vLHC@home, ATLAS@home and CMS-dev, plus the CERN Summer Challenge which now should become the CERN Fall Challenge in a few days. Other BOINC projects, not using Virtual Box, go on.
Tullio

Greetings Tullio,

I only had Window$ 10 installed for 3 weeks so my knowledge of it is quite limited, but this sounds like the 'new feature' whereby we have no control of updates except for scheduling a reboot. Do you have updates set not to reboot automatically?

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Yes, I asked to be notified when an update needs a reboot, and I suspend all BOINC projects. I had one this morning, it was a cumulative update. But the PC reboots randomly, even when there is no update. It is a recent HP Pavilion 500 152-ea. My SUN workstation, vintage 2008, never reboots except whn I have an electric blackout. It runs SuSE Linux 13.1. My other Linux box, a HP 635 laptop running 24/7 since 2012, has a battery and survives blackouts.
Tullio

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Yes, I asked to be notified when an update needs a reboot, and I suspend all BOINC projects. I had one this morning, it was a cumulative update. But the PC reboots randomly, even when there is no update. It is a recent HP Pavilion 500 152-ea. My SUN workstation, vintage 2008, never reboots except whn I have an electric blackout. It runs SuSE Linux 13.1. My other Linux box, a HP 635 laptop running 24/7 since 2012, has a battery and survives blackouts.
Tullio

Greetings Tullio,

Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Your random reboots looks to me like just another reason, among many others, to ditch Window$ 10 and reinstall your previous version. Or, ditch Window$ completely and stick with Linux.

I have Linux Mint 17.2 installed as a dual boot OS on this PC. If and when I can figure out how to get many Window$ only programs to run in Wine, and other things of this nature, I will ditch Micro$oft and Window$ completely.

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

I found Windows 8 on the HP PC, soon updated to 8.1. I accepted the Windows 10 update just for curiosity. Since I am a SuSE Linux user, I am waiting for the next SuSE Linux release in Nuvember, called Leap 42.1. It should have some features of the SuSE commercial Version, SLES, which I had on the HP laptop when I bought it
Tullio

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Greetings Tullio and Siran.

But the PC reboots randomly, even when there is no update.

I have a custom built workstation that I've noticed does the same thing. Running Window$ 8.1. I installed Spybot Anti-beacon and have not seen a reboot since (2 weeks) which leads me to believe it was something to do with M$'s telemetry and data collection, Anti-beacon blocks the communication and the offending host sites.

If and when I can figure out how to get many Window$ only programs to run in Wine, and other things of this nature, I will ditch Micro$oft and Window$ completely.

I'm going the same route with Ubuntu and am presently working on Quicken under Wine with the same end goal.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

I'm still using Windows 10 on my daily driver and I've not had my computer reboot itself ever. I've manually restarted it after software installs, but it has never rebooted on its own.

I have Win 10 on my other computer, I have locked it down as far as I can get it and it has not done any random restarts either.

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I'm still using Windows 10 on my daily driver and I've not had my computer reboot itself ever. I've manually restarted it after software installs, but it has never rebooted on its own.

Yes same here

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Thanks Siran and dg. I've stopped all remote connections and I sahll wait and see.
Tullio

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For those of you that might have or are thinking about obtaining an ASUS Android based smart phone -- BE AFRAID, BE VERY AFRAID !!
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/microsoftasus-broaden-patent-licensing-engagement.html

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I don't buy computers, I build them!!

New news from Microsoft in this. In an interview with PCM Magazine (Dutch), they say:

De automatische download van Windows 10-upgradebestanden op Windows 7 en 8.1 gebeurt mét gebruikerspermissie, stelt Microsoft. Windows Update gebruiken komt neer op instemmen.

Het bedrijf zegt verder dat de systeemupdate (die de upgradebestanden binnenhaalt) is verstrekt aan klanten die óf een reservering voor Windows 10 hebben gedaan óf die automatische updates in Windows Update hebben geactiveerd.

Or,
The automatic download of Windows 10 upgrade files on Windows 7 and 8.1 happens with permission of the user, says Microsoft. Using Windows Update is tantamount to agreeing.

The company says further that the system update (which downloads the upgrade files) was given to clients who had either made a Windows 10 reservation OR who have Automated Updates enabled in Windows Update.

Which means that if you do not want Windows 10, but you do have automated updates enabled (which is the default setting), you will get the Windows 10 update files downloaded to your PC despite your wishes. It doesn't matter in this which of the mentioned KB updates you have installed, just allowing Automated Updates will already do it.

"De gedownloade bestanden zijn simpelweg een systeemupdate die een klant in staat stellen om een soepelere installatie-ervaring te hebben, zouden zij besloten om in de toekomst te upgraden naar Windows 10."

"The downloaded files are simply a system update which enable a client to have a simpler upgrade experience, when they would decide to upgrade to Windows 10 in the future."
Uhuh.

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