I saw this this morning and thought those of you that are having problems with Malware10 might be interested. http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/anti-beacon-for-windows-10-download.html It also works on Win 7 & 8.1. I'm thinking about downloading it and see what comes up on my Win 7.

I have installed and run the Spybot Antibeacon program(Cut The Line), with the following results. This is on 3 Win 8.1 machines.

25 telemetry hosts blocked

Telemetry Group Policy Blocked
Registry: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\DataCollection\AllowTelemetry

Consumer Experience Improvement Program (CEIP) Group Policy Blocked
Registry: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\SQMClient\Windows\CEIPEnable

Consumer Experience Improvement Program (CEIP)Scheduled Tasks Blocked
Task: Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser
Task: Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\ProgramDataUpdater
Task: Microsoft\Windows\Autochk\Proxy
Task: Microsoft\Windows\DiskDiagnostic\Microsoft-Windows-DiskDiagnosticDataCollector
Task: Microsoft\Windows\Customer Experience Improvement Program\Consolidator

So far no problems.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

I started carrying a smart phone, knowing full well what data was collected.

I still wonder about this though. I have got an Android 4.2.1 smart phone, only allow it to make contact through WIFI. After I factory reset the phone last month, I've installed a Data Usage Monitor app. This shows me that last month I used 2.88GB down and only 90.8KB up. For this month I am at 3.19GB down and only 66KB up.

I'd think those low up values are only internet control bytes, not personal data being sluiced away.

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On my Windows 10 PC I see lots of data going up to CERN programs such as vLHC@home, Atlas@home and, especially, CMS-dev which is a Beta project.
Tullio

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Making good on my promise of priority, 1st login and use of Firefox through Ubuntu, so far the hardest part was burning the ISO file correctly.

1st steps to byebye Micro$oft!

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

On my Windows 10 PC I see lots of data going up to CERN programs such as vLHC@home, Atlas@home and, especially, CMS-dev which is a Beta project.

Yeah, I'm still tuning that of course. We had a computing meeting today which was a bit more positive than earlier in the year. Things are probably going to change in the submission method, but I don't think the volunteers will see a difference -- I'm hoping it will make my part easier, though. I'm also starting to get some reaction to my plea for consistent jobs with minimal data return, just don't expect it Real Soon Now. I'm trying to retrieve recent data so that I can compare it with normal GRID jobs and report at a meeting at CERN next month. With a bit of luck I can get a publicly-available report out of it, which should please the volunteers.
(I realise this is more directed at CMS@Home, just reacting to tullio's comment.)
(As a consequence of my broadband woes, I can't run CatH at home myself -- not enough capacity. :-( )

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I just noticed something. I have been playing around with Windows 10, with most of the intrusive stuff turned off. I don't know if this has been mentioned in this thread, but here it is anyway. I previously had Windows 7 Ultimate, which led me to believe I would receive Windows 10 Professional. What I actually got is not the professional version, which explains why I haven't seen the extra control I was looking for based on this thread. I will be building a new computer next year, so I will be doing a clean install with a newly purchased copy of Win 10 Pro anyway. I just don't have the time to constantly uninstall/block updates that increase telemetry or data collection. I didn't realize I had the home edition until I looked on the computer stats page, and saw that others had the pro version, and I had the non-pro version. Rats.

Steve

Now, I am a bit more confused. I got home from work, and went to the Control Panel, and verified that I have Win 10 Pro. I don't know why it says different on the Seti pages.

Steve

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Warning, addicted to SETI crunching!
Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group.
GPUUG Website

I just noticed something. I have been playing around with Windows 10, with most of the intrusive stuff turned off. I don't know if this has been mentioned in this thread, but here it is anyway. I previously had Windows 7 Ultimate, which led me to believe I would receive Windows 10 Professional. What I actually got is not the professional version, which explains why I haven't seen the extra control I was looking for based on this thread. I will be building a new computer next year, so I will be doing a clean install with a newly purchased copy of Win 10 Pro anyway. I just don't have the time to constantly uninstall/block updates that increase telemetry or data collection. I didn't realize I had the home edition until I looked on the computer stats page, and saw that others had the pro version, and I had the non-pro version. Rats.

Steve

Now, I am a bit more confused. I got home from work, and went to the Control Panel, and verified that I have Win 10 Pro. I don't know why it says different on the Seti pages.

Steve

This is the home version.
Microsoft Windows 10

Core x64 Edition, (10.00.10240.00)

This is yours.
Microsoft Windows 10

x64 Edition, (10.00.10240.00)

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I just noticed something. I have been playing around with Windows 10, with most of the intrusive stuff turned off. I don't know if this has been mentioned in this thread, but here it is anyway. I previously had Windows 7 Ultimate, which led me to believe I would receive Windows 10 Professional. What I actually got is not the professional version, which explains why I haven't seen the extra control I was looking for based on this thread. I will be building a new computer next year, so I will be doing a clean install with a newly purchased copy of Win 10 Pro anyway. I just don't have the time to constantly uninstall/block updates that increase telemetry or data collection. I didn't realize I had the home edition until I looked on the computer stats page, and saw that others had the pro version, and I had the non-pro version. Rats.

Steve

Now, I am a bit more confused. I got home from work, and went to the Control Panel, and verified that I have Win 10 Pro. I don't know why it says different on the Seti pages.

Steve

This is the home version.
Microsoft Windows 10

Core x64 Edition, (10.00.10240.00)

This is yours.
Microsoft Windows 10

x64 Edition, (10.00.10240.00)

Then what is this?

Microsoft Windows 10
Professional x64 Edition, (10.00.10240.00)

I am seeing that in the computers statistics list, but not seeing that next to mine.

Steve

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Warning, addicted to SETI crunching!
Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group.
GPUUG Website

I started carrying a smart phone, knowing full well what data was collected.

I still wonder about this though. I have got an Android 4.2.1 smart phone, only allow it to make contact through WIFI. After I factory reset the phone last month, I've installed a Data Usage Monitor app. This shows me that last month I used 2.88GB down and only 90.8KB up. For this month I am at 3.19GB down and only 66KB up.

Awh crap, I read my app wrong. But good as well, because it's of course slightly impossible to have only got 91KB upload on 2.88GB download. But no, here I read everything wrong, as the upload for this was 241.2MB, the download was 2.45GB.

This month, the numbers are 3.36GB down and 452.7MB up.

Streaming video does eat up quite a bit of bandwidth. Sending large attachments on email also sucks up quite a bit of data.

The creepy one's usage was BOINC, which I do not use on my phone, but it managed to use 4.5MB all by itself. No projects attached but using bandwidth anyway. Uninstalled. :)

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I have a 20 Mbit/s ADSL, working at 15 Mbit/s. So I can run all CERN projects, plus SETI@home, plus Einstein@home, plus CPDN. All this on 2 Linux boxes and a Windows 10 PC.
Tullio

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Since all of the CRAP with Win10 NSA edition I am running a triple boot system 1 drive for win7 pro(my daily driver updates off) 1 drive with ubuntu 14.04 and 1 drive with mint 17.2 rafaela cinnamon desktop. I am liking both but am leaning toward mint the only problem right now is when working with either one it cuts into my crunching time since I do not want to switch over completely just yet I would like to take some time to LEARN before that but I do see one or the other being my OS of the future. I am working with the 64 bit version of both and it is making me think real hard about upgrading my 7 to 64 bit(currently 32 bit hardware not up to it at the time but is now)

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ME AND MY BOY LOOKING FOR ET

Since all of the CRAP with Win10 NSA edition I am running a triple boot system 1 drive for win7 pro(my daily driver updates off) 1 drive with ubuntu 14.04 and 1 drive with mint 17.2 rafaela cinnamon desktop. I am liking both but am leaning toward mint the only problem right now is when working with either one it cuts into my crunching time since I do not want to switch over completely just yet I would like to take some time to LEARN before that but I do see one or the other being my OS of the future. I am working with the 64 bit version of both and it is making me think real hard about upgrading my 7 to 64 bit(currently 32 bit hardware not up to it at the time but is now)

*1 driving ubuntu myself on a Win 8 laptop that I wiped. So far so good, going to try running some Win programs using wine. I see a steep learning curve for a while in my financial software, gnucash could be good when I learn it.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

every time i'm in italy it kills me a little bit to have to deal with my wife's(italian) parents 20mb connection(fastest available where they live) :p we live in Switzerland,500mb connection.. i feel for you, man

Since all of the CRAP with Win10 NSA edition I am running a triple boot system 1 drive for win7 pro(my daily driver updates off) 1 drive with ubuntu 14.04 and 1 drive with mint 17.2 rafaela cinnamon desktop. I am liking both but am leaning toward mint the only problem right now is when working with either one it cuts into my crunching time since I do not want to switch over completely just yet I would like to take some time to LEARN before that but I do see one or the other being my OS of the future. I am working with the 64 bit version of both and it is making me think real hard about upgrading my 7 to 64 bit(currently 32 bit hardware not up to it at the time but is now)

*1 driving ubuntu myself on a Win 8 laptop that I wiped. So far so good, going to try running some Win programs using wine. I see a steep learning curve for a while in my financial software, gnucash could be good when I learn it.

I have used wine for a couple of my games that I like and no problems so far will be trying some other stuff as well do not foresee any issues but do have some time before support for 7 runs out.

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ME AND MY BOY LOOKING FOR ET

In Milano and Bologna you can have a 100 Mbit/s connection on fiber. Th City of Milano had a fiber network in underground cables and a woman mayor sold it because, she said, everybody has a cell phone and fiber is not necessary.
Tullio

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Since all of the CRAP with Win10 NSA edition I am running a triple boot system 1 drive for win7 pro(my daily driver updates off) 1 drive with ubuntu 14.04 and 1 drive with mint 17.2 rafaela cinnamon desktop. I am liking both but am leaning toward mint the only problem right now is when working with either one it cuts into my crunching time since I do not want to switch over completely just yet I would like to take some time to LEARN before that but I do see one or the other being my OS of the future. I am working with the 64 bit version of both and it is making me think real hard about upgrading my 7 to 64 bit(currently 32 bit hardware not up to it at the time but is now)

What makes you think that the NSA cant read Linux systems?
Just because Linux doesnt get hacked, As often as win whatever does. It sure dosent mean it cant be hacked.
If Big Gov wants to read your E-mail, I dont care what OS you run, Its getting read.
How ever I do find that mining and selling to others the info gleaned from what you surf is totally out of line.

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Old James

Tuesday. September 22nd. 2015 @5.52 AM. [GMT-0800]. Day of year = 265

HOW TO EASILY RECOGNIZE MICROSOFT UNWANTED "UPDATES" ??

Hi All,

I have a new Win 7 Pro 64-bit machine. I've noticed in the past few days that, every morning, after a nightly scan, I get advised by my MalwareBytes program that Microsoft wants to install one or more PUP's, (Potentially Unwanted Programs), in my PC. The one this morning was a registry key.

I try to identify every one, and if its not a 'hack stopper,' I tell MalwareBytes to put it in a virus vault.

I've never ever received an "upgrade to free Win 10" message and I think this is why?

It would be nice if SETI ever ever starts processing all the data we are sending to it. So many here do so much to help. I need, and some of you may feel the same, a little ROI, "Return on our Investment" of PC time. No offense, there must be a reason nothing is happening? My rant is done and I will go stand in the corner and be quiet. :)

Linda (Retro girl, aka poodle skirts, bobbie socks & 50's music)

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River Song (aka Linda Latte on planet Earth)
"Happy I-Phone girl on the GO GO GO"

Can you believe this?...


Is Windows 10 slurping too much data? No, says Microsoft. Nuh-uh. Nope

Is Windows 10 spying on you by grabbing all sorts of personally identifying data about you without your permission? Not at all, claims Redmond.

On Monday, Microsoft OS boss Terry Myerson let fly a blog post explaining that all the Sturm und Drang on blogs and in the media about Windows 10's data collection policies is unfounded – although he did admit that the OS does regularly phone home by default...



IT is what we choose it to be...
Martin

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See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)

TimeLord04 wrote:

Ageless wrote:

I've installed KB3035583 to see if this one does the push-download on its own. I doubt it, but am testing this for a web-magazine. Arstechnica is saying that this update alone is responsible for the push-download.

But seeing how many of the diagnostic & telemetry updates there are, wouldn't these work together with KB3035583? Because that way MS can snoop on your system, see if certain updates are there yet, see if they downloaded the WinX upgrade files to you yet and if not... send them.

As I have responded to others here and elsewhere. It TAKES TIME for KB3035583 to pick up and show you the "Get Win 10" Icon. Sometimes 24 Hrs later it kicks in, sometimes over a week goes by. KB3035583 first goes over your existing hardware to make sure it is all compatible with Win 10. Then at some point it decides to show you the "Get Win 10" icon. So, be patient, give it time, the icon will show up.

It's been 15 days. The only two precarious KBs I have installed are KB3035583 and KB3065987, the latter with the group policy stating "do not update to a newer Windows" disabled. Windows Updates is still set to "tell me about them but don't download or install until I say so".

I have never had the GWX icon.
Microsoft has not downloaded the WinX setup files to my C: drive again.

And I am sure that that is because I have none of the telemetry updates installed. Without those there's no way for my Windows 7 to send data possibly gathered by KB3035583 back to GWX HQ.

MS will probably find other ways to try to get WinX on my system, but I am now reasonably sure it won't be through the aforementioned KBs only. So Arstechnica is wrong in stating that you only need KB3035583 to get the Windows 10 setup files pushed onto your system.

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Yea on the Windows 10 question.

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