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Message 1719601 - Posted: 28 Aug 2015, 13:46:25 UTC

After uninstalling the "convert win7/8 to nsa edition" (message 1719579)
updates, the Diagnostic tracking service was running like crazy
Please deactivate "Diagnostic Tracking Service" in your windows services.

If you don't care, leave it alone.
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Message 1719607 - Posted: 28 Aug 2015, 14:00:28 UTC - in response to Message 1719589.  


My PC is MY PC,

Nope, not with Win10... It's just "This PC" now :/
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Message 1719629 - Posted: 28 Aug 2015, 14:52:54 UTC - in response to Message 1719607.  


My PC is MY PC,

Nope, not with Win10... It's just "This PC" now :/


Unless you use W10privacy.
Its in german only for now but it disables everything.
Also the servers win wants to comunicate with. :)
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Message 1719644 - Posted: 28 Aug 2015, 15:36:30 UTC - in response to Message 1719594.  

t is looking more and more like Micro$soft is unintentionally alienating users from using their software and Operating System. Too bad that the majority of Windows users don't have a clue as to what Micro$oft is doing.


I'm assuming you meant intentionally? Surely they can't be too stupid to realize alienation would occur in the present climate worldwide regarding spying and data collection.
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Greetings DG,

No, I actually meant unintentionally. As arrogant as Micro$oft may be, I cannot see them intentionally alienating users from Windows.

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Message 1719652 - Posted: 28 Aug 2015, 15:51:16 UTC

Greetings,

Not to add to the 'conspiracy theory' flavor of this thread, but: ;)

I was thinking just a bit ago: Would Micro$oft stoop so low as to start pushing out updates with bogus descriptions yet the updates do the exact thing we are trying to prevent from happening, this because there are ways being publicly displayed on how to circumvent the 'SkyNet-ness' of Windows 10 and now being attempted with Win7 and 8.1?

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Message 1719655 - Posted: 28 Aug 2015, 15:58:35 UTC

I was thinking just a bit ago: Would Micro$oft stoop so low as to start pushing out updates with bogus descriptions yet the updates do the exact thing we are trying to prevent from happening, this because there are ways being publicly displayed on how to circumvent the 'SkyNet-ness' of Windows 10 and now being attempted with Win7 and 8.1?

Without doubt, why would they start being honest or ethical with their users now? Hopefully there are some rogue MCSE techs that will look at the code on updates and keep us informed.

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Message 1719667 - Posted: 28 Aug 2015, 16:45:30 UTC

http://hothardware.com/news/microsoft-hits-home-run-announces-75-million-installs-for-windows-10

Of course, they don't say how many people have since uninstalled it again.

Microsoft itself is projecting that there will be 1 billion devices running Windows 10 within two to three years.
That's scary.
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Message 1719707 - Posted: 28 Aug 2015, 18:56:39 UTC - in response to Message 1719603.  
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After uninstalling the "convert win7/8 to nsa edition" (message 1719579)
updates, the Diagnostic tracking service was running like crazy
Please deactivate "Diagnostic Tracking Service" in your windows services.

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Wow. No kidding. I noticed that one of those updates had snuck through my careful research, so I removed it yesterday. Saw this post, went to services and told it to stop running and it has been "stopping service..." for 15 minutes now and it is still running. Task manager shows that particular svchost.exe process has been using a full CPU core for the past 23 hours (since I uninstalled that one update). Uuuggggghhhh. Stop trying to commandeer MY machine, MS!

edit: that did the trick. Administrative command prompt:
taskkill /pid 1792 /F

(verify with task manager what the PID is for your particular case: services tab, look for DiagTrack and get the PID for it from there, if it refuses to stop on its own).
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Message 1719718 - Posted: 28 Aug 2015, 19:29:25 UTC

I suspect most of us here are dying breed.

This worries me a lot more than anything MS might do

Facebook has a billion users in one day

I suspect most of them posted pictures, told people where they were or where they were going, what time they would be home and when they will be on holiday and posted pictures of their pets and or kids.

So many Facebook users have little or nothing hidden. Peoples lives are there to see. If you doubt me how do you think I tracked down the Kenzie impersonator, via an open Facebook account where all the pictures were on show.

How many of those billion who use Win 10 will even care what MS does.

It is a new world where privacy is fast becoming a thing of the past.

Of course we don't like it, but I am not sure there is much we can do to stop it.
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Message 1719732 - Posted: 28 Aug 2015, 20:38:55 UTC - in response to Message 1719579.  

The updates in question are KB3068708, KB3022345, KB3075249, and KB3080149, and you can find their full description in the box after the jump.

I found only one of these on my machine. I uninstalled and hid it. I guess I'll have to keep an eye out for the others.
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Message 1719768 - Posted: 28 Aug 2015, 22:03:50 UTC

Greetings,

I am getting real tired of seeing this when I go to check for updates:



All I want to to check for updates and see if any are legit, that's it! :| Is there any way to truly getting rid of Win10?

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Message 1719770 - Posted: 28 Aug 2015, 22:07:29 UTC

All I want to to check for updates and see if any are legit, that's it! :| Is there any way to truly getting rid of Win10?


Found it last night in Installed Updates(I believe, should have written it down). Just uninstall and hide. Worked for me.

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Message 1719778 - Posted: 28 Aug 2015, 22:17:46 UTC - in response to Message 1719768.  

This was posted here some time ago.
It may not be completely up to date, but it worked for me.


Just uninstall, and hide the following updates, and you'll never be bothered again (until they push another upgrade update on you):

KB 3035583 - According to Microsoft, this update enables "additional capabilities for Windows Update notifications when new updates are available".
KB 2952664 - Labeled a compatibility upgrade for upgrading Windows 7, its purpose is to "make improvements to the current operating system in order to ease the upgrade experience to the latest version of Windows".
KB 2976978 - A compatibility update for Windows 8.1 and Windows 8 which "performs diagnostics on the Windows system [..] to determine whether compatibility issues may be encountered when the latest Windows operating system is installed.
KB 3021917 - Does the same as KB 2976978 but on Windows 7.
KB 3044374 - This update for Windows 8.1 enables systems to upgrade from the current operating system to a later version of Windows.
KB 2990214 - Does the same as KB 3044374 but on Windows 7.
KB 3022345 - Update to enable the Diagnostics Tracking Service in Windows (Windows 7 SP1, Windows 8.1)
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Message 1719781 - Posted: 28 Aug 2015, 22:22:33 UTC - in response to Message 1719732.  

I too only found one of these installed kb3068708 uninstalled it and 2 others kb3075249 and kb3080419 are listed as optional updates the other one kb3022345 I have not found anywhere yet. I do not understand why M$ is so hellbent on going after this unless as was posted elsewhere in this thread that they were asked or ordered to do it. These updates are on a list right in front of me so I will always look whenever there are any updates since my update settings are for notify only.
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Message 1719786 - Posted: 28 Aug 2015, 22:35:26 UTC - in response to Message 1719778.  

This was posted here some time ago.
It may not be completely up to date, but it worked for me.


Just uninstall, and hide the following updates, and you'll never be bothered again (until they push another upgrade update on you):

KB 3035583 - According to Microsoft, this update enables "additional capabilities for Windows Update notifications when new updates are available".
KB 2952664 - Labeled a compatibility upgrade for upgrading Windows 7, its purpose is to "make improvements to the current operating system in order to ease the upgrade experience to the latest version of Windows".
KB 2976978 - A compatibility update for Windows 8.1 and Windows 8 which "performs diagnostics on the Windows system [..] to determine whether compatibility issues may be encountered when the latest Windows operating system is installed.
KB 3021917 - Does the same as KB 2976978 but on Windows 7.
KB 3044374 - This update for Windows 8.1 enables systems to upgrade from the current operating system to a later version of Windows.
KB 2990214 - Does the same as KB 3044374 but on Windows 7.
KB 3022345 - Update to enable the Diagnostics Tracking Service in Windows (Windows 7 SP1, Windows 8.1)

There is only one kb number in common between this list and the one given earlier. Does anyone know for sure which ones we need to look out for?
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Message 1719800 - Posted: 28 Aug 2015, 22:52:45 UTC
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Add these two to the recently re-quoted list:
KB3075249 - adds telemetry points to consent.exe (sends your UAC decisions back to HQ)
KB3080149 - UTC update for "down-level" devices (??? whatever that means. It's a 16mb update and modifies a LOT of files), but also, it says right on the MS page that it adds telemetry and tracking to help with the upgrade process.

My friend that just decided to go back to 7 from 10 asked for a list of KBs to keep an eye out for, and I dug through several pages of this thread and came up with this list:

KB2952664
KB2976978
KB2990214
KB3021917
KB3022345
KB3035583
KB3044374
KB3068708
KB3075249
KB3080149

I think one or two of those are for 8.1, but have a 7 equivalent with a different number as well. But as far as I know, that's the most-complete list to avoid that I can come up with at the moment. I might be missing one or two, but I think that takes care of the bulk of them.

Edit: I think I just found another one or two:
KB2957026
KB2977759
KB3065987
KB3075851

I think that just about completes the list. Some are 8/8.1-only, some are 7-only, if that wasn't simple to understand in my previous wording.
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Message 1719803 - Posted: 28 Aug 2015, 22:59:01 UTC - in response to Message 1719800.  

Great idea.
I was about ask to compile a list like this.
If anyone has to add something to that list, please do so.

Maybe this should be in a permanent thread.
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Message 1719823 - Posted: 28 Aug 2015, 23:59:48 UTC - in response to Message 1719800.  

Thanks for the list it will be a big help since I will need to re-check my computers but I will also have to check my in-laws computer since they are not very tech savvy and the computer place they normally go to are a bunch of a**$%^#s they think that M$ security essentials is better than Norton and have removed Norton more than once even though my father-in-law has told them not to. So thanks for the list.
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Message 1719870 - Posted: 29 Aug 2015, 2:56:24 UTC - in response to Message 1719607.  

Hi Raistmer,


My PC is MY PC,

Nope, not with Win10... It's just "This PC" now :/


All you have to do is rename it:-)
I did, no problems at all.

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Message 1719876 - Posted: 29 Aug 2015, 3:37:51 UTC - in response to Message 1719800.  

KB2952664
KB2976978
KB2990214
KB3021917
KB3022345
KB3035583
KB3044374
KB3068708
KB3075249
KB3080149


KB2957026
KB2977759
KB3065987
KB3075851

I removed and hid all the updates in that list that I had. I ended up "Preparing to update windows" for more than an hour. Hard power crashed it. It worked after that. I have the list in a text file and I'll check any updates against it.
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