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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13736 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Gotta remember.....rerunning the installer will wipe out my command lines, right? Depends how you have it set up. For me, it has no effect on command line settings or on the number of WUs run as I use app_config.xml and the MB_commandline_xxx file for my settings which are untouched by the installer. And have the advantage of it you make a typo, they just don't work instead of trashing your whole cache (as happens with a booboo in app_info.xml). Grant Darwin NT |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13736 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
I'm not sure. Maybe someone who knows for sure whether the app_config.xml takes precedence over any other command line file will comment App_config.xml overrules app_info.xml I like to keep things simple, so my app_config.xml <app_config> <app> <name>setiathome_v8</name> <gpu_versions> <gpu_usage>1.00</gpu_usage> <cpu_usage>1.00</cpu_usage> </gpu_versions> </app> <app> <name>astropulse_v7</name> <gpu_versions> <gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage> <cpu_usage>1.0</cpu_usage> </gpu_versions> </app> </app_config> and I just put my command line values in mb_cmdline_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_SoG.txt The advantage of this is that when the next WU starts, it gets the changed values from mb_cmdline_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_SoG.txt straight away. If you have them in app_config.txt you have to exit & restart BOINC, or at the very least "Options, Read config files" in the Manager for the new values to take. With values hardwired in to app_info, exiting & restarting BOINC is the only way. Grant Darwin NT |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Ok everyone, Mark uses BOINC 6.10.58 (1 version lower than me) which rules out using the app_config.xml full stop as that is not supported until version 7.4.26. Cheers. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13736 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Ok everyone, Mark uses BOINC 6.10.58 (1 version lower than me) which rules out using the app_config.xml full stop as that is not supported until version 7.4.26. Ah, so app_config.xml is out, but he can still use the MB command line file and not have to play with app_info.xml to improve things there. Grant Darwin NT |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Ok everyone, Mark uses BOINC 6.10.58 (1 version lower than me) which rules out using the app_config.xml full stop as that is not supported until version 7.4.26. Yes I just use the AP & MB GPU command line txt files for tuning and the app_info.xml for just the basics like task count and core support. Cheers. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Thanks for the reminders...... I had totally forgotten that my older Boinc does not do app_config. Ya saved me the trouble of looking for it.....LOL. The command line files are what I have always used anyway, and they are doing the job correctly. And so is the AVX app, which I also would not have thought of without your kind suggestions. Thank you, and meow! "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Jimbocous Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1853 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349 |
FYI - MS just pushed new NVidia driver 388.13 for Win 10. Apparently this time it does include OpenCL, unlike any previous pushes of NV drivers. HOWEVER, any SoG 8.20 tasks fail with "postponed 30 seconds" message in task log, and will never start. Downloaded fresh 388.13 from NVidia site, had same result. so perhaps not just missing OpenCL. Fell back to 382.33 and am back in business. |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
FYI - MS just pushed new NVidia driver 388.13 for Win 10. Apparently this time it does include OpenCL, unlike any previous pushes of NV drivers. Sounds like 388.13 should go on "Do not use for SETI@home" list. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
juan BFP Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 9786 Credit: 572,710,851 RAC: 3,799 |
I use 388.13 (64buit international) for Win 10 with no problem. Did you DL the driver directly from NV site? Install with the clean instalation option? |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13736 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
FYI - MS just pushed new NVidia driver 388.13 for Win 10. Apparently this time it does include OpenCL, unlike any previous pushes of NV drivers. Even after a reboot? Grant Darwin NT |
Jimbocous Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1853 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349 |
I use 388.13 (64buit international) for Win 10 with no problem. Juan and Grant: yes - always DL the driver directly from NV site yes - always Install with the clean option? yes - always Reboot after installs After having donethis innumerable times on 6 crunchers ..... |
juan BFP Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 9786 Credit: 572,710,851 RAC: 3,799 |
May i sugest do DL the international version, maybe something is diferent. Who knows?. At least is Working here normaly on my 3 hosts. |
Jimbocous Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1853 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349 |
May i sugest do DL the international version, maybe something is diferent. Who knows?. At least is Working here normaly on my 3 hosts. Thanks, it is indeed the International version I downloaded and installed. But there is something else strange going on, at this point. It looks as though it's now working properly on 1 of my Xeon boxes, but definitely doesn't work on the Core2Quad box. Still trying to determine why that is, and trying to make it fly on the second Xeon box as I try. |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
FYI - MS just pushed new NVidia driver 388.13 for Win 10. Apparently this time it does include OpenCL, unlike any previous pushes of NV drivers. I had to update from 384.94 in Windows 10 to 388.13 so the driver would recognize my new GTX 1070 Ti. Haven't had any issues with the 388.13 driver on that machine. My biggest concern today was that MS pushed the FCU at me. I had my doubts but the update went without any issues. And if MS put the Win10 version of 388.13 on my machine, I don't know how to tell if I still have my original manually installed 388.13 or a MS supplied version included in the update. My trepidation was relieved when I first ran my first instance of BOINC after the update was finished and BOINC found all my cards and OpenCL was initialized without any troubles. A big sigh of relief there. I know that I could have quickly stopped BOINC if it started to throw errors and reload the 388.13 drivers manually but fortunately I didn't have to. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Jimbocous Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1853 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349 |
Yeah, I dunno. Now I have 388.13 running OK on both Xeons, but no matter what I do I get run GPU work on the C2Q. Anybody know how to trigger resends? All my work now shows abandoned, due to having to rebuild a credentials file. |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
If the tasks are marked as Abandoned for your machine, I don't think there is anything you can do. I use the ghost recovery protocol all the time when the work gets lost between SETI and here but that is a different case. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Jimbocous Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1853 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349 |
If the tasks are marked as Abandoned for your machine, I don't think there is anything you can do. I use the ghost recovery protocol all the time when the work gets lost between SETI and here but that is a different case. Thanks, Keith. |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
All..........I just updated and the current release is 388.31 maybe a fix? "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Jimbocous Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1853 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349 |
So there's a 388.13 and a 388.31. Just realized I have one of each running ... Dyslexia really sucks, y'know? |
Cliff Harding Send message Joined: 18 Aug 99 Posts: 1432 Credit: 110,967,840 RAC: 67 |
The December 2017 update corrupted one or more of the databases concerning system updates that my machine has become non-effective. The corruption(s) cannot be fixed via the 'Troubleshooter', and it can take from 1- 3 hrs. to recycle the machine. Even the system restore, prior to the initial update attempt did not work correctly as it recycled the machine @ 00:15 this morning, and at 02:30 it was still attempting to shutdown, but was up this morning when I signed op at 08:20. I will be off-line for at least 24 hrs, as I attempt to do a complete clean re-install of the system. I don't buy computers, I build them!! |
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