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Message 1820353 - Posted: 29 Sep 2016, 1:04:51 UTC

Yesterday I had a major Windows 10 update, which changed my Windows from 1511 to 1607. I had to reinstall VirtualBox on it, so I updated it to the latest release but my nVidia driver for the Geforce GTX 750 OC remained unchanged. I had updated it using Geforce Experience to 372.90 and it remained unchanged.
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Message 1820386 - Posted: 29 Sep 2016, 4:23:21 UTC

Just got diverted to the new Outlook Mail to send an email...... what a P.O.S! More great thinking from the idiots in Redmond.

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Message 1820421 - Posted: 29 Sep 2016, 6:58:54 UTC - in response to Message 1820386.  

Just got diverted to the new Outlook Mail to send an email...... what a P.O.S! More great thinking from the idiots in Redmond.

Really gotta wonder what's in the air up there right now ...
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Message 1823494 - Posted: 11 Oct 2016, 5:14:57 UTC
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Just another heads-up about a potential issue. Back in July, I tried and failed on a Win10 free upgrade on one of my Win7 boxes. Failure was due to BIOS not supporting a required function even though the CPU did. No matter, Win7 is fine.

Have started having a lot of trouble with that machine recently, which I finally ran down to running out of disk space, for no good reason. After doing the normal things, like cleaning, checkdsk and the like, with no help, what I came to discover was that my C:\windows directory was greater than 90gb. Yep, 90+gb! Not good on a 120gb SSD, for sure, and pretty bloated even by M$ standards!.

A little more checking revealed that of that 90+gb, over 47gb of it was in C:\Windows\Temp. Since it should normally not be an issue, I deleted all contents of C:\Windows\Temp and got my 47gb back. This is not 100% safe, but it's very unlikely that anything essential will live there.

Only reason I mention this here is my suspicion that this happened due to a failure of GWX to clean things up properly when it aborted the Win 10 upgrade install. So if you tried and then failed or aborted a Win 10 upgrade, might check your disk space, especially the above folder.

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Message 1823516 - Posted: 11 Oct 2016, 10:32:14 UTC

Only reason I mention this here is my suspicion that this happened due to a failure of GWX to clean things up properly when it aborted the Win 10 upgrade install. So if you tried and then failed or aborted a Win 10 upgrade, might check your disk space, especially the above folder.

Same scenario occurred on a laptop I had given a friend. Older HP with 4Gb of ram and no way to expand. The 'automatic' upgrade to 10 from 7 failed and left less than 5Gb on the Hard drive. No room to uninstall so I had to wipe and reinstall the OS.

It's only used as an internet access portal so no important data was lost. I locked down the update function after running the June 'mass update'. So far in two months no more problems.

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Message 1824774 - Posted: 16 Oct 2016, 22:25:27 UTC

For those slugging away try to keep some control of their own Windows machines...

Is all the continued effort now rendered futile by the latest Microsoft development?


Like it or not, here are ALL your October Microsoft patches

Redmond kicks off the era of the force-fed security update

Microsoft is kicking off a controversial new security program this month by packaging all of its security updates into a single payload.

The October security release introduces Redmond's new policy of bundling all security bulletins as one download. While more convenient for end users, who now get just one bundle, the move will irk many administrators, who had preferred to individually test and apply each patch to avoid compatibility problems...



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Message 1824796 - Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 0:18:23 UTC

From my understanding, WSUS still gets the individual updates, as well as the rolled-up one. But truth be told... I turned Updates off on both of my machines.

I don't really see a point in continuing to get these updates, unless you still use IE and go to sketchy websites frequently. For those of us who excise a bit of caution and sense, we can basically run without updates or even A/V without issues--I know I did just that for a number of years back in the XP days, even with IE6. Someone called BS on the fact that I was using IE6 and had no A/V and claimed I had no infections, so I downloaded the A/V scanner they considered the best and ran a full system scan... it came up clean.

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Message 1825059 - Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 23:47:24 UTC

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Message 1825063 - Posted: 18 Oct 2016, 0:21:05 UTC - in response to Message 1824796.  

From my understanding, WSUS still gets the individual updates, as well as the rolled-up one. But truth be told... I turned Updates off on both of my machines.

I don't really see a point in continuing to get these updates, unless you still use IE and go to sketchy websites frequently. For those of us who excise a bit of caution and sense, we can basically run without updates or even A/V without issues--I know I did just that for a number of years back in the XP days, even with IE6. Someone called BS on the fact that I was using IE6 and had no A/V and claimed I had no infections, so I downloaded the A/V scanner they considered the best and ran a full system scan... it came up clean.

A little bit of caution goes a long way.

I haven't used AV software on my main home rig since the 90's. All I ever found AV good for is slowing down a perfectly good system and quarantining needed files from false positives.
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Message 1826597 - Posted: 24 Oct 2016, 23:40:20 UTC

Don’t install Nvidia driver 375.57 on Windows 10
    "Some symptoms observed by Windows 10 users was that Windows Store apps started to crash, that drag and drop operations in the Start Menu did not work as intended and were causing issues, and that videos and animated GIFs were showing artifacts."

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Message 1826601 - Posted: 25 Oct 2016, 0:02:06 UTC - in response to Message 1826597.  

Don’t install Nvidia driver 375.57 on Windows 10
    "Some symptoms observed by Windows 10 users was that Windows Store apps started to crash, that drag and drop operations in the Start Menu did not work as intended and were causing issues, and that videos and animated GIFs were showing artifacts."




I dropped this on 20 Oct, you might want to take a look at it http://-http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=80411#1825587


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Message 1826615 - Posted: 25 Oct 2016, 1:00:41 UTC - in response to Message 1824796.  


I don't really see a point in continuing to get these updates, unless you still use IE and go to sketchy websites frequently. For those of us who excise a bit of caution and sense, we can basically run without update

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Message 1826616 - Posted: 25 Oct 2016, 1:02:22 UTC

For some humor on the subject:

http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=377
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Message 1826657 - Posted: 25 Oct 2016, 9:29:48 UTC

I have installed Geforce driver 375.63 on my Windows 10 PC with GTX 750 OC and everything seems to work. I have processed a huge number of SETI@home GPU tasks of very short duration and they are all waiting for validation.
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Message 1826662 - Posted: 25 Oct 2016, 10:26:54 UTC - in response to Message 1826657.  
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I have installed Geforce driver 375.63 on my Windows 10 PC with GTX 750 OC and everything seems to work. I have processed a huge number of SETI@home GPU tasks of very short duration and they are all waiting for validation.
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372.90 has been working great for me, after Microsoft pushed 369.09, which was a train wreck. (no OpenCL support). I tend not to upgrade drivers unless there's a real need to do so, because most of those little updates have to do with gaming, not number crunching ...
Good info, though. Thanks.
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Message 1831242 - Posted: 18 Nov 2016, 17:07:06 UTC

Well call me stupid......

I ran the latest Update from Micro$oft on my Acer Iconia W510 Tablet running Win 8.1. After the update the tablet became unstable and would inadvertently shut down after prompting me to 'Activate Windows Security' despite Norton being installed. The machine would not remain stable long enough to allow me to roll back the updates so I'm now trying to restore to the original state (Windows 8 I'm assuming). It also looked like the update removed Spybot Anti Beacon from the system.......Hmmmmm.


I won't make that mistake again. No more Updates and I may just go to Ubuntu if it now supports touch tablets, anyone know?

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Message 1831265 - Posted: 18 Nov 2016, 19:22:36 UTC - in response to Message 1831242.  

No more Updates and I may just go to Ubuntu if it now supports touch tablets, anyone know?

Ubuntu supports the touch screen on my laptop.
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Message 1831266 - Posted: 18 Nov 2016, 19:25:20 UTC
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And ya know...........
7 on my daily driver has been strong and stable since I denied it updates when this debacle started.

Still working.

Ain't touchin' it.

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XP is still rockin' my other 7 crunchers....LOL.
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Message 1831277 - Posted: 18 Nov 2016, 19:48:59 UTC

Still pretty pleased with the stability improvements on Win 10 over Win 7 on the 4 crunchers that could run it.
Hate how the upgrade process was conducted, and sincerely hate Windows Defender, but other than that, 10 was the right decision for me.
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Message 1832272 - Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 22:33:07 UTC

Win 10 Home does not allow Remote Desktop Connection. I know there other methods (BoincTasks) but I liked seeing the Desktop.
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