I used to get spammed with telemarketers. I don't anymore. I was called definitely over 50x, maybe up to 100x before I figured it out. There's a simple secret to making them stop, because threats, anger, hangups don't work:

You have to waste as much of their time as possible.

Their hit to miss rate is so bad that their margins are always close to not making money, so they have internal do-not-call lists and the only thing on them are waste-of-time numbers. They'd rather keep calling multiple quick disconnects at the same number in the hopes they will get a sucker, but a few large wastes of their time and suddenly they stop calling.

I was being called by the vacation scammers, so I would press whatever number the robocaller asked to get a person who would barely speak English, then answer their questions up to the next (and most expensive!) level of the person who could speak reasonably good English and do their spiel.

I made sure I was free ie waiting or relaxing or on transit at the time so that I could stay on the line as long as it took while they babbled, always responding positively when prompted. It took over ten minutes each time. They left the credit card part to the last, and then I would feign bad signal and hang up.

I had to do this three times, and I never got one again, and this is going on five months, whereas I was getting two or three a week for months. Hope this helps someone.

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http://www.pcworld.com/article/3028541/privacy/tired-of-telemarketers-now-you-can-turn-the-tables-on-them-with-this-clever-bot.html

http://www.pcworld.com/article/206972/How_to_Sue_Telemarketers_and_Win.html

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I've heard a good way to answer a telemarketer's call is "...the job's done, but there's blood everywhere and I don't know what to do with the bodies....." then hang up.

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http://www.pcworld.com/article/3028541/privacy/tired-of-telemarketers-now-you-can-turn-the-tables-on-them-with-this-clever-bot.html

http://www.pcworld.com/article/206972/How_to_Sue_Telemarketers_and_Win.html

Every now and then I will get a robocall, but since I have my number registered with https://www.donotcall.gov/. I just report the number when I do get one.

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http://www.pcworld.com/article/3028541/privacy/tired-of-telemarketers-now-you-can-turn-the-tables-on-them-with-this-clever-bot.html

http://www.pcworld.com/article/206972/How_to_Sue_Telemarketers_and_Win.html

Every now and then I will get a robocall, but since I have my number registered with https://www.donotcall.gov/. I just report the number when I do get one.

You do know that there are some call centers that purchase the do not call list as a list of numbers to call. Mostly the ones that are offshore and thus don't have to obey the list.

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If you have telephone service that will support this (I use Vonage, which does. Sadly, my Sprint does not), NoMoRoBo is awesome. On average, I get 4-5 robocalls a week. Since I activated this, not a single one has gotten through, and the attempts have been reduced. Pretty decent, and free for residential users.
In case you're curious as to how it works, your current phone service must support simultaneous ring, i.e. the ability for you to define a second number to ring when someone calls you. When a call comes in, they compare the calling number to a database of robodialers they maintain. If there's a match, they answer the call, you never hear a second ring. If not, they drop out and you can answer or not as you choose. Pretty slick.
I love the Jolly Roger concept, but see two flaws. 1) It requires manual intervention to send a call to them, and 2) you are running up minutes of usage, if your service is metered. Still, I will have to add that to the bag of tricks for dealing with these swine!

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http://www.pcworld.com/article/3028541/privacy/tired-of-telemarketers-now-you-can-turn-the-tables-on-them-with-this-clever-bot.html

http://www.pcworld.com/article/206972/How_to_Sue_Telemarketers_and_Win.html

Every now and then I will get a robocall, but since I have my number registered with https://www.donotcall.gov/. I just report the number when I do get one.

You do know that there are some call centers that purchase the do not call list as a list of numbers to call. Mostly the ones that are offshore and thus don't have to obey the list.

Of course they do. It's they same thing teens did in the 90's with the apps that blocked the "naughty sites". Where they would d/l the software to get a list of sites to go to.
The legitimate call centers are normally not the problem anyway, but the last call I revived was from one. Last year there was some kind of vote going on regarding something with electric utility providers. However I didn't have a clue about the issue as my mobile number is from a state where I have not lived in over 10 years. Mobile lines, unlike land lines, are not permitted to have political robocalls.
When I still had a land line I would answer calls that had no Caller ID info like a business. "Thank you for calling XYZ corp. How may I direct your call?" The phone system had different voicemail boxes. So I had my sister record a greeting directing callers to "Press 1 for dept A, 2 for dept B" and so on. It resulted in some rather amusing messages, My favorite was someone calling about a job because their cousin worked there.

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If you have telephone service that will support this (I use Vonage, which does. Sadly, my Sprint does not), NoMoRoBo is awesome. On average, I get 4-5 robocalls a week. Since I activated this, not a single one has gotten through, and the attempts have been reduced. Pretty decent, and free for residential users.
In case you're curious as to how it works, your current phone service must support simultaneous ring, i.e. the ability for you to define a second number to ring when someone calls you. When a call comes in, they compare the calling number to a database of robodialers they maintain. If there's a match, they answer the call, you never hear a second ring. If not, they drop out and you can answer or not as you choose. Pretty slick.
I love the Jolly Roger concept, but see two flaws. 1) It requires manual intervention to send a call to them, and 2) you are running up minutes of usage, if your service is metered. Still, I will have to add that to the bag of tricks for dealing with these swine!

I, too, am on Vonage. Been with them since 2005; and got my parents on Vonage in 2008. Signed up for NoMoRobo last year. Some persistent robocallers have gotten through; they get blocked by NoMoRobo on their first attempt, get the NoMoRobo Blocked Call Message, then somehow they call back from their same number and get through. See, NoMoRobo actually has a "runaround" for schools and doctors' offices and such where they enter some code or something so they can perform their "Call Blast" and their services are then NOT blocked... Well the robocallers have tuned into this and are now using this "Call Blast" permission code. I've had this happen twice in the last week. I have reported the calls back to NoMoRobo for them to deal with.

Otherwise, NoMoRobo works as advertised. I'm quite pleased with it. When I set up my account with them, I added my parents' home line and dad's home business line to it. Now, all three lines are protected. In the NoMoRobo Account, each line is named; so, NoMoRobo is aware that dad's Home Business line is active with them. Thing with that is, the Home Business line is on a Vonage Residential Device, and serviced by Vonage Residential Services; they had NOT yet implemented their Enterprise Business Division... Now they have such an animal, but dad's business is small and inconsequential... So, I don't think NoMoRobo cares that this "business line" is registered with them.

Anyway, overall, the family is quite pleased with how Vonage and NoMoRobo work together. :-)


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I have used a T-Lock Phone blocker for several years, it works as advertised with a capacity of 1000 numbers. The shortcoming of such devices and services is due to VOIP and the ability of telemarketers/scammers to spoof any caller ID they choose. I have had several calls over the last year spoofing my own name and phone number.........very infuriating.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Also, last year, Vonage implemented Caller ID Blocking services of their own. (Originally only 25 numbers could be permanently blocked; now, 50.) You login to your Vonage Account, click on the Received Calls Tab to expand the recent incoming calls; then, above in Features, click Edit on the Call Block Feature. Now click Add (More) to add a number to be permanently blocked from calling you, then Save the list.

I make use of this; because NoMoRobo will allow robocallers one ring on your phone. So, if persistent robocallers call in every hour, or every day, (like I had going on for months, now), you can add these numbers to Vonage Caller ID Block and NEVER hear the phone ring from them again!!! :-)


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Why not just DUMP all your 'landline' phones and use a smart phone? My I-Phone has a 'Block Caller' feature and an app called 'NumberCop' that lets me identify bogus callers, lookup numbers, report a number, and other things. So much cheaper, I think it costs $1.98? It's less hassle than trying to keep a home phone telemarketer free? Just a thought? :)

Another nice thing is MY phone doesn't ring in the middle of the night with someone trying to sell me beach front property in the Everglades. :)

Stay here on Earth. It's the only planet with DARK CHOCOLATE !!

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Why not just DUMP all your 'landline' phones and use a smart phone? My I-Phone has a 'Block Caller' feature and an app called 'NumberCop' that lets me identify bogus callers, lookup numbers, report a number, and other things. So much cheaper, I think it costs $1.98? It's less hassle than trying to keep a home phone telemarketer free? Just a thought? :)

Another nice thing is MY phone doesn't ring in the middle of the night with someone trying to sell me beach front property in the Everglades. :)

Stay here on Earth. It's the only planet with DARK CHOCOLATE !!

Because I have friends around the world that I talk to, (included in my Vonage plan at $400/year), that I can call and talk to as LONG as I want... No roaming charges, no long distance fees, no international rates per minute... (Oh, and the $400/year includes all taxes and government fees.)

Vonage also has a feature called Vonage Extensions. (Primarily to attach a Cell Phone number to the calling features of your main line Vonage Account.) With VE, you call a US Vonage Access Number, (mostly numbers on the East Coast), enter your established 4-digit pin, then enter the International Number you wish to call, and you now are using your home Vonage Account on your Cell Phone... Two VE Numbers can be added for free to any Residential Vonage Customer on Vonage World Plan! If you have Nationwide Coverage on your Cell Phone; or, Unlimited Calling Plan - Nationwide, then even the Vonage Access Number is a free call to you on the Cell Phone... :-)

I am currently "sharing" my two free Vonage Extensions with my best friend in San Jose. His home phone is VE 1, and his wife's Cell Phone is VE 2. They make frequent calls to India and Belgium. For this access; he is paying me $50/year towards my Total Vonage Bill as a thank you for this service! I have saved him TONS of $$$ on International rates, and Calling Card Plans! :-)


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[EDIT:] Oh, and Vonage has FREE 411 Service on each Vonage World Account. :-)

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Why not just DUMP all your 'landline' phones and use a smart phone?

In my case, I've had the home number for >30 years, and would not want to miss contact with folks who only know that. Likewise, have had the cell number for >20 years and again many folks know only that. Finally, no matter who you're with, the cell coverage tends to be marginal where I live. Sounds weird for a techie, but I really don't want much more than an old "brick" for a cell phone, don't need more than to take or make a call. As a result, the cell is more vulnerable to these folks than the Vonage ...

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"Number Crunching Oddity" Any clue?

I really LOVE the SETI@Home Screen Saver. and it runs whenever I'm not at my keyboard 24/7/365. It is a lovely screen display and visitors to my home always are fascinated by it and ask about it. Hopefully, a few 'join our club' and help as we all do when our PC's are 'idle.'

I think, but do not know for certain, that we all process 8 different files concurrently, or at least I do? Do others do more or less? The data files were recorded by a variety of radio telescope sites like Arecibo, Green Bank, etc.

I'm used to what is presented on the display after several months of seeing it daily. Today I see an ODD display. Can anyone explain what I'm seeing?

Here is what I see:

Baseline Smoothing
Doppler drift rate 0.0000 Hz/sec
Resolution 1,#10 Hz
Green Bank 4-4-16

The 'box,' usually filled with random 'noise,' is empty. I only see an outline of a box with the usual technical parameters shown.

What is the above telling me? Maybe it's a BLANK data file? Hmmmm.

Stay here on Earth. It's the only planet with DARK CHOCOLATE !!

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"Happy I-Phone girl on the GO GO GO"

Also, last year, Vonage implemented Caller ID Blocking services of their own. (Originally only 25 numbers could be permanently blocked; now, 50.) You login to your Vonage Account, click on the Received Calls Tab to expand the recent incoming calls; then, above in Features, click Edit on the Call Block Feature. Now click Add (More) to add a number to be permanently blocked from calling you, then Save the list.

I make use of this; because NoMoRobo will allow robocallers one ring on your phone. So, if persistent robocallers call in every hour, or every day, (like I had going on for months, now), you can add these numbers to Vonage Caller ID Block and NEVER hear the phone ring from them again!!! :-)


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I have been using a product called “Digitone Call Blocker Plus” for the last year or so and although it is a little pricey ($100) , I have been very happy with it. It has first ring suppression so no ring on blocked numbers, blocks up to 140 numbers, and does wild cards. I no longer receive calls from area codes 202, 800, 844, 855, 866 , 877, and 888. It also can be set block those pesky “Out of Area” calls with no numbers. The only down side is that it has so many features and ways you can use it, you really have to be a techie type to get the best out of it.

I used to use a product called “Caller ID Manger” which worked in a similar way and also had first ring suppression, but lightning on the phone line finally zapped it after several years of use and by then they had stopped making it. I went through several more years of telephone agony looking for another product with first ring suppression until this one came along.

I have no connection with either product other than using them.

One more reason to bash M$

“Microsoft stops Google being used for Cortana searches”

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36168857

One more reason to bash M$

“Microsoft stops Google being used for Cortana searches”

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36168857

Greetings DSH,

Nothing is sacred anymore... where Micro$oft is concerned. They do not want end users to have choice. They want to dictate how end users live in the digital age. That is why I CHOSE to stay with Win7 and turned off Windows Updates. I like to choose what I do digitally and what I use to do it. :)

Google search: 90% Bing search: 3%

That article shows just another reason NOT to switch to Winblows 10. :)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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Nothing is sacred anymore... where Micro$oft is concerned. They do not want end users to have choice. They want to dictate how end users live in the digital age. That is why I CHOSE to stay with Win7 and turned off Windows Updates. I like to choose what I do digitally and what I use to do it. :)

Google search: 90% Bing search: 3%

That article shows just another reason NOT to switch to Winblows 10. :)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

I listened to a radio program the othe night

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07875zc The force of Google.

Microsoft is not the only one that could do with being cut down to size.

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Nothing is sacred anymore... where Micro$oft is concerned.

Not true.
The fiduciary duty to the shareholders is sacred. The best way to serve that is to be a monopoly and monetize every possible thing, and make all things rented and not owned.
<ed>I suppose I should add that using your power to prevent your customer from finding out there is competition is also part of the duty to the shareholder.

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