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Message 1782397 - Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 15:46:08 UTC - in response to Message 1782366.  

So that MS will know even the content of your fridge? ;-)

If I had a Raspi3 (actually I have 2 of the first series. 1 of the actual first batch to be sold), I would never use Win10 on it.
With all the stuff available in Linux or python, I cannot see a reason to have MS tampering my (or anyone's) fridge.

I cross all fingers that developers will not fall in the MS "we have it all ready smooth shiny spic&span for the IoT" trap.

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Message 1782410 - Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 16:43:01 UTC
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Greetings,

Looks like there will be no getting away from Winblows 10!

I can see it now (for those still getting updates from Microcrud): "This is your update program speaking. If you do not stop using this outdated Operating System, I will sabotage it so that it will no longer run and you will have no choice but to use Windows 10. It's your choice."

Click your choice: [Keep the old] [Move on to Windows 10]

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Message 1782411 - Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 17:16:14 UTC - in response to Message 1782397.  

At least with the fridge, it's doable. With your car... "Please find a safe spot to stop, so Windows can reboot to finalize installing new drivers for the sensor array of the turbo injector".
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Message 1782413 - Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 17:25:52 UTC - in response to Message 1782411.  

I do not know if it was powered by MS, but once I was in a plane, waiting for take off.

They announced that they would reboot the system because something was not in order. You know, really like alt-ctrl-del.

Lights went off for a moment, all systems down, and slowly the plane regained life in a few minutes.

We arrived safely at destination, but that feeling was not one of the sweetest.
I love flying, by the way. Nothing usually scares me, more so it may amuse me. But these itches make you think for an instant.

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Message 1782917 - Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 14:03:11 UTC - in response to Message 1782411.  

At least with the fridge, it's doable. With your car... "Please find a safe spot to stop, so Windows can reboot to finalize installing new drivers for the sensor array of the turbo injector".


lol... then when it finally restarts you get the (not so famous) BSOD with hex-code dump and informed to contact your nearest Automotive Dealer's help desk (repair shop) with the error code in order to have your vehicle towed so they can (attempt to) resolve the error message.
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Message 1782918 - Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 14:16:47 UTC
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A panicked friend contacted me this morning, where he said his (Win7) laptop became 'possessed' and unusable. I said probably just m$ breaking it during the win10 update compatibility checks. He says he had updates disabled, yeah right, lol. I then relayed a lot of what's happened over the last 6 months, and he was pretty skeptical, then did his own research and is shocked enough to dump m$ altogether now.

He was familiar with Redhat Linux many moons ago, so I suggested he could try out Fedora or Centos, but I indicated there are many options to try. Looks like m$ loses another ~30 year customer, through tactics that were unnecessary. He probably would have gone to win10 on his own without that.
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Message 1782940 - Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 16:00:12 UTC - in response to Message 1782918.  

The last few posts sounds like what M$ may include in Win 11, huh? Oh, horrors!


Stay here on Earth. It's the only planet with DARK CHOCOLATE !!

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Message 1782942 - Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 16:10:01 UTC - in response to Message 1782940.  

Funnily enough, My friend mentioned his fears about 'Windows 11'. I responded with an explanation that after this it is just 'Windows', because genocide on the prior generations leaves no need for a version number.
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Message 1782947 - Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 16:22:31 UTC
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I had an interesting phone call last night which I let go to voice mail as the Caller ID was 800 services usually indicating a robo call. The message left was to the effect of "Your subscription to Windows has expired, all Microsoft services have been stopped on your computer. To renew your subscription please call 1-877-236-0792." I am referring that number to the local authorities for investigation(which I doubt will lead to anything), and to Homeland Security(which I have similar expectations of success).

Upon pondering further though I wonder if this may be a harbinger of the actual future of Wndow$.............

[edit] apparently I'm not alone..... http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-877-236-0792

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Message 1782949 - Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 16:25:27 UTC - in response to Message 1782942.  

hhahahahahahaha
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Message 1782954 - Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 16:40:36 UTC - in response to Message 1782947.  

Yeah, 'Old Bill' is so desperately in need of cash he needs to spam people by phone WAR Diallers, ROFL

The Phone companies are so outdated, vulnerable and corrupt, their own employees can voluntarily or by duress give databases to criminal gangs. Same with the banks. (not to mention pissed off sacked employees).

If you work at such a place, take a walk and look for a real job.

When this comes to a crunch, mark my words, it will once again be Narcissists preying on the weak to prop up their insane addictions.
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Message 1782966 - Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 16:56:30 UTC

Yeah, M$ has gone way to the financial dark side without Gates and Allen, but latest earnings report and outlook appears to indicate a similar path for Apple without Jobs and the Great and Powerful Woz(meant with the utmost respect).

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Message 1782970 - Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 17:06:23 UTC - in response to Message 1782966.  

Yeah, M$ has gone way to the financial dark side without Gates and Allen, but latest earnings report and outlook appears to indicate a similar path for Apple without Jobs and the Great and Powerful Woz(meant with the utmost respect).


Yeah, Have to say, wacky as those guys were, they're choirboys compared to whoever devised this Sh@tstorm
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Message 1783000 - Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 19:31:28 UTC

Friend of mine gets at least one phone call per week from somebody with a very heavy Indian (dot, not feather) accent in a noisy call center telling him "I'm calling on behalf of your internet provider to inform you that your Windows computer may be infected with a virus, as we are seeing many connections originating from it. I need you to open the start menu.."

My friend replies "I don't have one." "Yes, you do sir, just click on the Windows logo on the bottom left of the screen." "But that's where my clock is." "Impossible. What version of Windows are you running?" "Redhat Ubuntu with the 128-bit kernel." *few seconds of silence* "Thank you, have a good day*click*"
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Message 1783002 - Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 20:03:50 UTC - in response to Message 1783000.  

I used to get spammed with telemarketers. I don't anymore. I was called definitely over 50x, maybe up to 100x before I figured it out. There's a simple secret to making them stop, because threats, anger, hangups don't work:

You have to waste as much of their time as possible.

Their hit to miss rate is so bad that their margins are always close to not making money, so they have internal do-not-call lists and the only thing on them are waste-of-time numbers. They'd rather keep calling multiple quick disconnects at the same number in the hopes they will get a sucker, but a few large wastes of their time and suddenly they stop calling.

I was being called by the vacation scammers, so I would press whatever number the robocaller asked to get a person who would barely speak English, then answer their questions up to the next (and most expensive!) level of the person who could speak reasonably good English and do their spiel.

I made sure I was free ie waiting or relaxing or on transit at the time so that I could stay on the line as long as it took while they babbled, always responding positively when prompted. It took over ten minutes each time. They left the credit card part to the last, and then I would feign bad signal and hang up.

I had to do this three times, and I never got one again, and this is going on five months, whereas I was getting two or three a week for months. Hope this helps someone.
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Message 1783012 - Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 21:23:20 UTC - in response to Message 1783002.  
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Message 1783034 - Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 23:16:52 UTC

I've heard a good way to answer a telemarketer's call is "...the job's done, but there's blood everywhere and I don't know what to do with the bodies....." then hang up.

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Message 1783060 - Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 2:44:56 UTC - in response to Message 1783012.  

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3028541/privacy/tired-of-telemarketers-now-you-can-turn-the-tables-on-them-with-this-clever-bot.html

http://www.pcworld.com/article/206972/How_to_Sue_Telemarketers_and_Win.html

Every now and then I will get a robocall, but since I have my number registered with https://www.donotcall.gov/. I just report the number when I do get one.
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Message 1783077 - Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 4:07:30 UTC - in response to Message 1783060.  

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3028541/privacy/tired-of-telemarketers-now-you-can-turn-the-tables-on-them-with-this-clever-bot.html

http://www.pcworld.com/article/206972/How_to_Sue_Telemarketers_and_Win.html

Every now and then I will get a robocall, but since I have my number registered with https://www.donotcall.gov/. I just report the number when I do get one.

You do know that there are some call centers that purchase the do not call list as a list of numbers to call. Mostly the ones that are offshore and thus don't have to obey the list.
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Message 1783085 - Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 4:22:31 UTC
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If you have telephone service that will support this (I use Vonage, which does. Sadly, my Sprint does not), NoMoRoBo is awesome. On average, I get 4-5 robocalls a week. Since I activated this, not a single one has gotten through, and the attempts have been reduced. Pretty decent, and free for residential users.
In case you're curious as to how it works, your current phone service must support simultaneous ring, i.e. the ability for you to define a second number to ring when someone calls you. When a call comes in, they compare the calling number to a database of robodialers they maintain. If there's a match, they answer the call, you never hear a second ring. If not, they drop out and you can answer or not as you choose. Pretty slick.
I love the Jolly Roger concept, but see two flaws. 1) It requires manual intervention to send a call to them, and 2) you are running up minutes of usage, if your service is metered. Still, I will have to add that to the bag of tricks for dealing with these swine!
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