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Message 1775148 - Posted: 31 Mar 2016, 1:39:04 UTC - in response to Message 1775122.  
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It's like those infomercials where they have graphs showing this product is better, but they neglect to say better than what or how they come to this conclusion, who they asked etc.

(Sometimes) in microprint at the bottom of the screen with an asterisk --> "Better than the leading brand"

The company also introduced tools that let developers build powerful chat bots.


And we all know what happened to Tay, don't we?

From article:
"Within 24 hours Tay had been deactivated so the team could make "adjustments"."

Less than 1 day, hmmm, not quite as efficient as The Borg, but Tay still ended up like Locutus.
"adjustments" = electro-shock therapy?
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Message 1775258 - Posted: 31 Mar 2016, 12:40:16 UTC - in response to Message 1773784.  

Trouble with GWX Control Panel Part 2

Part 1 -See Message 1773464 - Posted: 23 Mar 2016, 14:10:44 UTC

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What OTHER reasonable explanation is there for what I experienced with GWX? Maybe the .exe version is the culprit? Perhaps if I used the "install" version none of this would have happened? Thoughts anyone? How many of you used the .exe version as I did? I'm dismayed at not being able to protect myself from Win 10 by using GWX, but, in my experience, using it's like "throwing the baby out with the bath water." :(


Greetings Linda,

I have Win7 Pro 64bit. I downloaded the .exe version of GWX Control Panel. I installed it using that file. I have a GWX icon on my desktop and M$ Control Panel lists GWX Control Panel in Uninstall a program. GWX runs at startup and I have an icon on my icon tray.

-[ snip ]-

Keep on BOINCing...! :)


I never GOT a GWX icon? How did you get yours? All I got was a big screen box telling me to 'run' it. I even looked for the .exe in both my download folders and could not find it. I was going to right-click it and create a shortcut on the desktop.

I am used to answering a question like "run at Startup" with new programs. GWX said nothing about that.

I've heard the same thing about McAfee somewhere, but love it as it is QUIET. I don't get a dozen "important msgs" and "run this" offers as I did with Avast.

GWX is GONE from my PC, thanks to the 'restore' to the day prior to my installing it.

I just MAY try downloading again, but am leery about the .exe version. Maybe the 'install' version WILL give me a screen icon?

Below is the GWX screen when I was running it. I think the settings are fine?

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Greetings Linda,

Please forgive the lateness of this response. :)

I just got the newest version of GWX and I did get the install version initially. My apologies for misleading you, it was not my intention just a misunderstanding of the filename. My suggestion is to get the new version. The filename is GwxControlPanelSetup.exe. The version is v1.7.4.0. Get rid of the stand-alone version you currently have before installing the new version. You should then be good to go with icons and the whole shebang. :)

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Message 1775262 - Posted: 31 Mar 2016, 12:56:01 UTC - in response to Message 1774986.  

Never 10 also got an update today.

That should be added to this list.

Here is an article:
Never 10: prevent upgrades to Windows 10


Some more useful info in the event you succumb to upgrade mania. Another issue of Win10 that is ripe for clarification from MS.
Report: Windows 10 upgrade may turn retail OS into OEM version

Greetings AMDave,

That's just great! All of my Window$ are OEM versions, that was all TigerDirect ever sent me when ordering them. Thanks for the info. :)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)
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Message 1775266 - Posted: 31 Mar 2016, 13:10:59 UTC - in response to Message 1775258.  

[quote][quote][quote]Trouble with GWX Control Panel Part 2

Part 1 -See Message 1773464 - Posted: 23 Mar 2016, 14:10:44 UTC

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Greetings Linda,

Please forgive the lateness of this response. :)

I just got the newest version of GWX and I did get the install version initially. My apologies for misleading you, it was not my intention just a misunderstanding of the filename. My suggestion is to get the new version. The filename is GwxControlPanelSetup.exe. The version is v1.7.4.0. Get rid of the stand-alone version you currently have before installing the new version. You should then be good to go with icons and the whole shebang. :)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)


Hi Captain!

Gee, thank you for your kind up-date about GWX. :) So, of the TWO versions of GWX offered, if I go with the "install" version, and NOT the "standalone" .exe I will then get a screen icon and other stuff? Is the install version a .zip file? If so, where do I put it in Win 7 before I try to "de-crypt" it?

I really want the safety GWX offers from M$, the cruel and misbegotten Borg clone, and enslaver of all sentient life forms in the universe. :)

Oh, BTW, while yer within "hailing range," how do you clean the cabin windows on yer humongous starship, the USS Vre'kasht NCC-33187, especially when zipping along at warp 10? :)

Thank you,

Linda here, signing off, over and out............
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Message 1775275 - Posted: 31 Mar 2016, 13:39:28 UTC - in response to Message 1775266.  

[quote][quote][quote]Trouble with GWX Control Panel Part 2

Part 1 -See Message 1773464 - Posted: 23 Mar 2016, 14:10:44 UTC

===========================


Greetings Linda,

Please forgive the lateness of this response. :)

I just got the newest version of GWX and I did get the install version initially. My apologies for misleading you, it was not my intention just a misunderstanding of the filename. My suggestion is to get the new version. The filename is GwxControlPanelSetup.exe. The version is v1.7.4.0. Get rid of the stand-alone version you currently have before installing the new version. You should then be good to go with icons and the whole shebang. :)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)


Hi Captain!

Gee, thank you for your kind up-date about GWX. :) So, of the TWO versions of GWX offered, if I go with the "install" version, and NOT the "standalone" .exe I will then get a screen icon and other stuff? Is the install version a .zip file? If so, where do I put it in Win 7 before I try to "de-crypt" it?

I really want the safety GWX offers from M$, the cruel and misbegotten Borg clone, and enslaver of all sentient life forms in the universe. :)

Oh, BTW, while yer within "hailing range," how do you clean the cabin windows on yer humongous starship, the USS Vre'kasht NCC-33187, especially when zipping along at warp 10? :)

Thank you,

Linda here, signing off, over and out............

Greetings Linda,

The install version is also a .exe file. No zipping needed, or is that un-zipping? ;) Yes, you will get the screen and tray icons etc. :)

When pulling into a starbase, there are people there that take care of the external portion of the ship. They clean the windows, fix scratches in the paint job, give it a good wash-n-wax, etc. ;)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)
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Message 1775293 - Posted: 31 Mar 2016, 14:23:48 UTC - in response to Message 1775262.  
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Never 10 also got an update today.

That should be added to this list.

Here is an article:
Never 10: prevent upgrades to Windows 10


Some more useful info in the event you succumb to upgrade mania. Another issue of Win10 that is ripe for clarification from MS.
Report: Windows 10 upgrade may turn retail OS into OEM version

Greetings AMDave,

That's just great! All of my Window$ are OEM versions, that was all TigerDirect ever sent me when ordering them. Thanks for the info. :)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)


Your welcome, and I post such tidbits so that it does help others. I'm not a fan of MS, but I do try to maintain proper decorum. For me, Windows needs to be on a short leash, and that can only be done with information. To that end, I research, research, and research some more.

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So, of the TWO versions of GWX offered, if I go with the "install" version, and NOT the "standalone" .exe I will then get a screen icon and other stuff?

Visit the GWX Control Panel User Guide, and scroll down to "DOWNLOADING AND INSTALLING GWX CONTROL PANEL".
If you are presently using the stand-alone version and are upgrading to the installer version, even more so, you should follow the above.

Is the install version a .zip file?

Both are .exe
Stand-alone is GWX_Control_Panel.exe
Installer is GwxControlPanelSetup.exe

EDIT:
The author of GWX has an account on YouTube. He made a 5 min video (Understanding Windows 10 Upgrade System Settings) pertaining to KB 3035583 and how to circumvent it.

EDIT:
More from the continuing saga of Tay. 'I blame it on the alcohol.'
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@Linda Latte
So, of the TWO versions of GWX offered, if I go with the "install" version, and NOT the "standalone" .exe I will then get a screen icon and other stuff?

Visit the GWX Control Panel User Guide, and scroll down to "DOWNLOADING AND INSTALLING GWX CONTROL PANEL".
If you are presently using the stand-alone version and are upgrading to the installer version, even more so, you should follow the above.

Is the install version a .zip file?

Both are .exe
Stand-alone is GWX_Control_Panel.exe
Installer is GwxControlPanelSetup.exe

EDIT:
The author of GWX has an account on YouTube. He made a 5 min video (Understanding Windows 10 Upgrade System Settings) pertaining to KB 3035583 and how to circumvent it.

Thank you for the additional VERY informative info on GWX !! Watch out if you go for a ride with Siran d'Vel'nahr on his spaceship! He may 'put the pedal to the metal' and scare the bejeezus out of you as he did to me. :)
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Message 1775428 - Posted: 31 Mar 2016, 21:37:18 UTC

On Win 7 the dreaded KB2952664 is back AGAIN!
I put it on blend away and don't bother me again the 3rd time, let's see how relentless it will be... :/
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Message 1775437 - Posted: 31 Mar 2016, 23:06:18 UTC - in response to Message 1775431.  

On Win 7 the dreaded KB2952664 is back AGAIN!
I put it on blend away and don't bother me again the 3rd time, let's see how relentless it will be... :/

And on Win 8.1, KB2976978 is also back again, for Dog knows which time.

Hide, hide, hide, and poof GONE!! :-)


From the KB page for them..

Article ID: 2952664 - Last Review: 03/31/2016 16:17:00 - Revision: 19.0
Assuming they didn't skip revisions, and they don't use minor versions.. it has been re-released 18 times.

Article ID: 2976978 - Last Review: 03/31/2016 16:18:00 - Revision:22.0

And that one has been re-released 21 times.
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Message 1776415 - Posted: 6 Apr 2016, 0:03:02 UTC

Test Post... Please forgive..

My Win 7 PC 64-bit crashed bad and I needed a HD re-format. Am now trying to get BOINC and my on-line business working again. I have about 35 programs to load and try to find the registration codes for. A real nightmare!

Sorry for taking up BW.. Just wanted to make sure all aspects of SETI are working for me.

I will shut up now. :)
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Message 1776560 - Posted: 6 Apr 2016, 11:38:09 UTC

I'm pretty sure I posted this in here awhile back; but, for those whom are interested:

To Restore the F8 Boot to Safe Mode in Win 10, (8.1, too), do this:

Open cmd.exe as Administrator, then type in:

bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy legacy


Close cmd.exe, reboot, hit F8 until you get the Advanced Boot Menu Options...


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Message 1776609 - Posted: 6 Apr 2016, 14:07:57 UTC - in response to Message 1776415.  

Test Post... Please forgive..

My Win 7 PC 64-bit crashed bad and I needed a HD re-format. Am now trying to get BOINC and my on-line business working again. I have about 35 programs to load and try to find the registration codes for. A real nightmare!

Sorry for taking up BW.. Just wanted to make sure all aspects of SETI are working for me.

I will shut up now. :)


It might be an idea to grab yourself a free copy of Macrium Reflect, acquire an external HD, and do occasional image backups. It means you can do a full restore in a matter of minutes. No more re-installations.

worth a look, no?

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Message 1776630 - Posted: 6 Apr 2016, 15:15:44 UTC - in response to Message 1776609.  

Or you could use the built in Windows Image found in Backup on your W7 computer.
I recommend it as well as Macrium.

Test Post... Please forgive..

My Win 7 PC 64-bit crashed bad and I needed a HD re-format. Am now trying to get BOINC and my on-line business working again. I have about 35 programs to load and try to find the registration codes for. A real nightmare!

Sorry for taking up BW.. Just wanted to make sure all aspects of SETI are working for me.

I will shut up now. :)


It might be an idea to grab yourself a free copy of Macrium Reflect, acquire an external HD, and do occasional image backups. It means you can do a full restore in a matter of minutes. No more re-installations.

worth a look, no?

P.


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Message 1776633 - Posted: 6 Apr 2016, 15:26:48 UTC - in response to Message 1776630.  

Or you could use the built in Windows Image found in Backup on your W7 computer.

The irritating thing about that is that it requires a 1TB drive to backup to, even if the Windows partition is just 120GB.

I see that Macrium allows for individual partition imaging and cloning, so you can store multiple images or partitions on a 1TB drive.
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Message 1776640 - Posted: 6 Apr 2016, 15:46:27 UTC - in response to Message 1776633.  

Or you could use the built in Windows Image found in Backup on your W7 computer.

The irritating thing about that is that it requires a 1TB drive to backup to, even if the Windows partition is just 120GB.

I see that Macrium allows for individual partition imaging and cloning, so you can store multiple images or partitions on a 1TB drive.


I just used Reflect to move my Win7 install from a 90GB SSD to a 250GB SSD.

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Or you could use the built in Windows Image found in Backup on your W7 computer.

The irritating thing about that is that it requires a 1TB drive to backup to, even if the Windows partition is just 120GB.

I see that Macrium allows for individual partition imaging and cloning, so you can store multiple images or partitions on a 1TB drive.

I like Symantec Ghost or Acronis True Image to make system backups. Rather than install their software I use the "recovery media" method. Boot to it. Then make or restore the OS image I need.

It is also a grate method for running a system with multiple OSs without messing around with multiboot options or bootloaders.
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Message 1776709 - Posted: 6 Apr 2016, 20:19:21 UTC - in response to Message 1776633.  

Or you could use the built in Windows Image found in Backup on your W7 computer.

The irritating thing about that is that it requires a 1TB drive to backup to, even if the Windows partition is just 120GB.

I see that Macrium allows for individual partition imaging and cloning, so you can store multiple images or partitions on a 1TB drive.


I must be doing something wrong as I am using 500GB drives for backup. If you are backing up a 1T drive, it will only restore onto a 1T drive, even if the image size is smaller.

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Or you could use the built in Windows Image found in Backup on your W7 computer.

The irritating thing about that is that it requires a 1TB drive to backup to, even if the Windows partition is just 120GB.

I see that Macrium allows for individual partition imaging and cloning, so you can store multiple images or partitions on a 1TB drive.

That's interesting, because on literally a dozen laptops that I've done clean installations of 7 on, they had a 120-500gb HDD in them, and I carved-out ~25gb at the end of the drive for another partition and 7 has no issue with making a system image of the main partition onto that smaller one. There's just the standard warning that the recovery partition is on the same physical drive, so if the drive dies, you lose your backup, but it will still do it.

And it's not so much that if you're backing up a 1TB drive that it has to be a 1TB drive that you restore to.. it's all about the partition size. Since the actual LBA/sector count of 1TB drives varies by model and especially by manufacturer, if you ever plan on wanting to be able to successfully use your backups.. it is generally a good idea to shrink the C partition using disk management (run > diskmgmt.msc) down to something fairly universal. Like if you do a clean install and do all the updates and don't add all your software, you can shrink it down to under 80gb, make the backup, and then expand it back out to the limitation of the disk.

That way in the future, if you replace your C drive with a smaller drive, you can still use your backup image, as long as the new drive is larger than the size of the partition when you made the backup.
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Message 1776715 - Posted: 6 Apr 2016, 21:29:20 UTC - in response to Message 1776712.  

And it's not so much that if you're backing up a 1TB drive that it has to be a 1TB drive that you restore to.. it's all about the partition size.

I can't help it, at the time that I'd made an in-place repair installation of my Windows, on a new SSHD, I wanted to backup the Windows partition only to the old drive that held Windows and several other partitions.

The Windows backup program told me at the time that I needed a 1000 GB drive to be able to do what I wanted. It now tells me I need a medium with at least 174.5GB free. Which is still a little over as the Windows partition is 500GB with only 120GB used.
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