All hail Linux ....bowing down on my knees now ....hum....hum.....hum

Oh dear:)
I dont think Linus wanted to start a "religion" when he reversed engineered Unix to Linux.

Linus Torvalds describes himself as "completely a-religious—atheist", adding that "I find that people seem to think religion brings morals and appreciation of nature. I actually think it detracts from both. It gives people the excuse to say, 'Oh, nature was just created,' and so the act of creation is seen to be something miraculous. I appreciate the fact that, 'Wow, it's incredible that something like this could have happened in the first place.'" He later added that while in Europe religion is mostly a personal issue, in America it has become very politicized. When discussing the issue of church and state separation, Torvalds also said, "Yeah, it's kind of ironic that in many European countries, there is actually a kind of legal binding between the state and the state religion."[43]

Here are some interesting stats.

Top 100 computers at SETI@Home by OS

Windows 7 - 39
Windows 10 - 30
Windows 8.1 - 12
Windows XP - 6
Darwin - 6
Linux - 5
Windows 8 - 1
Win Server 2012 - 1

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Same subject, different view.

News today that the FBI has obtained a Court Order, and a Judge has ordered Apple to decrypt the Iphone used by the San Bernadino terrorists(whom I refuse to glorify by name). Tim Cooke and Apple have refused the order and state that they will not violate the privacy of their Iphone users and will defend their refusal up through the Supreme Court.

Wow, what a difference to the view M$ takes with their Window$ users.

That being said, where do we draw the line between privacy and the need to know what terrorists are up to? Some abuse of the state of privacy will be necessary to defeating plots against the public but how far the 'Camel's nose' gets under the tent flap is the question of the day.

There must be a middle ground somewhere......":|}

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Regarding the previous post:

I think, this is only marketing.
If "they" can decipher that special iphone, they can decipher any iphone.
If this would become well known to the public, it would be a disastrous privacy nightmare for their marketing department...

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Aloha, Uli

Same subject, different view.

News today that the FBI has obtained a Court Order, and a Judge has ordered Apple to decrypt the Iphone used by the San Bernadino terrorists(whom I refuse to glorify by name). Tim Cooke and Apple have refused the order and state that they will not violate the privacy of their Iphone users and will defend their refusal up through the Supreme Court.

Wow, what a difference to the view M$ takes with their Window$ users.

That being said, where do we draw the line between privacy and the need to know what terrorists are up to? Some abuse of the state of privacy will be necessary to defeating plots against the public but how far the 'Camel's nose' gets under the tent flap is the question of the day.

There must be a middle ground somewhere......":|}

Tim Cook wrote this yesterday.

The United States government has demanded that Apple take an unprecedented step which threatens the security of our customers. We oppose this order, which has implications far beyond the legal case at hand.

This moment calls for public discussion, and we want our customers and people around the country to understand what is at stake.

http://www.apple.com/customer-letter/

Here are some interesting stats.

Top 100 computers at SETI@Home by OS

Windows 7 - 39
Windows 10 - 30
Windows 8.1 - 12
Windows XP - 6
Darwin - 6
Linux - 5
Windows 8 - 1
Win Server 2012 - 1

That is interesting. Pulling from BOINCstats SETI@home hosts OS list I added the host totals by base OS and came up with these figures. I did lump the R2 versions of Server releases in with their previous versions. Which I shouldn't have, but realized I did that afterward.

Microsoft Windows XP 	1828104
Microsoft Windows 7	655305
Linux	 	 	347446
Microsoft Windows Vista	289058
OS X	 	 	264782
Microsoft Windows 2003	79276
Microsoft Windows 8.1	59494
Microsoft Windows 10	58984
Microsoft Windows 8	31947
Microsoft Windows 2008	18012
Android	 	 	9382
BSD	 	 	5187
Microsoft Windows 2012	3287

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SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours
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That is easily explained:
For dedicated crunching XP is still first choice in the Windoze family for minimum overhead and maximum crunching. Unfortunately i had to upgrade my daily driver to Windoze 7 only for security reasons. If it would be a pure dedicated cruncher, it would still run XP!

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Aloha, Uli

News today that the FBI has obtained a Court Order, and a Judge has ordered Apple to decrypt the Iphone used by the San Bernadino terrorists(whom I refuse to glorify by name). Tim Cooke and Apple have refused the order and state that they will not violate the privacy of their Iphone users and will defend their refusal up through the Supreme Court.

Pity they don't take the same stance with China.

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Grant
Darwin NT

Pity they don't take the same stance with China.

The supreme puppet court of China?

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What the -BLEEP- is the U.S. Government thinking????

Defense Department to put Windows 10 on 4M computers

The U.S. Department of Defense will standardize 4 million computers on Windows 10, a significant endorsement for Microsoft's latest operating system.

The announcement is the largest deployment of Windows 10 in an enterprise setting to date. The goal is to have all of the DoD's computers that are running older versions of Windows upgraded to Microsoft's new OS within a year.

That's a fast timeline for an organization of the Defense Department's size, especially since Windows 10 hasn't been on the market for a year. It's a move to streamline the department's IT infrastructure, which is increasingly important as a key means of protecting from digital attacks.

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Bottom line, when Win 10 is what's available, Win 10 gets bought.
When corporate licenses on Win 10 are cheaper than licenses for Win7/8/8.1, Win 10 gets bought.
When nobody's offering leases on anything but Win 10, Win 10 get bought.

No emotion, no angst, no policy discussion, just business as usual.

Government and academia may vary a little, but I bet not much.

That's what they're thinking ...

OTOH, maybe MS bought the US Government and they're waging war on Apple ...

lol

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What the -BLEEP- is the U.S. Government thinking????

It's a move to streamline the department's IT infrastructure, which is increasingly important as a key means of protecting from digital attacks.

Forced updates that can't be turned off = short term money savings.

http://www.itbusinessedge.com/blogs/unfiltered-opinion/windows-10-forced-upgrade-fighting-decades-long-institutional-insanity.html?google_editors_picks=true

Wrapping Up: A Future of Forced Upgrades

The world has changed a lot since we first saw PCs. Now we are surrounded by smart devices that automatically get updates whether we want them or not, largely because of a combination of bug fixes and constantly changing security exposures. Recently, the GSA began to put in place policies that force all U.S. government suppliers to aggressively assure all parts of their business from the citizenship and background of workers to the source and content of their software. This will quickly trickle down to every company that is in the supply chain of these firms. But it is very likely that in the next decade, we will face a security problem of national if not global proportions and that will force laws, and vendor liability, that will make keeping platforms current not only more acceptable but potentially illegal to avoid.

Yes, you read that correct. In the not too distant future, your ISP will have the legal liability to not allow your device to connect unless it has the current update to the acceptable list of O/S's.

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What's the bet that it'll be a clean version of Win10 and not the same as the rest of us would get? (spyware free) ;-)

Cheers.

What's the bet that it'll be a clean version of Win10 and not the same as the rest of us would get? (spyware free) ;-)

Cheers.

Actually my Mother's a retired government worker (tax). From the nonspecific fragments I gather, spying on government workers internally is an important part of government, lol.

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"Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions.

Since the government will most probably install the enterprise edition of W10, there is the possibility, that the images, they use for installation, already have turned off the "telemetry" - except for internal purposes of course... >;)

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Aloha, Uli

I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TINFOIL TO MAKE A HAT! WHAT AM I GOING TO DO!?!?

Varying thicknesses of tinfoil may be required, depending on how well-suited said thicknesses are for the particular occasion in question.

Choose wisely as the reflectivity of aluminum depends on the surface characteristics and varies between 84 and 92%. Maybe make a hat using something better? :)

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River Song (aka Linda Latte on planet Earth)
"Happy I-Phone girl on the GO GO GO"

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Choose wisely as the reflectivity of aluminum depends on the surface characteristics and varies between 84 and 92%. Maybe make a hat using something better? :)

Aren't most signals reduced by passing through building walls? Just sit in the middle of the right building, and aluminum is not so bad....

Back on the thread topic: if I knew you to use a *nix CLI, I would, but since Windoze is all I know....

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Please Sir, may I have Another?

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Finally bit the bullet and done an in-place repair installation of my Windows 7, after lots of trouble last night getting Bitdefender's Antivirus Plus 2016 to work (black screens are not fun to look at).

Started this afternoon, did the install without Updates. That still took a good 5 hours to complete, because of the large amount of files and settings it had to copy over (close to 4 million!).

But, I am now in a very speedy Windows 7. Used the DVD's activation key to activate it without trouble. And so after updating all my drivers and rearranging my desktop so its icons are spread over both monitors again (games right, apps left), I'm now doing Windows Update.

Sneaky bastard had "Receive recommended updates the same way as important updates" checked in settings, so at that time I had close to 400 updates waiting at over a gigabyte of data. Unchecked that and important fell back to 157 updates, 105 optional ones. Although that latter number includes the 38 language packs I can install, I'm only going to install English.

However, the rest of those updates have all the jewels in Cosmo's list.
All of them are unchecked, none of those are getting on my system. Not until I've gone through it with a fine tooth comb.

Now I just don't know what it's doing. Earlier it was downloading the updates, but it's stopped doing that. The last 4 reboots nothing has installed either. Shrug.

Perhaps go do dinner first, and figure this out later. :)

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