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Message 1765534 - Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 22:31:31 UTC

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Message 1765541 - Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 22:55:10 UTC - in response to Message 1765534.  

http://www.zdnet.com/article/worried-that-windows-10-is-spying-on-you-here-how-to-take-back-control/

jus sayin....

Greetings Louis,

Either that guy lives under a rock or he was paid by Micro$oft to say what he did.

Just sayin'... ;)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)
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Message 1765548 - Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 23:25:12 UTC

Never waste brains cells on the facts when a good conspiracy theory will do ...
Occam's Razor died with New Math.

Jus sayin :)
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Message 1765578 - Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 0:51:44 UTC - in response to Message 1765442.  

If you do not Want/Value Your Privacy...Then you haven't Lived a Full Life.
...

Are Microsoft, Apple, and Google the new Religions and Church for the Power of Marketing to steer the unwary and uneducated down the path of Consumerism into a polluted Hell on Earth?

Meanwhile, the very human false gods at the top of the game giggle and laugh their way to the bank and magnanimously scatter a few coins to keep their game rolling...


Roll-up roll-up!

All quite a game!!


For all Believers, you WILL Believe in Windows 10!


Keep searchin',
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Nope, I've been tasting Mint...And I Like it.
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Message 1765588 - Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 1:16:59 UTC - in response to Message 1765578.  

I have to agree I am liking the taste of mint very much(and giving the time frame I think that the flavor will get even better)Once the current run of beta is over(and I am done with my computer upgrades that are in progress)I will be devoting more time to Mint since I feel that this will be my OS for the future.
ME AND MY BOY LOOKING FOR ET
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Message 1765591 - Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 2:05:09 UTC

Sounds like the concesus is WIN 10 is crap and Linux will finally have it's day in the limelight and be the op all those Linux men want seeing as the rest of us will probably join them

All hail Linux ....bowing down on my knees now ....hum....hum.....hum
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Message 1765594 - Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 2:24:19 UTC - in response to Message 1765591.  
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All hail Linux ....bowing down on my knees now ....hum....hum.....hum

Oh dear:)
I dont think Linus wanted to start a "religion" when he reversed engineered Unix to Linux.
Linus Torvalds describes himself as "completely a-religious—atheist", adding that "I find that people seem to think religion brings morals and appreciation of nature. I actually think it detracts from both. It gives people the excuse to say, 'Oh, nature was just created,' and so the act of creation is seen to be something miraculous. I appreciate the fact that, 'Wow, it's incredible that something like this could have happened in the first place.'" He later added that while in Europe religion is mostly a personal issue, in America it has become very politicized. When discussing the issue of church and state separation, Torvalds also said, "Yeah, it's kind of ironic that in many European countries, there is actually a kind of legal binding between the state and the state religion."[43]
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Message 1765667 - Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 8:49:35 UTC

Here are some interesting stats.

Top 100 computers at SETI@Home by OS

Windows 7 - 39
Windows 10 - 30
Windows 8.1 - 12
Windows XP - 6
Darwin - 6
Linux - 5
Windows 8 - 1
Win Server 2012 - 1
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Message 1765713 - Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 14:57:20 UTC

Same subject, different view.

News today that the FBI has obtained a Court Order, and a Judge has ordered Apple to decrypt the Iphone used by the San Bernadino terrorists(whom I refuse to glorify by name). Tim Cooke and Apple have refused the order and state that they will not violate the privacy of their Iphone users and will defend their refusal up through the Supreme Court.

Wow, what a difference to the view M$ takes with their Window$ users.

That being said, where do we draw the line between privacy and the need to know what terrorists are up to? Some abuse of the state of privacy will be necessary to defeating plots against the public but how far the 'Camel's nose' gets under the tent flap is the question of the day.

There must be a middle ground somewhere......":|}

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Message 1765730 - Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 16:12:03 UTC

Regarding the previous post:

I think, this is only marketing.
If "they" can decipher that special iphone, they can decipher any iphone.
If this would become well known to the public, it would be a disastrous privacy nightmare for their marketing department...
Aloha, Uli

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Message 1765732 - Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 16:27:47 UTC - in response to Message 1765713.  
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Same subject, different view.

News today that the FBI has obtained a Court Order, and a Judge has ordered Apple to decrypt the Iphone used by the San Bernadino terrorists(whom I refuse to glorify by name). Tim Cooke and Apple have refused the order and state that they will not violate the privacy of their Iphone users and will defend their refusal up through the Supreme Court.

Wow, what a difference to the view M$ takes with their Window$ users.

That being said, where do we draw the line between privacy and the need to know what terrorists are up to? Some abuse of the state of privacy will be necessary to defeating plots against the public but how far the 'Camel's nose' gets under the tent flap is the question of the day.

There must be a middle ground somewhere......":|}

Tim Cook wrote this yesterday.
The United States government has demanded that Apple take an unprecedented step which threatens the security of our customers. We oppose this order, which has implications far beyond the legal case at hand.

This moment calls for public discussion, and we want our customers and people around the country to understand what is at stake.

http://www.apple.com/customer-letter/
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Message 1765745 - Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 17:14:19 UTC - in response to Message 1765667.  

Here are some interesting stats.

Top 100 computers at SETI@Home by OS

Windows 7 - 39
Windows 10 - 30
Windows 8.1 - 12
Windows XP - 6
Darwin - 6
Linux - 5
Windows 8 - 1
Win Server 2012 - 1

That is interesting. Pulling from BOINCstats SETI@home hosts OS list I added the host totals by base OS and came up with these figures. I did lump the R2 versions of Server releases in with their previous versions. Which I shouldn't have, but realized I did that afterward.
Microsoft Windows XP 	1828104
Microsoft Windows 7	655305
Linux	 	 	347446
Microsoft Windows Vista	289058
OS X	 	 	264782
Microsoft Windows 2003	79276
Microsoft Windows 8.1	59494
Microsoft Windows 10	58984
Microsoft Windows 8	31947
Microsoft Windows 2008	18012
Android	 	 	9382
BSD	 	 	5187
Microsoft Windows 2012	3287

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Message 1765759 - Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 18:07:09 UTC

That is easily explained:
For dedicated crunching XP is still first choice in the Windoze family for minimum overhead and maximum crunching. Unfortunately i had to upgrade my daily driver to Windoze 7 only for security reasons. If it would be a pure dedicated cruncher, it would still run XP!
Aloha, Uli

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Message 1765866 - Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 23:25:39 UTC - in response to Message 1765713.  

News today that the FBI has obtained a Court Order, and a Judge has ordered Apple to decrypt the Iphone used by the San Bernadino terrorists(whom I refuse to glorify by name). Tim Cooke and Apple have refused the order and state that they will not violate the privacy of their Iphone users and will defend their refusal up through the Supreme Court.

Pity they don't take the same stance with China.
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Message 1765875 - Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 23:48:26 UTC - in response to Message 1765866.  

Pity they don't take the same stance with China.

The supreme puppet court of China?
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Message 1765913 - Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 3:25:05 UTC

What the -BLEEP- is the U.S. Government thinking????

Defense Department to put Windows 10 on 4M computers

The U.S. Department of Defense will standardize 4 million computers on Windows 10, a significant endorsement for Microsoft's latest operating system.

The announcement is the largest deployment of Windows 10 in an enterprise setting to date. The goal is to have all of the DoD's computers that are running older versions of Windows upgraded to Microsoft's new OS within a year.

That's a fast timeline for an organization of the Defense Department's size, especially since Windows 10 hasn't been on the market for a year. It's a move to streamline the department's IT infrastructure, which is increasingly important as a key means of protecting from digital attacks.

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Message 1765927 - Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 4:05:46 UTC - in response to Message 1765114.  
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Bottom line, when Win 10 is what's available, Win 10 gets bought.
When corporate licenses on Win 10 are cheaper than licenses for Win7/8/8.1, Win 10 gets bought.
When nobody's offering leases on anything but Win 10, Win 10 get bought.

No emotion, no angst, no policy discussion, just business as usual.

Government and academia may vary a little, but I bet not much.


That's what they're thinking ...

OTOH, maybe MS bought the US Government and they're waging war on Apple ...

lol
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Message 1765933 - Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 4:32:18 UTC - in response to Message 1765913.  

What the -BLEEP- is the U.S. Government thinking????
It's a move to streamline the department's IT infrastructure, which is increasingly important as a key means of protecting from digital attacks.
Forced updates that can't be turned off = short term money savings.

http://www.itbusinessedge.com/blogs/unfiltered-opinion/windows-10-forced-upgrade-fighting-decades-long-institutional-insanity.html?google_editors_picks=true
Wrapping Up: A Future of Forced Upgrades

The world has changed a lot since we first saw PCs. Now we are surrounded by smart devices that automatically get updates whether we want them or not, largely because of a combination of bug fixes and constantly changing security exposures. Recently, the GSA began to put in place policies that force all U.S. government suppliers to aggressively assure all parts of their business from the citizenship and background of workers to the source and content of their software. This will quickly trickle down to every company that is in the supply chain of these firms. But it is very likely that in the next decade, we will face a security problem of national if not global proportions and that will force laws, and vendor liability, that will make keeping platforms current not only more acceptable but potentially illegal to avoid.

Yes, you read that correct. In the not too distant future, your ISP will have the legal liability to not allow your device to connect unless it has the current update to the acceptable list of O/S's.
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Message 1765987 - Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 8:13:33 UTC
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What's the bet that it'll be a clean version of Win10 and not the same as the rest of us would get? (spyware free) ;-)

Cheers.
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Message 1766020 - Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 12:54:03 UTC - in response to Message 1765987.  

What's the bet that it'll be a clean version of Win10 and not the same as the rest of us would get? (spyware free) ;-)

Cheers.


Actually my Mother's a retired government worker (tax). From the nonspecific fragments I gather, spying on government workers internally is an important part of government, lol.
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