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Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14679 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
I think it's in the 'Community Additions' section - and as so often, for 'community' read 'spammer'. |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
Microsoft is going to release a patch later this year with which users can disable the tracking and telemetry in Windows 10 completely. For the full article on it, read it at Forbes. I cannot give quotes from the article because the Forbes site does not allow me to go on there as I have ad-blockers running. It even says I have one running in Internet Explorer, which is as bare-bone as possible, so go figure. Although I would expect Forbes to have enough money, but that aside. No word apparently on if they now stop throwing all that tracking and telemetry into Windows 7/8.1 as well. Probably not. Oh, Microsoft does advise against turning off the tracking but cannot say why. |
Jeanette Send message Joined: 25 Apr 15 Posts: 55 Credit: 7,827,469 RAC: 0 |
Strange - I run AdBlockPlus on Chrome and have no problems getting the page.... |
JLDun Send message Joined: 21 Apr 06 Posts: 574 Credit: 196,101 RAC: 0 |
Forbes.com wrote: For now, full control of Telemetry is being brought only to Windows 10 Enterprise |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
Forbes.com wrote:For now, full control of Telemetry is being brought only to Windows 10 Enterprise Greetings, Yes, Window$ 10 Home and Pro users will be left out in the cold and will have to deal with being tracked and such. Also: Earlier this week a Voat thread started something. It detailed extensive Windows 10 background telemetry making thousands of connections every hour to Microsoft [MSFT -8.40%] servers. It did this with every accessible tracking option disabled and even a third party telemetry blocker installed. I took this data to Microsoft and it declined to comment, but now the company has had a change of heart. What's up with that? No matter what we do to prevent tracking and such, we cannot? Keep on BOINCing...! :) CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
Forbes.com wrote:For now, full control of Telemetry is being brought only to Windows 10 Enterprise Well that depends on what addresses and ports they use to call home. One could simple disable that port for outgoing data in their router config. Back with XP I found some odd ports making outbound connections to IPs that were owned by MS. So I disabled them in my router. It didn't break anything & I never did find out what services was trying to make those connections. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
Hi Rick, What's up with that? No matter what we do to prevent tracking and such, we cannot? The person -Crust- doing that test tested it wrong. He closed off all connections in his test, which means that e.g. when Windows can't reach an update server, it will go try to connect to another. Read http://www.zdnet.com/article/when-it-comes-to-windows-10-privacy-dont-trust-amateur-analysts/: First of all, 602 connection attempts were to 192.168.1.255, using UDP port 137. That's the broadcast address where Windows computers on a local network announce their presence and look for other network computers using the NetBIOS Name Service. It's perfectly normal traffic. Do know that the person who wrote the post at Voat has since deleted his test and his whole account. |
Louis Loria II Send message Joined: 20 Oct 03 Posts: 259 Credit: 9,208,040 RAC: 24 |
I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TINFOIL TO MAKE A HAT! WHAT AM I GOING TO DO!?!? |
Cosmic_Ocean Send message Joined: 23 Dec 00 Posts: 3027 Credit: 13,516,867 RAC: 13 |
I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TINFOIL TO MAKE A HAT! WHAT AM I GOING TO DO!?!? Varying thicknesses of tinfoil may be required, depending on how well-suited said thicknesses are for the particular occasion in question. Linux laptop: record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up) |
Jeff Buck Send message Joined: 11 Feb 00 Posts: 1441 Credit: 148,764,870 RAC: 0 |
I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TINFOIL TO MAKE A HAT! WHAT AM I GOING TO DO!?!? Also depends on how thick the underlying skull is to begin with. ;^) |
Jim_S Send message Joined: 23 Feb 00 Posts: 4705 Credit: 64,560,357 RAC: 31 |
I'm gonna make mine outta Lead!!! :p I Desire Peace and Justice, Jim Scott (Mod-Ret.) |
JLDun Send message Joined: 21 Apr 06 Posts: 574 Credit: 196,101 RAC: 0 |
Should work; "depending on the writer" not even Superman could look through lead. And Gates is no Superman. |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Just live under a galvanized garbage can and call yourself Oscar.......";D> "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
Microsoft is going to release a patch later this year with which users can disable the tracking and telemetry in Windows 10 completely. For the full article on it, read it at Forbes. Microsoft has no plans to change Windows 10 consumer privacy settings. According to ZDNet: Another report from Forbes turns out to be incorrect. Sources with direct knowledge of Windows product plans confirm that there are no plans to change privacy options for Windows 10. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51477 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Just live under a galvanized garbage can and call yourself Oscar.......";D> It's called a 'Faraday cage', my friend. Tinfoil, as it is sold these days, is often not of a thick enough gauge to provide proper cover...ahem... Meowingfromundercover. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." |
AMDave Send message Joined: 9 Mar 01 Posts: 234 Credit: 11,671,730 RAC: 0 |
@Ageless Microsoft is going to release a patch later this year with which users can disable the tracking and telemetry in Windows 10 completely. For the full article on it, read it at Forbes. Best line from the article: "Executives believe that existing privacy controls are reasonable for consumers and there's no need for a drastic change." How would this change be "drastic"? Why is it that it's drastic only when viewed from Redmond, WA (specifically, the exec suite)? Whatever happened to taking customers' wishes into account? One more question: What's it like to live in a bubble? @JLDun Forbes.com wrote: From the ZDNet article: "This option must be set through Group Policy or via manual registry edits and is only effective on Windows 10 Enterprise edition or the nearly identical Education edition.' and "That enterprise feature has some serious side effects that require mitigation work from IT pros. Most significant is the fact that enabling the Enterprise-only telemetry option, called Security, completely cuts off access to Windows Update, Windows Defender, and the Malicious Software Removal Tool. As a result, it is only recommended for organizations that have an alternative update infrastructure in place, such as Windows Server Update Services or System Center Configuration Manager."[/quote] |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Just live under a galvanized garbage can and call yourself Oscar.......";D> Yup, it's also called a survivalists answer to what to do with your electronic devices under threat of an EMP event. That's what I bought mine for.....":D> "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
JLDun Send message Joined: 21 Apr 06 Posts: 574 Credit: 196,101 RAC: 0 |
"That enterprise feature has some serious side effects that require mitigation work from IT pros. Most significant is the fact that enabling the Enterprise-only telemetry option, called Security, completely cuts off access to Windows Update, Windows Defender, and the Malicious Software Removal Tool. As a result, it is only recommended for organizations that have an alternative update infrastructure in place, such as Windows Server Update Services or System Center Configuration Manager." This practice isn't specific to Windows, but... [Start Rant] it certainly sounds like Microsoft decided that it wanted to bundle Update, Defender, and the MSRT as, possibly, "different ways of doing the same thing". But by doing that, they ignored the idea that the users of Windows want to pick the features they want... and, surprisingly, not everyone uses- or needs- the exact same setup/features. [End Rant] |
AMDave Send message Joined: 9 Mar 01 Posts: 234 Credit: 11,671,730 RAC: 0 |
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kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51477 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Just live under a galvanized garbage can and call yourself Oscar.......";D> Actually, most wonder why I invested in a COPPER roof years ago. I suppose, there would be nothing left on the outside to connect to.. but just the same.......... 10 ground rods driven when the new service was installed about the same time. The installer said...'Just how f===ing well do you want this grounded...man, you are obsessive." He drove 3, and I had to do the others. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." |
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