Well, it looks like 3123862 has been upgraded to a recommended update, instead of an optional one.

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After months of complaints, Microsoft has finally opened a Windows 10 Update History web site that will document the changes it makes to its flagship OS.

“After listening to feedback regarding the level of disclosure for Windows 10 updates, we decided to implement a new system for communicating updates to the operating system,” a Microsoft representative said. “Today we are rolling out the Windows 10 update history site, a hub for the release notes that will accompany each update and serve as a historical record of prior release notes.”
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/update-history-windows-10

There is also a page with Windows 10 release information.

Patch Tuesday information for all related Windows versions: https://technet.microsoft.com/library/security/ms16-feb

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Fine, but where is the list for other windows versions that shows, which update just "pushes" towards Windows 10?
Now, that's just smoke grenades to me...

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Aloha, Uli

Fine, but where is the list for other windows versions that shows, which update just "pushes" towards Windows 10?
Now, that's just smoke grenades to me...

I would also like to add:

That's great that MS is finally telling people what the updates in 10 actually do, but it would still be nice if people could choose which updates they do and don't get if they would like that option.

And a "historical record" is an amusing way to put it, because we've seen with the individual KB numbers for updates so far, that the description of what they do changes over time, as more months progress and more people start to figure out what exactly some of these updates actually do.

All of the updates from "updates to avoid" have had that happen to them, specifically all the ones older than 308xxx. At first, they started off very vague, then they got pretty specific, and then they went back to being vague...but not the same topic that they were at first. Those descriptions change over time for some reason.

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After months of complaints, Microsoft has finally opened a Windows 10 Update History web site that will document the changes it makes to its flagship OS.

“After listening to feedback regarding the level of disclosure for Windows 10 updates, we decided to implement a new system for communicating updates to the operating system,” a Microsoft representative said. “Today we are rolling out the Windows 10 update history site, a hub for the release notes that will accompany each update and serve as a historical record of prior release notes.”
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/update-history-windows-10

There is also a page with Windows 10 release information.

Patch Tuesday information for all related Windows versions: https://technet.microsoft.com/library/security/ms16-feb

Greetings Jord,

Wow! First thing I see when I go to that site is a blue line at the bottom stating that that page is for Window$ 10 and that I have a previous version and to click a link to learn how to upgrade to Window$ 10.

Pushy aren't they? ;)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

[edit]Also, so I guess that the "history" of Window$ 10 updates only goes back to yesterday, Feb 9th. What about all the "history" going back to July 2015 Micro$oft?[/edit]

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Greetings,

Ok, now this is weird!!!

I was looking at the Window$ 10 Servicing Options page and saw the following at the bottom of it:

DRAGONSAT512CLARYMESQUITETEXASMPSSGESTAPOMARTIALLAWS
DANGER GLASSHOUSES LIVING WITH ENEMIES WILLIAM ANTONY KWASNICA HOSTAGE FULLY BRAINDEAD AB[SATSMAMUERTEOPUSDEINECROMANCY]

Does anyone have a clue as to what it is or means?

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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I think it's in the 'Community Additions' section - and as so often, for 'community' read 'spammer'.

Microsoft is going to release a patch later this year with which users can disable the tracking and telemetry in Windows 10 completely. For the full article on it, read it at Forbes.

I cannot give quotes from the article because the Forbes site does not allow me to go on there as I have ad-blockers running. It even says I have one running in Internet Explorer, which is as bare-bone as possible, so go figure. Although I would expect Forbes to have enough money, but that aside.

No word apparently on if they now stop throwing all that tracking and telemetry into Windows 7/8.1 as well. Probably not.

Oh, Microsoft does advise against turning off the tracking but cannot say why.

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Strange - I run AdBlockPlus on Chrome and have no problems getting the page....

Forbes.com wrote:

For now, full control of Telemetry is being brought only to Windows 10 Enterprise

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Forbes.com wrote:

For now, full control of Telemetry is being brought only to Windows 10 Enterprise

Greetings,

Yes, Window$ 10 Home and Pro users will be left out in the cold and will have to deal with being tracked and such.

Also:

Earlier this week a Voat thread started something. It detailed extensive Windows 10 background telemetry making thousands of connections every hour to Microsoft [MSFT -8.40%] servers. It did this with every accessible tracking option disabled and even a third party telemetry blocker installed. I took this data to Microsoft and it declined to comment, but now the company has had a change of heart.

What's up with that? No matter what we do to prevent tracking and such, we cannot?

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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Forbes.com wrote:

For now, full control of Telemetry is being brought only to Windows 10 Enterprise

Well that depends on what addresses and ports they use to call home. One could simple disable that port for outgoing data in their router config.
Back with XP I found some odd ports making outbound connections to IPs that were owned by MS. So I disabled them in my router. It didn't break anything & I never did find out what services was trying to make those connections.

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Hi Rick,

What's up with that? No matter what we do to prevent tracking and such, we cannot?

The person -Crust- doing that test tested it wrong. He closed off all connections in his test, which means that e.g. when Windows can't reach an update server, it will go try to connect to another.

Read http://www.zdnet.com/article/when-it-comes-to-windows-10-privacy-dont-trust-amateur-analysts/:

First of all, 602 connection attempts were to 192.168.1.255, using UDP port 137. That's the broadcast address where Windows computers on a local network announce their presence and look for other network computers using the NetBIOS Name Service. It's perfectly normal traffic.

Another 630 of those connection attempts were Domain Name System lookups to the router itself, 192.168.1.1, using UDP port 53. That address is the router itself.

Why is Windows performing those DNS lookups? One big reason is that's how Windows checks whether you have access to the Internet. If there's a problem with your Internet connection, you get a yellow overlay on the network icon down at the right side of the taskbar.

To do that test, Windows first performs a DNS lookup of www.msftncsi.com. It then makes an HTTP request to retrieve the page ncsi.txt from that site. This file is a plain-text file and contains only the text "Microsoft NCSI." (NCSI stands for Network Connection Status Icon.) Finally, it performs a DNS query for dns.msftncsi.com.

The whole procedure is extensively documented .

DNS queries aren't "spying." Neither are NetBIOS name broadcasts on your local network. So far, that's 22.3 percent of the so-called traffic that's easily accounted for as "not spying," unless you think there's something sinister about a two-word text file that has been downloaded trillions of times from that poor Microsoft server.

Next up is a staggering 1,619 connection attempts using UDP port 3544 to the address 94.245.121.253, which Mr. Crust was unable to identify, along with another five attempts using the same port to other servers.

That address does indeed belong to Microsoft. It's a Teredo server, teredo.ipv6.microsoft.com. Teredo is an Internet standard that is used to supply an IPv6 address to a PC that speaks only IPv4, making it easier to perform secure and reliable communication between two endpoints without having to worry about network translation. It's also well documented and doesn't involve any exchange of information other than IP addresses.

In short, Windows keeps trying to make a simple connection using its IPv6 capabilities, but the router keeps dropping those connection attempts. So it keeps trying again and again.

That's another 1,624 entries we can add to the "not spying" list. So far, by my tally, more than 52 percent of the connection attempts are completely harmless and involve no data collection at all.

Another three connection attempts are using port 123. That's the Network Time Protocol, which devices use to retrieve the current time from authoritative servers on the Internet. Setting the clock on your computer is not "spying."

Mr. Crust's list has another 549 connection attempts on port 80, which is plain old HTTP. Windows doesn't have a web server installed by default, so those are all incoming connections, with Windows trying to retrieve data from Microsoft's servers. They're not sending it the other direction.

Many of the addresses on the list belong to content delivery networks (CDNs) like Akamai Technologies and CloudFlare. Some of those downloads are possibly trying to refresh live tiles in the provisioned MSN apps (News, Sports, Weather, Money, and so on). There are perhaps some updates to the Windows Store in there too.

We might know more if Mr. Crust had allowed his machine to complete some of those connections so he could perform some actual traffic analysis. But he didn't, so we can't.

We can, however, safely conclude that none of those connections would involve any "spying."

Which leaves us with 2,100 connection attempts in eight hours over port 443. Those are secure (HTTPS) connections designed to exchange data so that it can't be intercepted in transit.

We have no idea how many secure connections that machine would have made in eight hours had Mr. Crust actually allowed them to complete. The number would almost certainly have been smaller, perhaps by an order of magnitude or even two.

And of course, those connections are not all about telemetry.

The most important one is the Software Licensing Service, which checks the state of Windows activation periodically. By dropping those connections, Mr. Crust is not allowing those activation and validation checks to complete. Windows gets very cranky when that happens, which could explain why there were more than 1,700 connection attempts to a handful of addresses in a single range of IP addresses managed by Microsoft.

Other content that gets delivered securely over port 443 includes Windows updates, Windows Defender updates, and updates from the Windows Store for apps that are provisioned on every Windows 10 machine. Windows 10 attempts to contact OneDrive, also securely, to see if there are any saved settings for the current user. There are lists of known malicious websites that get delivered to the SmartScreen service in a hashed and encrypted format.

And yes, there is certainly some telemetry data in there. We have no idea whether Mr. Crust changed the default Diagnostic and Usage settings to Basic. If he had, there would probably be a single ping to Microsoft's servers when the machine starts up, which would disclose what that setting was, whether Windows Defender was up to date, and whether his installation had experienced any failures in software or driver installation.

Do know that the person who wrote the post at Voat has since deleted his test and his whole account.

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I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TINFOIL TO MAKE A HAT! WHAT AM I GOING TO DO!?!?

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I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TINFOIL TO MAKE A HAT! WHAT AM I GOING TO DO!?!?

Varying thicknesses of tinfoil may be required, depending on how well-suited said thicknesses are for the particular occasion in question.

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I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TINFOIL TO MAKE A HAT! WHAT AM I GOING TO DO!?!?

Varying thicknesses of tinfoil may be required, depending on how well-suited said thicknesses are for the particular occasion in question.

Also depends on how thick the underlying skull is to begin with. ;^)

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I'm gonna make mine outta Lead!!! :p

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Should work; "depending on the writer" not even Superman could look through lead. And Gates is no Superman.

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Just live under a galvanized garbage can and call yourself Oscar.......";D>

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Microsoft is going to release a patch later this year with which users can disable the tracking and telemetry in Windows 10 completely. For the full article on it, read it at Forbes.

Microsoft has no plans to change Windows 10 consumer privacy settings.

According to ZDNet:
Another report from Forbes turns out to be incorrect. Sources with direct knowledge of Windows product plans confirm that there are no plans to change privacy options for Windows 10.

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