Thank you for all of your work keeping this list up to date it is a GREAT HELP I know that all of us are watching because of your list and our desire to thwart M$. So thanks again for all of your help.

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ME AND MY BOY LOOKING FOR ET

This one KB 3123162 has the wrong number. It does not exist.

Should be KB 3123862

Crap. Stupid typos. I'll ask a mod to fix it.

Thanks for catching it.

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This one KB 3123162 has the wrong number. It does not exist.

Should be KB 3123862

Crap. Stupid typos. I'll ask a mod to fix it.

Thanks for catching it.

Posts can only be completely hidden by moderators. We can't edit them.

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The mind is a weird and mysterious place

This one KB 3123162 has the wrong number. It does not exist.

Should be KB 3123862

Crap. Stupid typos. I'll ask a mod to fix it.

Thanks for catching it.

Posts can only be completely hidden by moderators. We can't edit them.

Really? I thought you guys could edit them, too. Hm. Guess I'll fix it and re-post. Thanks anyway.

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record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up)

"updates to avoid", version 6.2 (corrected a mis-typed KB #):

(Red for 8.1, Blue for 7, Green for either/both):

KB 2952664 - Labeled a compatibility upgrade for upgrading Windows 7, its purpose is to "make improvements to the current operating system in order to ease the upgrade experience to the latest version of Windows".
KB 2957026 - This update makes feature changes and improvements to the Windows 8.1 Upgrade notification in Windows 8 or Windows RT. After you install this update, the upgrade will be more discoverable and faster.
KB 2976978 - A compatibility update for Windows 8.1 and Windows 8 which "performs diagnostics on the Windows system [..] to determine whether compatibility issues may be encountered when the latest Windows operating system is installed.
KB 2977759 - This update performs diagnostics on the Windows systems that participate in the Windows Customer Experience Improvement Program. These diagnostics help determine whether compatibility issues may be encountered when the latest Windows operating system is installed. This update will help Microsoft and its partners ensure compatibility for customers who want to install the latest Windows operating system.
KB 2990214 - Does the same as KB 3044374 but on Windows 7.
KB 3021917 - Does the same as KB 2976978 but on Windows 7.
KB 3022345 - Update to enable the Diagnostics Tracking Service in Windows (Windows 7 SP1, Windows 8.1)
KB 3035583 - This update installs the "Get Windows 10" notification on Windows 7 SP1 and Windows 8.1
KB 3044374 - This update for Windows 8.1 enables systems to upgrade from the current operating system to a later version of Windows.
KB 3050265 - This update makes improvements to the Update client to increase scanning speed, and to improve the upgrade to later versions of Windows. Also provides the registry keys to disable upgrading to 10.
KB 3050267 - Same as KB3050265 but for Windows 8.1.
KB 3058168 - This update allows 8.1 Key Management Service (KMS) hosts to upgrade to 10.
KB 3065987 - This article describes an update that contains some improvements to Windows Update Client in Windows 7.
KB 3065988 - Same as KB3065987, but for Windows 8.1.
KB 3068708 - This update introduces the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to existing devices.
KB 3075249 - This update adds telemetry points to the User Account Control (UAC) feature to collect information on elevations that come from low integrity levels.
KB 3075851 - This article describes an update that contains some improvements to Windows Update Client in Windows 7 and also resolves an issue in which certain Windows Update operations fail when you install (KB3065987) on Windows 7 Embedded editions.
KB 3075853 - Same as KB3075851, but for Windows 8.1.
KB 3079821 - Same as KB3058168, but for Windows 7.
KB 3081954 - This update ensures users can continue using Work Folders when upgrading from Windows 7 to 10. Also adds telemetry points to Work Folders for Asimov telemetry pipeline.
KB 3080149 - This package updates the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to existing devices.
KB 3083324 - Windows Update Client for Windows 7 - August 2015.
KB 3083325 - Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1 - August 2015.
KB 3083710 - New Update Client for Windows 7. No further details about it. (It is suspected this new client downloads other updates in this list in the background without any consent or notice of doing so.)
KB 3083711 - New Update Client for Windows 8.1. No further details about it. (It is suspected this new client downloads other updates in this list in the background without any consent or notice of doing so.)
KB 3102810 - Improvements to the New Update Client provided by KB3083710
KB 3102812 - Improvements to the New Update Client provided by KB3083711
KB 3112343 - Improves the Update Client when upgrading from 7 to 10 and provides MS with feedback on how smooth the process was.
KB 3112336 - Improves the Update Client when upgrading from 8.1 to 10 and provides MS with feedback on how smooth the process was.
KB 3123862 - This update adds capabilities to some computers that lets users easily learn about Windows 10 or start an upgrade to Windows 10. (read: "nags you with propaganda until you give-in")
KB 3135445 - New Update Client for Windows 7 - February 2016.
KB 3135449 - New Update Client for Windows 8.1 - February 2016.

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Just a dumb question, does all this update avoidance take more time than hitting a close box on a advert once a day, and unchecking a box in optional updates once a week?

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Just a dumb question, does all this update avoidance take more time than hitting a close box on a advert once a day, and unchecking a box in optional updates once a week?

I think for some of us it's the principal of the thing.
We have something that works, and cannot stand the arrogance of MS pushing their 'latest and greatest' (in their estimation) upon us against our free will.
I don't want ANYBODY to make changes to my computers without MY choice to do so.

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"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

Just a dumb question, does all this update avoidance take more time than hitting a close box on a advert once a day, and unchecking a box in optional updates once a week?

It is defiantly a lot more work then just setting updates to never.

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So far never has worked well for me for many years.

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Just a dumb question, does all this update avoidance take more time than... unchecking a box in optional updates once a week?

It takes effort, yes, but if you only want certain updates, and Want To Make Sure you aren't getting any of the others....

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Just a dumb question, does all this update avoidance take more time than hitting a close box on a advert once a day, and unchecking a box in optional updates once a week?

To answer the question absolutely literally and specifically, yes. It does take more time and effort than just closing the nagware.

But it doesn't actually take much effort. By now, I've got most of the KB numbers memorized, largely because they have shown up so many times. As I've said before though, you don't have to pour through every update that becomes available, just the ones that start with "Update for..." rather than "Security Update for..."

So that cuts down the ones that require looking-into. Once you've hidden an update, it doesn't come back unless MS updates it (which changes the unique hash for it, not the KB number), at which point, you just hide it again.


To add to what Mark said.. yes, it is a matter of principle. I have and like 7. I did play with the tech preview for 10 and I liked that, as well. What I did not know during the tech preview is that the system is so....intrusive and throws every bit of privacy that you thought you had right out the window. So on principle, I don't want 10.

7 Doesn't scan all of your emails, or index all the files on your computer--AND the contents within those files--and upload it all to "the Cloud" so that MS and advertisers can do what they please with all of it. When I search for a local file on MY computer in 7, it just searches the filesystem to find it--as it should. In 10, that same search goes and does a Bing search of the indexes that have been gathered and put into the cloud. There is literally no justifiable reason for a LOCAL file search to go to the Internet to run through a database there to find what you're looking for.

That's the main problem here. Yes, I will admit that most of the spying features can be toned-down or turned-off, but you can't turn them all off 100%. And MS has proven that with the updates that you have no control over, an update can just turn all of that back on if it so wishes to. Remember my post a few days ago about the "Immutable Laws of Security"? "#2 If the the bad guy can alter your OS on your computer, it is no longer your computer."

So that's why this "updates to avoid" list contains more than just blocking-out the nagging for upgrading to 10, but it also blocks-out the updates which add telemetry and data points to 7 and 8.1... to harvest all information about what you do, admittedly, probably not quite as bad as 10 does, but still. Before 10 came out, 7 and 8.1 only collected info on you if you opted-in to it. Now, they're trying to force it on everyone by being deceptive and misleading. That's shady, and I do not personally approve of it.



So, in summary, blocking updates does take some minor effort and vigilance, but ultimately, it is entirely optional and nobody is forcing anyone to be vigilant, either. It is entirely optional and voluntary. To each their own though.

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Linux laptop:
record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up)

So, in summary, blocking updates does take some minor effort and vigilance, but ultimately, it is entirely optional and nobody is forcing anyone to be vigilant, either. It is entirely optional and voluntary. To each their own though.

...but please, please, please keep this thread alive and up to date, cause it is momentary really the best resource for keeping your (my) flawless running 7s and 8.1s systems relatively clean - very much appreciated - thanks a lot! :)

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Aloha, Uli

Just a dumb question, does all this update avoidance take more time than hitting a close box on a advert once a day, and unchecking a box in optional updates once a week?

To answer the question absolutely literally and specifically, yes. It does take more time and effort than just closing the nagware.

But it doesn't actually take much effort. By now, I've got most of the KB numbers memorized, largely because they have shown up so many times. As I've said before though, you don't have to pour through every update that becomes available, just the ones that start with "Update for..." rather than "Security Update for..."

So that cuts down the ones that require looking-into. Once you've hidden an update, it doesn't come back unless MS updates it (which changes the unique hash for it, not the KB number), at which point, you just hide it again.


To add to what Mark said.. yes, it is a matter of principle. I have and like 7. I did play with the tech preview for 10 and I liked that, as well. What I did not know during the tech preview is that the system is so....intrusive and throws every bit of privacy that you thought you had right out the window. So on principle, I don't want 10.

7 Doesn't scan all of your emails, or index all the files on your computer--AND the contents within those files--and upload it all to "the Cloud" so that MS and advertisers can do what they please with all of it. When I search for a local file on MY computer in 7, it just searches the filesystem to find it--as it should. In 10, that same search goes and does a Bing search of the indexes that have been gathered and put into the cloud. There is literally no justifiable reason for a LOCAL file search to go to the Internet to run through a database there to find what you're looking for.

That's the main problem here. Yes, I will admit that most of the spying features can be toned-down or turned-off, but you can't turn them all off 100%. And MS has proven that with the updates that you have no control over, an update can just turn all of that back on if it so wishes to. Remember my post a few days ago about the "Immutable Laws of Security"? "#2 If the the bad guy can alter your OS on your computer, it is no longer your computer."

So that's why this "updates to avoid" list contains more than just blocking-out the nagging for upgrading to 10, but it also blocks-out the updates which add telemetry and data points to 7 and 8.1... to harvest all information about what you do, admittedly, probably not quite as bad as 10 does, but still. Before 10 came out, 7 and 8.1 only collected info on you if you opted-in to it. Now, they're trying to force it on everyone by being deceptive and misleading. That's shady, and I do not personally approve of it.



So, in summary, blocking updates does take some minor effort and vigilance, but ultimately, it is entirely optional and nobody is forcing anyone to be vigilant, either. It is entirely optional and voluntary. To each their own though.

And I Thank You Sir For keeping us updated.
Much Appreciated!

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I Desire Peace and Justice, Jim Scott (Mod-Ret.)

...but please, please, please keep this thread alive and up to date,

+1

"Eternal vigilance is the price of (intellectual, sic;) Liberty"

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

...but please, please, please keep this thread alive and up to date, cause it is momentary really the best resource for keeping your (my) flawless running 7s and 8.1s systems relatively clean - very much appreciated - thanks a lot! :)

It's just a shame that it now has no relation to what the thread was originally started for.

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Grant
Darwin NT

...but please, please, please keep this thread alive and up to date, cause it is momentary really the best resource for keeping your (my) flawless running 7s and 8.1s systems relatively clean - very much appreciated - thanks a lot! :)

It's just a shame that it now has no relation to what the thread was originally started for.

+1 lol
Otoh, apparently there are no issues with SETI Apps on Win 10, or we'd have heard of it.
Seems there's no shortage of PCs on 10 crunching.
So I guess no news is good news ...

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...but please, please, please keep this thread alive and up to date, cause it is momentary really the best resource for keeping your (my) flawless running 7s and 8.1s systems relatively clean - very much appreciated - thanks a lot! :)

It's just a shame that it now has no relation to what the thread was originally started for.

Pretty similar sentiments I've heard from Ex M$ employees over the last year.

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"Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions.

...but please, please, please keep this thread alive and up to date, cause it is momentary really the best resource for keeping your (my) flawless running 7s and 8.1s systems relatively clean - very much appreciated - thanks a lot! :)

It's just a shame that it now has no relation to what the thread was originally started for.

So...........start a new thread then.

Meow.

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"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

...but please, please, please keep this thread alive and up to date, cause it is momentary really the best resource for keeping your (my) flawless running 7s and 8.1s systems relatively clean - very much appreciated - thanks a lot! :)

It's just a shame that it now has no relation to what the thread was originally started for.

So...........start a new thread then.

Meow.

About 1,900 posts too late for that.

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Grant
Darwin NT

Greetings,

Perhaps the thread title should be changed to:

WINDOWS 10 - Just say no to Microsoft's spyware. lol

Me, I'm looking into going Linux all the way. I'm fed up with Micro$oft's antics.

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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