Bulldozer/Piledriver/Excavator/[I swear there's a fourth one, and I can never remember the name of it]

Seeing the list, you'd expect Backhoe, but no, it's Steamroller.

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Dont get me wrong Louis but your CPU times aren`t that good.
You could do better.

Really not concerned about my CPU times, a substantial jump in RAC would require an intel processor(admittedly). As far as AMD, I am doing well. If you have advice that may help, I am all ears....

That's about what I would expect from the Bulldozer/Piledriver/Excavator/[I swear there's a fourth one, and I can never remember the name of it] shared-FPU architecture, especially if you're running more than 50% of the cores (the example I looked at was ~37k seconds for 2.39% blanked).

I've got a first-gen Bulldozer (6100) at stock speeds (3.3ghz), and I run 50% of the cores to get stable times (otherwise, the elapsed times increase by 20-40%, but overall productivity doesn't increase by that much; essentially, running all six cores yields ~4 cores worth of actual production). You can see here what my Bulldozer manages in the best of conditions (half-utilized, optimized apps).


AMD on this project isn't really all that great. This project heavily favors Intel clock-for-clock, just because of the design differences of the CPU. You might be able to decrease your elapsed times (but not necessarily the overall production) by dropping down to 50% of the CPU cores in BOINC. That would also cut your heat by a bit, and you could probably squeeze more OC out of it, being water-cooled. I'm on air and mine idles at 31C, 38C at 50% load, 47C at 100%.

I have never been an intel fan simply because of the cost. Like most people here, I build my own rigs. It is actually strange that I have only one, I usually have two or three at any given time. Maybe its time to build an intel/NVidia rig.

Currently I am running 4 CPU units and 6 GPU units at a time (normally), depending on AP availability. My CPU temps hover around 42C and my GPUs around 75-80C. I have played with it a lot over the past few weeks, this seems to be my sweet spot.

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Dont get me wrong Louis but your CPU times aren`t that good.
You could do better.

Really not concerned about my CPU times, a substantial jump in RAC would require an intel processor(admittedly). As far as AMD, I am doing well. If you have advice that may help, I am all ears....

That's about what I would expect from the Bulldozer/Piledriver/Excavator/[I swear there's a fourth one, and I can never remember the name of it] shared-FPU architecture, especially if you're running more than 50% of the cores (the example I looked at was ~37k seconds for 2.39% blanked).

I've got a first-gen Bulldozer (6100) at stock speeds (3.3ghz), and I run 50% of the cores to get stable times (otherwise, the elapsed times increase by 20-40%, but overall productivity doesn't increase by that much; essentially, running all six cores yields ~4 cores worth of actual production). You can see here what my Bulldozer manages in the best of conditions (half-utilized, optimized apps).


AMD on this project isn't really all that great. This project heavily favors Intel clock-for-clock, just because of the design differences of the CPU. You might be able to decrease your elapsed times (but not necessarily the overall production) by dropping down to 50% of the CPU cores in BOINC. That would also cut your heat by a bit, and you could probably squeeze more OC out of it, being water-cooled. I'm on air and mine idles at 31C, 38C at 50% load, 47C at 100%.

I have never been an intel fan simply because of the cost. Like most people here, I build my own rigs. It is actually strange that I have only one, I usually have two or three at any given time. Maybe its time to build an intel/NVidia rig.

Currently I am running 4 CPU units and 6 GPU units at a time (normally), depending on AP availability. My CPU temps hover around 42C and my GPUs around 75-80C. I have played with it a lot over the past few weeks, this seems to be my sweet spot.

Correction; 2 CPU units and 6 GPU units...

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Microsoft responds to Windows 10 upgrade concerns.

Microsoft Marketing Chief Chris Capossela joined the Windows Weekly team this week for a questions and answers session covering HoloLens, Windows 10, Surface 4 and other Microsoft related questions.

One question touched Microsoft's upgrade push on Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 systems, and the fact that the company's methods to get users to upgrade to Windows 10 have become more aggressive.
Capossela argued that Microsoft is trying to find the right balance as it moved to Windows as a Service, and that it is trying to reduce the fragmentation of the install base by getting users to upgrade to Windows 10.

Look we made Windows 10 for free for anybody who has a Windows 7 or 8 machine. You can call that freemium if you want, but that was a decision, you know we did not take that decision lightly.
For us, it was just so incredibly important to try to end the fragmentation of the Windows install base, and so we think that every machine that is capable of running Windows 10 we should be doing everything we possibly can to get people to move to Windows 10.

We always want to give them the choice, and we are trying to find the right UI constructs, we are trying to find the right upgrade constructs that we think are going to please as many people as possible.

Another reason for pushing Windows 10 upgrades hard is that Microsoft is worried about the user experience as software or hardware may not work well or at all on older systems.

But we do worry when people are running an operating system that is 10 years old that the next printer they buy is not going to work well, or they buy a new game, they buy Fallout 4, a very popular game and it does not work on a bunch of older machines.

And so, as we are pushing our hardware partners to build great new stuff that takes advantage of Windows 10 that obviously makes the old stuff really bad and not to mention viruses and security problems. So, we really are trying to push people to get to Windows 10.

Now the good thing about Windows is that lots and lots of people care and you get constant feedback. You know, we are willing to put up with some level of discomfort if we feel like we are getting more and more people to a safer, better operating system that is frankly better for everyone in the ecosystem.

Capossela referred to automatic updates on other device types, Apple's iPhone, Microsoft's Xbox and other devices, and how people are comfortable with the mechanism on those devices, and that this change in the PC world is "slightly more uncomfortable" for people because of the PC's longstanding history.

Microsoft is aware that its pushy methods are angering some users.

We are going to keep at it. We are going to try to find that right balance, but we just know there is a lot of people out there who constantly kick the can down the street without a little bit more of a, frankly, a push.

And so, you know, there is no doubt with a base as big as ours, it is hard to move anyone to a new model without angering some people.

Microsoft will continue to push Windows 10 upgrades, and it is likely that the new operating system will be pushed even more aggressively than it is right now.

While the company is aware that its actions are angering some users, mostly those who don't want to upgrade, those user numbers seem to pale in comparison to users taking Microsoft up on the offer and upgrading their machines to the new operating system.

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Microsoft can "push" as hard as they want win 10 ain't going on my computers . Just gives me ammo when the scammers phone saying my computers have got a problem and they will sort it out for me ;-)

Greetings,

How soon before Window$ becomes ransomware? ;)

We are going to keep at it. We are going to try to find that right balance, but we just know there is are a lot of people out there who constantly kick the can down the street without a little bit more of a, frankly, a push.

That guy needs to learn proper grammar.

People will only be pushed so far before they start pushing back, such as those here dumping Window$ and moving to Linux. Or those staying with their older version of Window$, like I have done.

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Don't forget your tinfoil hats and faraday cages....

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Don't forget your tinfoil hats and faraday cages....

Those tinfoil hats would actually just act as an antenna for any mind control waves or implanted devices in someones head.

A proper Faraday cage on the other hand would be the ideal choice. By placing a computer in one it would be in no danger being forcibly updated to Windows 10.

As OS isn't something I see as idea for SaaS.

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How soon before Window$ becomes ransomware? ;)

It already is.........try getting help with an issue on Win 8.1 without buying the Tech assistance service. I had to do that last year because a 'bug' kept dropping my sync with the 'Store' on several apps. Cost me $149 to get access restored for apps that I had already purchased..........that was my 1st clue that the 'sky was falling'.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

I am sorry to come to this thread late but I have some software that needs to be looked at with regard to the w10 garbage. I did not search if this has been posted:

GWX Control Panel
This is a free tool that can remove and disable the 'Get Windows 10' notification area icon on Windows 7 and Windows 8. Recent versions can also disable 'Upgrade to Windows 10' behavior in the Windows Update control panel and do much more. See the user guide at the Ultimate Outsider blog. You can still download GWX Control Panel as a standalone executable if you don't like installers. Please see the "GWX CONTROL PANEL RELEASE NOTES" section at the user guide for MD5 and SHA-1 checksums of all official releases.

Version: 1.7.0.1
Date: December 29, 2015
Platform: PC 32/64
* Download Installer *
-or-
* Download Stand-alone *

please search gwx control panel - it works great - no need to do manual edits on updates

hope this helps - proud to have just added a win xp pc back into the team

Robert

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On a personal note - I maintain 12 pcs at work all are hp z400s (win 7 pro 64bit) - I have no desire to have to scramble to delete / disable updates that I would have no control over in w10. MS has screwed the pooch on this forced update - what a pr disaster I would think.

Robert

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Oh, please. Blaming MS for world hunger and everything else is so lame. I have upgraded to W10 without issue on several pc's and this includes my personal seti desktop. W10 saved the latter in that the PC was getting pretty slow and almost unusable. Now I have another year I suspect before I have to upgrade the hardware to keep up with the technology demands. I'm sure the W10 upgrades are not perfect but the fact they were given to us essentially for free is a positive thing. No pooch screwing here. And with regard to this forum, I suspect that most people will see no issue with the upgrade. And those who do, should tell MS so they can improve their product rather than keep it to ourselves and stew. Just sayin'.

And those who do, should tell MS so they can improve their product rather than keep it to ourselves and stew. Just sayin'.

I have told MS I do not want to upgrade, they improved their pushiness to try to get it onto my system anyway. They say it's a choice, but when push comes to shove, you have no choice. Where is the choice in:


Or in


Yes, more advanced users know that pressing the red-x will get you out of there, but all those that do not have no choice.

And then the BS about we do worry when people are running an operating system that’s 10 years old, they're not trying to force Windows 10 on Windows XP users. Neither Windows 7 (2009) nor Windows 8 (2012) is 10 years old. Either force the XP users to upgrade, or find some other reason to force your demographic to use your product because you want them to.

They want to run their OS as a service, fine with me, but as with every service, I want to have the choice whether I make use of it or not. Now they're not giving the choice.

Nice for you that your system runs quick again. That's not much of a wonder, you would've had the same experience had you clean installed Windows 7 or 8 again, as essentially that's what you just done with the Windows 10 upgrade: get rid of the underlying slow making crud. Wait a year with normal usage, normal installing of programs and apps, normal build-up of uninstalled libraries and garbage and then see how quick it still is.

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Oh, please. Blaming MS for world hunger and everything else is so lame. I have upgraded to W10 without issue on several pc's and this includes my personal seti desktop. W10 saved the latter in that the PC was getting pretty slow and almost unusable. Now I have another year I suspect before I have to upgrade the hardware to keep up with the technology demands. I'm sure the W10 upgrades are not perfect but the fact they were given to us essentially for free is a positive thing. No pooch screwing here. And with regard to this forum, I suspect that most people will see no issue with the upgrade. And those who do, should tell MS so they can improve their product rather than keep it to ourselves and stew. Just sayin'.

Who said anything about Micro$oft being responsible for world hunger?

Wait 'til you start having to pay monthly for you PCs to boot into Window$ 10. There's no such thing as a free lunch.

OMG what's the BFD? Window$ 10 being a "service" instead of software you buy, install and use. I'll be damned if I'm going to pay Micro$oft monthly to use MY PC.

Don't get me wrong, I tried Window$ 10 and I actually saw it doing many things better than my Win7 Pro 64bit. But... All the NSA and data stealing crap in it just does not cut it. It does NOT belong in an Operating System.

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

And those who do, should tell MS so they can improve their product rather than keep it to ourselves and stew. Just sayin'.

They have no interest in improving the product, just the revenue stream.......

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[/quote]They have no interest in improving the product, just the revenue stream.......[/quote]

+1 exactly what I think and bollox to them :-)

Mention of hardware not working as well, or, at all, on older systems is a bit of a sick joke. At a stroke, with Vista, MS dropped support in the OS for the humble 'game port' - much to the annoyance of just about everyone who had an MS Sidewinder 'stick with a 'game port' connection - never mind those of us with expensive CH or similar spec 'sticks! For Heaven's sake, even their own hardware became paper-weights! This of course did much for user experience, in a very negative manner and may be why XP is rightfully, still held in high regard by many.

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Don't take life too seriously, as you'll never come out of it alive!

Mention of hardware not working as well, or, at all, on older systems is a bit of a sick joke. At a stroke, with Vista, MS dropped support in the OS for the humble 'game port' - much to the annoyance of just about everyone who had an MS Sidewinder 'stick with a 'game port' connection - never mind those of us with expensive CH or similar spec 'sticks! For Heaven's sake, even their own hardware became paper-weights! This of course did much for user experience, in a very negative manner and may be why XP is rightfully, still held in high regard by many.

I must admit, I miss my Sidewinder Precision Pro. I used to play MechWarrior 4 until the wee hours of the morning (I do miss Win XP). I am a keyboard/mouse convert now, playing Hawken occasionally.

I haven't installed a Joystick in Windoze 10, not that I've needed it, but are they available and functional?

Anyhow, just my two cents worth...(if that)

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Evening all!

Just been reading a few posts on this topic, errm let me rephrase that, topics!

For them that are somewhat not sure about windows-10 or for them that know there subject.

Some say There is a big jump in Telemetry data being sent from Win-10 prior to early versions of windows.

So why not visit (for them that don't know about such tools)

O&O yes the famous O&O as in Defrag website
http://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

They do a great tool for them that may like to take a little, Errm Full control over there Rig, It's a great tool for them that know how to use it, and use it correctly.

There is also another tool called Win10 Privacy, that's got even more power under the hud, this is the one I use personally.
I can't find the link to that Sorry, though I still have a back-up of the installer.

There is also the Spybot Anti-Beacon for Windows 10
https://forums.spybot.info/showthread.php?72686-Spybot-Anti-Beacon-for-Windows-10
I can't comment on this as I've never used this one.

These Tools have a lot of features, over updates, Telemetry, Privacy & Blocking of MS Servers etc.
As with all Downloads, You use at your own Risk, Messing around under the HUD of your O.S is not for the NOOBS!

Nor is it something to take on with no Experience in knowing what you are doing.


Anyway some people are still on the bench about the subject of exactly what windows-10 is actually sending & some swear down it's crossed the line,
which is the line I subscribe too personally.

P.S
I've shown full links so people that are a little parra can relax & go at least read.

P.P.S
No I don't think there's Aliens on the Moon, nor inside it, lol! despite my username, It's just a name! :)

Peace!