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Louis Loria II Send message Joined: 20 Oct 03 Posts: 259 Credit: 9,208,040 RAC: 24 |
Don't forget your tinfoil hats and faraday cages.... |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
Don't forget your tinfoil hats and faraday cages.... Those tinfoil hats would actually just act as an antenna for any mind control waves or implanted devices in someones head. A proper Faraday cage on the other hand would be the ideal choice. By placing a computer in one it would be in no danger being forcibly updated to Windows 10. As OS isn't something I see as idea for SaaS. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
How soon before Window$ becomes ransomware? ;) It already is.........try getting help with an issue on Win 8.1 without buying the Tech assistance service. I had to do that last year because a 'bug' kept dropping my sync with the 'Store' on several apps. Cost me $149 to get access restored for apps that I had already purchased..........that was my 1st clue that the 'sky was falling'. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
far_raf Send message Joined: 26 Apr 00 Posts: 120 Credit: 47,977,058 RAC: 19 |
I am sorry to come to this thread late but I have some software that needs to be looked at with regard to the w10 garbage. I did not search if this has been posted: GWX Control Panel This is a free tool that can remove and disable the 'Get Windows 10' notification area icon on Windows 7 and Windows 8. Recent versions can also disable 'Upgrade to Windows 10' behavior in the Windows Update control panel and do much more. See the user guide at the Ultimate Outsider blog. You can still download GWX Control Panel as a standalone executable if you don't like installers. Please see the "GWX CONTROL PANEL RELEASE NOTES" section at the user guide for MD5 and SHA-1 checksums of all official releases. Version: 1.7.0.1 Date: December 29, 2015 Platform: PC 32/64 * Download Installer * -or- * Download Stand-alone * please search gwx control panel - it works great - no need to do manual edits on updates hope this helps - proud to have just added a win xp pc back into the team Robert http://allprojectstats.com/ts593244b0a.png |
far_raf Send message Joined: 26 Apr 00 Posts: 120 Credit: 47,977,058 RAC: 19 |
On a personal note - I maintain 12 pcs at work all are hp z400s (win 7 pro 64bit) - I have no desire to have to scramble to delete / disable updates that I would have no control over in w10. MS has screwed the pooch on this forced update - what a pr disaster I would think. Robert http://allprojectstats.com/ts593244b0a.png |
PhonAcq Send message Joined: 14 Apr 01 Posts: 1656 Credit: 30,658,217 RAC: 1 |
Oh, please. Blaming MS for world hunger and everything else is so lame. I have upgraded to W10 without issue on several pc's and this includes my personal seti desktop. W10 saved the latter in that the PC was getting pretty slow and almost unusable. Now I have another year I suspect before I have to upgrade the hardware to keep up with the technology demands. I'm sure the W10 upgrades are not perfect but the fact they were given to us essentially for free is a positive thing. No pooch screwing here. And with regard to this forum, I suspect that most people will see no issue with the upgrade. And those who do, should tell MS so they can improve their product rather than keep it to ourselves and stew. Just sayin'. |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
And those who do, should tell MS so they can improve their product rather than keep it to ourselves and stew. Just sayin'. I have told MS I do not want to upgrade, they improved their pushiness to try to get it onto my system anyway. They say it's a choice, but when push comes to shove, you have no choice. Where is the choice in: Or in Yes, more advanced users know that pressing the red-x will get you out of there, but all those that do not have no choice. And then the BS about we do worry when people are running an operating system that’s 10 years old, they're not trying to force Windows 10 on Windows XP users. Neither Windows 7 (2009) nor Windows 8 (2012) is 10 years old. Either force the XP users to upgrade, or find some other reason to force your demographic to use your product because you want them to. They want to run their OS as a service, fine with me, but as with every service, I want to have the choice whether I make use of it or not. Now they're not giving the choice. Nice for you that your system runs quick again. That's not much of a wonder, you would've had the same experience had you clean installed Windows 7 or 8 again, as essentially that's what you just done with the Windows 10 upgrade: get rid of the underlying slow making crud. Wait a year with normal usage, normal installing of programs and apps, normal build-up of uninstalled libraries and garbage and then see how quick it still is. |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
Oh, please. Blaming MS for world hunger and everything else is so lame. I have upgraded to W10 without issue on several pc's and this includes my personal seti desktop. W10 saved the latter in that the PC was getting pretty slow and almost unusable. Now I have another year I suspect before I have to upgrade the hardware to keep up with the technology demands. I'm sure the W10 upgrades are not perfect but the fact they were given to us essentially for free is a positive thing. No pooch screwing here. And with regard to this forum, I suspect that most people will see no issue with the upgrade. And those who do, should tell MS so they can improve their product rather than keep it to ourselves and stew. Just sayin'. Who said anything about Micro$oft being responsible for world hunger? Wait 'til you start having to pay monthly for you PCs to boot into Window$ 10. There's no such thing as a free lunch. OMG what's the BFD? Window$ 10 being a "service" instead of software you buy, install and use. I'll be damned if I'm going to pay Micro$oft monthly to use MY PC. Don't get me wrong, I tried Window$ 10 and I actually saw it doing many things better than my Win7 Pro 64bit. But... All the NSA and data stealing crap in it just does not cut it. It does NOT belong in an Operating System. Keep on BOINCing...! :) CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
And those who do, should tell MS so they can improve their product rather than keep it to ourselves and stew. Just sayin'.They have no interest in improving the product, just the revenue stream....... "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Mark Stevenson Send message Joined: 8 Sep 11 Posts: 1736 Credit: 174,899,165 RAC: 91 |
[/quote]They have no interest in improving the product, just the revenue stream.......[/quote] +1 exactly what I think and bollox to them :-) |
Iona Send message Joined: 12 Jul 07 Posts: 790 Credit: 22,438,118 RAC: 0 |
Mention of hardware not working as well, or, at all, on older systems is a bit of a sick joke. At a stroke, with Vista, MS dropped support in the OS for the humble 'game port' - much to the annoyance of just about everyone who had an MS Sidewinder 'stick with a 'game port' connection - never mind those of us with expensive CH or similar spec 'sticks! For Heaven's sake, even their own hardware became paper-weights! This of course did much for user experience, in a very negative manner and may be why XP is rightfully, still held in high regard by many. Don't take life too seriously, as you'll never come out of it alive! |
Louis Loria II Send message Joined: 20 Oct 03 Posts: 259 Credit: 9,208,040 RAC: 24 |
Mention of hardware not working as well, or, at all, on older systems is a bit of a sick joke. At a stroke, with Vista, MS dropped support in the OS for the humble 'game port' - much to the annoyance of just about everyone who had an MS Sidewinder 'stick with a 'game port' connection - never mind those of us with expensive CH or similar spec 'sticks! For Heaven's sake, even their own hardware became paper-weights! This of course did much for user experience, in a very negative manner and may be why XP is rightfully, still held in high regard by many. I must admit, I miss my Sidewinder Precision Pro. I used to play MechWarrior 4 until the wee hours of the morning (I do miss Win XP). I am a keyboard/mouse convert now, playing Hawken occasionally. I haven't installed a Joystick in Windoze 10, not that I've needed it, but are they available and functional? Anyhow, just my two cents worth...(if that) |
Alienmoon Send message Joined: 14 Oct 13 Posts: 14 Credit: 386,618 RAC: 0 |
Evening all! Just been reading a few posts on this topic, errm let me rephrase that, topics! For them that are somewhat not sure about windows-10 or for them that know there subject. Some say There is a big jump in Telemetry data being sent from Win-10 prior to early versions of windows. So why not visit (for them that don't know about such tools) O&O yes the famous O&O as in Defrag website http://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 They do a great tool for them that may like to take a little, Errm Full control over there Rig, It's a great tool for them that know how to use it, and use it correctly. There is also another tool called Win10 Privacy, that's got even more power under the hud, this is the one I use personally. I can't find the link to that Sorry, though I still have a back-up of the installer. There is also the Spybot Anti-Beacon for Windows 10 https://forums.spybot.info/showthread.php?72686-Spybot-Anti-Beacon-for-Windows-10 I can't comment on this as I've never used this one. These Tools have a lot of features, over updates, Telemetry, Privacy & Blocking of MS Servers etc. As with all Downloads, You use at your own Risk, Messing around under the HUD of your O.S is not for the NOOBS! Nor is it something to take on with no Experience in knowing what you are doing. Anyway some people are still on the bench about the subject of exactly what windows-10 is actually sending & some swear down it's crossed the line, which is the line I subscribe too personally. P.S I've shown full links so people that are a little parra can relax & go at least read. P.P.S No I don't think there's Aliens on the Moon, nor inside it, lol! despite my username, It's just a name! :) Peace! |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
Sad, but Win10 x64 not only spy on you, it's just SLOWER than Vista x86 (!): Vista x86: WU : PG0009_v7.wu setiathome_8.00_windows_intelx86.exe -verb -nog : Elapsed 687.071 secs CPU 683.690 secs MB8_win_x86_SSE_VS2008_r3280.exe : Elapsed 752.248 secs, speedup: -9.49% ratio: 0.91x CPU 749.912 secs, speedup: -9.69% ratio: 0.91x MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r3256.exe : Elapsed 132.475 secs, speedup: 80.72% ratio: 5.19x CPU 28.158 secs, speedup: 95.88% ratio: 24.28x MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r3299.exe : Elapsed 132.631 secs, speedup: 80.70% ratio: 5.18x CPU 27.082 secs, speedup: 96.04% ratio: 25.25x MB8_win_x86_SSE3_VS2008_r3299.exe : Elapsed 498.186 secs, speedup: 27.49% ratio: 1.38x CPU 495.896 secs, speedup: 27.47% ratio: 1.38x WU : PG0395_v7.wu setiathome_8.00_windows_intelx86.exe -verb -nog : Elapsed 808.595 secs CPU 805.168 secs MB8_win_x86_SSE_VS2008_r3280.exe : Elapsed 604.313 secs, speedup: 25.26% ratio: 1.34x CPU 601.992 secs, speedup: 25.23% ratio: 1.34x 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speedup: 38.70% ratio: 1.63x CPU 450.094 secs, speedup: 38.73% ratio: 1.63x WU : PG1327_v7.wu setiathome_8.00_windows_intelx86.exe -verb -nog : Elapsed 499.871 secs CPU 496.567 secs MB8_win_x86_SSE_VS2008_r3280.exe : Elapsed 565.890 secs, speedup: -13.21% ratio: 0.88x CPU 563.554 secs, speedup: -13.49% ratio: 0.88x MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r3256.exe : Elapsed 73.960 secs, speedup: 85.20% ratio: 6.76x CPU 20.655 secs, speedup: 95.84% ratio: 24.04x MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r3299.exe : Elapsed 73.960 secs, speedup: 85.20% ratio: 6.76x CPU 17.550 secs, speedup: 96.47% ratio: 28.29x MB8_win_x86_SSE3_VS2008_r3299.exe : Elapsed 426.551 secs, speedup: 14.67% ratio: 1.17x CPU 424.260 secs, speedup: 14.56% ratio: 1.17x WU : reference_work_unit_v8_r3215.wu setiathome_8.00_windows_intelx86.exe -verb -nog : Elapsed 3892.964 secs CPU 3889.292 secs MB8_win_x86_SSE_VS2008_r3280.exe : Elapsed 3156.395 secs, speedup: 18.92% ratio: 1.23x CPU 3153.342 secs, speedup: 18.92% ratio: 1.23x MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r3256.exe : Elapsed 331.438 secs, speedup: 91.49% ratio: 11.75x CPU 60.622 secs, speedup: 98.44% ratio: 64.16x [color=limegreen]MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r3299.exe : Elapsed 328.411 secs, speedup: 91.56% ratio: 11.85x CPU 46.207 secs, speedup: 98.81% ratio: 84.17x MB8_win_x86_SSE3_VS2008_r3299.exe : Elapsed 2488.933 secs, speedup: 36.07% ratio: 1.56x CPU 2485.985 secs, speedup: 36.08% ratio: 1.56x[/color] And same host under Win10 IP x64: WU : PG0009_v7.wu setiathome_8.00_windows_intelx86.exe -verb -nog : Elapsed 687.071 secs CPU 683.690 secs Elapsed 484.336 secs, speedup: 29.51% ratio: 1.42x CPU 466.500 secs, speedup: 31.77% ratio: 1.47x MB8_win_x86_SSE_VS2008_r3280.exe : Elapsed 761.556 secs, speedup: -10.84% ratio: 0.90x CPU 755.078 secs, speedup: -10.44% ratio: 0.91x MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r3256.exe : Elapsed 147.224 secs, speedup: 78.57% ratio: 4.67x CPU 45.188 secs, speedup: 93.39% ratio: 15.13x 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secs, speedup: 35.61% ratio: 1.55x WU : PG0444_v7.wu setiathome_8.00_windows_intelx86.exe -verb -nog : Elapsed 738.052 secs CPU 734.640 secs Elapsed 408.319 secs, speedup: 44.68% ratio: 1.81x CPU 406.000 secs, speedup: 44.73% ratio: 1.81x MB8_win_x86_SSE_VS2008_r3280.exe : Elapsed 564.329 secs, speedup: 23.54% ratio: 1.31x CPU 561.969 secs, speedup: 23.50% ratio: 1.31x MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r3256.exe : Elapsed 75.226 secs, speedup: 89.81% ratio: 9.81x CPU 39.094 secs, speedup: 94.68% ratio: 18.79x MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r3299.exe : Elapsed 74.949 secs, speedup: 89.85% ratio: 9.85x CPU 34.938 secs, speedup: 95.24% ratio: 21.03x MB8_win_x86_SSE3_VS2008_r3299.exe : Elapsed 500.662 secs, speedup: 32.16% ratio: 1.47x CPU 498.406 secs, speedup: 32.16% ratio: 1.47x WU : PG1327_v7.wu setiathome_8.00_windows_intelx86.exe -verb -nog : Elapsed 499.871 secs CPU 496.567 secs Elapsed 373.246 secs, speedup: 25.33% ratio: 1.34x CPU 370.875 secs, speedup: 25.31% ratio: 1.34x 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96.35% ratio: 27.39x MB8_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r3299.exe : Elapsed 344.795 secs, speedup: 91.14% ratio: 11.29x CPU 119.984 secs, speedup: 96.92% ratio: 32.42x MB8_win_x86_SSE3_VS2008_r3299.exe : Elapsed 2603.311 secs, speedup: 33.13% ratio: 1.50x CPU 2600.406 secs, speedup: 33.14% ratio: 1.50x Actually it's the first time I see so bright slowdown switching from x86 to x64 OS on capable hardware.... :( And slowdown even greater considering not CPU but GPU part... I need x64 OS for this host cause 8GB memory installed now, but such slowdown definitely requires something else than Win10 x64 for good crunching, pity :/ (and to make it absolute clear - both listed tests were run with IDENTICAL hardware configuration, AFTER memory update. Update itself showed little speedup under Vista). EDIT: both these run were done on "idle" CPU (Q9450). It's artifical config for this host though used routinely in benchmarking. Real production crunching done on fully loaded CPU of course. So I'll load remaining 3 cores with BOINC and repeat under real life conditions. Actually don't really hope that result will be different though :/ |
Iona Send message Joined: 12 Jul 07 Posts: 790 Credit: 22,438,118 RAC: 0 |
Not too sure what you mean. If you mean, can you still get the MS 'sticks, the answer is, no, not new ones, that is...they only seem to pander to X-Box users for controllers. One can of course still get 'sticks, but they'd have to be a USB connection for anything after Win XP. Maybe you're wondering if you can use a USB/gameport adapter? Oddly enough, many 'sticks will work in a fashion using one, except the Sidewinder! Even the favoured Rockfire unit can't get those working. Personally, I'm having to 'bite the bullet' and look at the Saitek X55 or the Thrustmaster Warthog and 'sticks are becoming more popular due to games like EVE, Elite Dangerous and, of course, Star Citizen. Don't take life too seriously, as you'll never come out of it alive! |
qbit Send message Joined: 19 Sep 04 Posts: 630 Credit: 6,868,528 RAC: 0 |
I'm getting really, really annoyed by the stupid W10 ad which pops up every single time I boot up one of my computers. It should be obvious that I do not want W10 after clicking away this stupid ad numerous times. But it still keeps popping up:-( I will soon send an email to MS about this but right now I want to do something to stop this nonsense. So pls advise me, what exactly do I have to do so I never see this damn ad again? Is it enough to deinstall some upgrades? Registry maybe? No third party programs pls. Oh, BTW, 2 of my computers run W8.1, my cruncher runs W7. (Home, all three) |
woohoo Send message Joined: 30 Oct 13 Posts: 973 Credit: 165,671,404 RAC: 5 |
gwx control panel? |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34380 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
I'm getting really, really annoyed by the stupid W10 ad which pops up every single time I boot up one of my computers. It should be obvious that I do not want W10 after clicking away this stupid ad numerous times. But it still keeps popping up:-( Disable updates. Thats what i did years ago. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
Cosmic_Ocean Send message Joined: 23 Dec 00 Posts: 3027 Credit: 13,516,867 RAC: 13 |
I'm getting really, really annoyed by the stupid W10 ad which pops up every single time I boot up one of my computers. It should be obvious that I do not want W10 after clicking away this stupid ad numerous times. But it still keeps popping up:-( Remove all of these updates. There are two methods: 1) manually by finding them in "installed updates" 2) open an administrative command prompt and do wusa /uninstall /kb:[number] /norestartfor each one. There is a '/quiet' option, but it makes it more difficult to know if it is actually doing anything or even if it is done. Once done, you can restart the computer. From this point, there are two options: 1) Turn updates off 2) Continue to allow updates, but you'll need to change the settings over to "let me choose what to download and install" and look at the list of available updates and see if any of the above KB numbers are there. If there are any, right-click > Hide update. You'll have to do that a bunch the first few times after removing all of those updates. But you'll have to keep an eye out for them from now on. I research every new update that is presented to me to decide if I want it or not, but most people don't have the time or desire to do so. Linux laptop: record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up) |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22532 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Remembering that some of the updates are rather reluctant to be hidden, taking two or three attempts before they finally submit :-( Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
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