Dad DOES NOT do hardware; NOR software... He can BARELY use a computer; if he had his way, he'd still have a typewriter!!!

Well, typewriter is still a Technology despite mechanical ...

I wonder what our grand grandfathers said in the old days ;)
Maybe "Kick that stupid noisy typewriter, it gives me a headache! I will stick to my good ol' pencil"

And what our grandchildren will say to us in not too distant future ;)

-- Hey, grandpa, you call that big thing on the table "a computer"??

Everyone knows that computer is what you connect directly to your brain.
Mine is implanted in my body since I was born.
But I think I want a new implant, it's very cool...
The new model from B-Soft BrainSwarm™ connects you to the BrainCloud® and you can see and feel and share all you do to 1000's of brains non-stop
It's very cool and it's beyond me why you old people don't want it...
 

Lol, and this will be last semi-sentient human generation on Earth. Cause newly developed neural virus will make them vegetables :)

I have a nice German manual typewriter I have had since my youth.
I suspect if the world goes down, I shall have to use it.

But, of course, then the mail would go down as well.

Meowsigh.

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"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

welcome back . meow :-)

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Dad DOES NOT do hardware; NOR software... He can BARELY use a computer; if he had his way, he'd still have a typewriter!!!

Well, typewriter is still a Technology despite mechanical ...

I wonder what our grand grandfathers said in the old days ;)
Maybe "Kick that stupid noisy typewriter, it gives me a headache! I will stick to my good ol' pencil"

And what our grandchildren will say to us in not too distant future ;)

-- Hey, grandpa, you call that big thing on the table "a computer"??

Everyone knows that computer is what you connect directly to your brain.
Mine is implanted in my body since I was born.
But I think I want a new implant, it's very cool...
The new model from B-Soft BrainSwarm™ connects you to the BrainCloud® and you can see and feel and share all you do to 1000's of brains non-stop
It's very cool and it's beyond me why you old people don't want it...
 

We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

There was also an episode of SG-1 where everyone's brains were wired into the central computer. Whenever somebody got uppity (questioning the authority of the computer or whatever information it gave them), it would order somebody to kill that person and then modify the memories of everyone else so that the person had effectively never existed.

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David
Sitting on my butt while others boldly go,
Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri.

Dad DOES NOT do hardware; NOR software... He can BARELY use a computer; if he had his way, he'd still have a typewriter!!!

Well, typewriter is still a Technology despite mechanical ...

I wonder what our grand grandfathers said in the old days ;)
Maybe "Kick that stupid noisy typewriter, it gives me a headache! I will stick to my good ol' pencil"

And what our grandchildren will say to us in not too distant future ;)

-- Hey, grandpa, you call that big thing on the table "a computer"??

Everyone knows that computer is what you connect directly to your brain.
Mine is implanted in my body since I was born.
But I think I want a new implant, it's very cool...
The new model from B-Soft BrainSwarm™ connects you to the BrainCloud® and you can see and feel and share all you do to 1000's of brains non-stop
It's very cool and it's beyond me why you old people don't want it...
 

We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

There was also an episode of SG-1 where everyone's brains were wired into the central computer. Whenever somebody got uppity (questioning the authority of the computer or whatever information it gave them), it would order somebody to kill that person and then modify the memories of everyone else so that the person had effectively never existed.

When I typed that I didn't used any sources - I was thinking of Windows 10, Facebook, Android, the newest mini-micro-flat-portable-touchable things and the way teenagers are eager to make "friends" online ...

I just coined names B-Soft BrainSwarm™ BrainCloud®
But now when you say "an episode of SG-1" have similar plot I asked myself: am I the first to "invent" these ™ and ®

The funny thing is - They Already Exist!
http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22B-Soft%22

http://www.fastcompany.com/3014839/leadership-now/shelter-from-the-storm-why-brainswarming-is-the-future-of-collaboration
https://hbr.org/video/3373616535001/brainswarming-because-brainstorming-doesnt-work

http://braincloud.jhmi.edu/
http://getbraincloud.com/

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- ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :)
 

Gee, when it comes to "brain cloud", I think Joe Versus the Volcano got the jump on everybody, 25 years ago!

Dr. Ellison (Robert Stack) diagnoses an incurable disease called a "brain cloud" which has no symptoms, but will kill Joe within five or six months.

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here it comes, if you want it or not... Microsoft sets stage for massive Windows 10 upgrade strategy

Microsoft has been preparing Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 PCs for a more aggressive Windows 10 upgrade strategy that the company will kick off shortly, according to the developer of a tool that blocks such upgrades.

"Over Thanksgiving weekend I started getting reports that the Windows Update 'AllowOSUpgrade' setting was getting flipped back on on a number of peoples' PCs, and it keeps re-setting itself at least once a day if they switch it back off," said Josh Mayfield, the software engineer who created GWX Control Panel.

...

There's more to those updates than that, Mayfield argued. "They're telling [the PC's] Windows Update client that this computer can be upgraded to Windows 10," Mayfield said. "[The Windows Update client] is constantly checking settings several times an hour. It's fully aware of the Windows 10 upgrade."

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The new push will be a two-step process, with the first kicking in this year, the second in early 2016. First, Microsoft will add the Windows 10 upgrade to the Windows Update list on Windows 7 and 8.1 systems as an "optional" item. That list can be examined by users, letting them choose -- or not -- each optional update.

Sometime next year, Microsoft will shift the Windows 10 upgrade from optional to the "recommended" list. Updates on that list are automatically downloaded and installed on most PCs.

Happy hunting!

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And I finally got my fathers machine back to Win 7. It seems Microsoft is planning on making it impossible for him to keep it that way. :(

Steve

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Warning, addicted to SETI crunching!
Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group.
GPUUG Website

Just turn updates of.
You can still install important updates manual.
I have set my machine this way since the very first day.

Trust no one.

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With each crime and every kindness we birth our future.

Annnnd this is why I research every single update that shows up on my laptop, and then go into WSUS and decline those updates before they reach my desktop.

I've been saying since.. July that new Update Clients are inherently not to be trusted. I have gotten a comment or two in this thread regarding that standpoint being pretty close to--if not outright--FUD. But now, it appears, that my initial standpoint on updates to, and totally new Update Clients are where the main concerns should be focused. Not to be brash, but... "I told you so" or "called it!" *shrug* Is what it is though.

I told my father a couple weeks ago that pretty soon, it would probably just be easiest to turn Windows Update off, since he not only had every win7 update on my list of updates to avoid, but had unknowingly told the upgrade to 10 to go ahead. It failed.. after four hours of trying to upgrade, and failed with an error that the hardware specs were not good enough for 10..... yet immediately after restarting from the failed install, it started over with nagging to upgrade to 10. I guess it isn't aware that it failed because the hardware isn't good enough.

I tried the 'AllowOSupgrade' registry key, and that did absolutely nothing. So I ended up making a batch file out of my list and ran it in an administrative command prompt. Took a good 15 minutes, but once it was done, I had to wait 3 hours for "checking for updates" to start from scratch, and then started hiding updates after more updates after more updates. One of them showed up as critical seven times before it finally stopped appearing. Once that process was done, I changed the settings to "check for updates, but let me choose what to download and install" and told him not to do anything, and when the notification happens that there are updates, call me and I'll use Team Viewer to manage it. That's when I said that before long, we'll just turn updates off entirely for simplicity.

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Linux laptop:
record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up)

Just turn updates of.
You can still install important updates manual.
I have set my machine this way since the very first day.

Trust no one.

I may have to do that, but that means I have to keep logging into my fathers computer, and I never do that unless he knows I am doing so. I like it when I don't have to mess with his system, but at least he is back to Win 7 for now.

Steve

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Warning, addicted to SETI crunching!
Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group.
GPUUG Website

I still have one computer on Win 10, but my primary computer will stay on Win 7.

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I really don't understand the angst. I have Win 10 Pro, all updates included and have had no problems, lately anyhow. I have turned off all of the tracking and I don't need or use Cortana, on my desktop at least. My phone is a different situation altogether, it also works quite well though.

I have had more problems with the CCC drivers than anything else. They are stable just short of Crimson.

Yes, Win 10 gave me problems in the beginning (I've been in the Insider Program since very nearly the start). Now though, everything seems to be working quite well.

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After everything I have read and heard, I will TRY win10 on my laptop(currently win8 which sucks canal water at low tide). If that fails I will try to find an upgrade to win7 for it.

Or I might have an old copy of vista laying around..

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Janice

Still running vista on my main machine and its going to stay that way for the time being.

Got myself a laptop, I was told it had win 10 pre-installed but that sort of disappeared under a linux mint install.

I am now spending my spare time at work playing with it and learning to RTFM so I don't have to ask too many stupid questions.

I have not yet tried to install Boinc, but that is because I am using it on battery most of the time.

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Kevin

Still running vista on my main machine and its going to stay that way for the time being.

Got myself a laptop, I was told it had win 10 pre-installed but that sort of disappeared under a linux mint install.

I am now spending my spare time at work playing with it and learning to RTFM so I don't have to ask too many stupid questions.

I have not yet tried to install Boinc, but that is because I am using it on battery most of the time.

It is too bad you had to pay for Win10 in the laptop price even though you loaded Linux on it. M$ still wins. Not only did you pay for Win10 but they do not have to worry about providing support, not that they would.

It would be nice if and when Windows goes SaaS that it came free and you only paid by the month/year when you started using it (register it) but I am sure they would still charge for the software first.

It is too bad you had to pay for Win10 in the laptop price even though you loaded Linux on it. M$ still wins. Not only did you pay for Win10 but they do not have to worry about providing support, not that they would.

Due to work and other commitments I have problems with parcel delivery services, I also prefur to buy locally if the price is reasonable, it was and it met all the specs that I wanted.

The only thing that I should have done that I forgot until it was to late was to get the win10 key, it was not included in the documentation. OTOH I have got other legit win versions that I could use.

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Kevin

Just turn updates of.
You can still install important updates manual.
I have set my machine this way since the very first day.

Trust no one.

Greetings Mike,

Exact-a-mundo! :)

That is what I did once I had Win7 cleanly installed, for the third time I believe, and updated up to May this year. Once I got there, I turn Updates off and I see nothing from Micro$oft anymore. This is one PC that Micro$oft will NOT gain control of.

But! What about legitimate updates? Is there anything 'legitimate' when it comes to Micro$oft? Reading this thread tends to answer that question with a resounding NO!

As you said: "Trust no one." I do not trust Micro$oft in the slightest little bit.

I read that article linked by Jord and I am baffled. How can a huge company like Micro$oft be allowed to get away with what they are doing? They are literally commandeering every PC from unknowing victims. Some here, at least one that I know of, says there is no problem with his Window$ 10 install. Yeah right! That person no longer has control of 'updates'. Now, anything nefarious that Micro$oft wants on that PC will go on that PC no-matter-what. I will NOT turn control of my PC over to Micro$oft.

Who's to say that down the road Micro$oft won't control what a user can and cannot do on the Internet? Who's to say that Micro$oft won't put an end to distributed computing by making devices (GPUs) no longer work properly because of drivers? I'm seeing it here already, people having trouble with drivers no longer working or drivers from Micro$oft commandeering the device over the manufacturers driver(s).

Ok, enough of this. I got other things to do. ;)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Windows Update patches KB 3112336 and KB 3112343 are all about Windows 10
They have been promoted to Important Updates and are checked by default.

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Windows Update patches KB 3112336 and KB 3112343 are all about Windows 10
They have been promoted to Important Updates and are checked by default.

Hi Jord,

Yep! Another great reason to turn off Window$ Updates, no security/bug fix updates for Win7 or 8.1. I read the comments and here's what one person said:

"Can you find one single patch this year that's designed to improve Windows 7 or 8.1 for regular ol' customers?" <-- Authors statement

Why would Microsoft be improving those at this stage? <-- His comment

DUH!!! If Micro$oft is going to support those OSs for the next 5 years, or whatever, they sure as hell better be putting out security and bug fix updates for them.

Some people just don't have a clue... :|

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath