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Message 1743776 - Posted: 21 Nov 2015, 4:28:02 UTC

Greetings

Well I have 1 of 3 computers successfully running 2 x NVIDIA GPU's on Linux Mint 17.2 (KDE desktop).

A big thankyou to Fawkesguy for his post on using sgfxi, I finally got it to work.

Now I have a simple joblist to do for my next computer switchover.

Unfortunately I will still have to sit one computer on Win7 due to it mainly being a family computer but I thats fine with me.

Okay happy crunching

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Message 1743783 - Posted: 21 Nov 2015, 5:50:20 UTC - in response to Message 1743776.  

tazzduke, that's great! Glad you got it worked out. :-)
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Message 1743795 - Posted: 21 Nov 2015, 6:26:14 UTC - in response to Message 1743713.  

Get ready to pay $40/month for that Virgin Mobile prepaid phone come January 2016. I got a Virgin message saying that they are imposing the California prepaid phone surcharge come New Year's.

California Prepaid Phone Surcharge

I can always request to unlock My Samsung Galaxy Ring phone and then switch to Sprint, they have a $20 rate, that with that tax would save Me $10 a month and still be unlimited like My current plan is and why not? I'm using the Sprint network on My phone now, may as well make it official if I can swing it.
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Message 1744621 - Posted: 24 Nov 2015, 23:55:19 UTC
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The first big Windows 10 update removes several applications without asking you if it should do so because it finds these are incompatible with Windows 10.

Apps included are CPUID, CPU-Z and Speccy. It will also remove versions of Steam, Origin, Adobe CS and Android Studio. It also removes the AMD Catalyst Control Center and then installs its own drivers instead. All can be reinstalled on Windows 10 without further problems, or until the next update of course and it deems these programs to be incompatible again. ;-)

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Message 1744697 - Posted: 25 Nov 2015, 8:20:04 UTC - in response to Message 1744621.  

The first big Windows 10 update removes several applications without asking you if it should do so because it finds these are incompatible with Windows 10.

Apps included are CPUID, CPU-Z and Speccy. It will also remove versions of Steam, Origin, Adobe CS and Android Studio. It also removes the AMD Catalyst Control Center and then installs its own drivers instead. All can be reinstalled on Windows 10 without further problems, or until the next update of course and it deems these programs to be incompatible again. ;-)

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ROFL, "this PC" becomes "their's PC" actually.

Next will be "Non-approved video blocked" and "News you read don't compatible with BB point of view, site blocked"
And indeed, why housewife needs to know that her glory country supports international terrorism?...
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Message 1744804 - Posted: 25 Nov 2015, 16:51:52 UTC

Yesterday Microsoft released an update that reversed something that the November Update did: When the November update was installed, a few settings preferences may have inadvertently not been retained for advertising ID, Background apps, SmartScreen Filter, and Sync with devices.

Just so you know, that they can and will change your privacy settings when they find it necessary and the users are lulled into a false sense of security.
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Message 1744814 - Posted: 25 Nov 2015, 17:21:33 UTC

I have one Window$ 8.1 rig that insists I have updates waiting to download every time I start it and when I go to Updates it tells me there are no downloads available.....Good 'ole M$, they have NO idea what they're doing........patches issued to fix patches that didn't need patches in the first place.

I just recommissioned and upgraded another old Xeon workstation with a new SSD C: Drive and I was able to reinstall the Win 7 system that was previously on the machine with no problems. Guess they haven't gone totally draconian on that O$(yet),

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Message 1744923 - Posted: 26 Nov 2015, 1:34:17 UTC

I installed the November major update. It took all night. Privacy settings were OK. I installed the latest Virtual Box release to run CERN Programs. All seems OK.
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Message 1744983 - Posted: 26 Nov 2015, 9:14:53 UTC - in response to Message 1744923.  

I would have to say nay

Far too early to be released.
I put it on my quad tablet and no camera and a lot of random locks. Way more developing needed. The major thing that got me is the spy crap they placed in.

Big Brother in action

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Message 1745000 - Posted: 26 Nov 2015, 11:03:35 UTC

The main advantage of this update is that it killed all BOINC screensavers, which were a pain when I wanted to log in. Now logging is faster.
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Message 1745849 - Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 16:03:00 UTC

Parents bought new HP Envy Desktop system on the 28th. Spent a day and a half backing up ALL their stuff from the old system; then, spent yesterday tweaking Win 10 Home on the new system, (before transferring ANYTHING over), of course being Win 10 Home, Automatic Updates kicked in... Apparently there is a NEWER version of Win 10 Home that it downloaded and installed while I watched in horror... I knew that something wasn't going to be right with it...

Sure enough, upon rebooting into the NEW and SUPPOSEDLY IMPROVED Win 10 Home, the built in Intel Wireless card was NO LONGER VISIBLE in Networking, and thus dropped the connection to the Network... FRAKKING thing took over an hour to install the NEW Win 10 Home, and took almost as long to Revert back to the original Win 10 Home. Thankfully, upon reverting, the Wireless card picked right back up and started working again...

At this point, I chose to immediately Upgrade to Win 10 Pro!!! Took 20 Min. to complete that Upgrade... (WTF???? Where is MickeySloth's head at???)

Now to my question:

I copied my OLD BOINC Data Folder from my parents' old system. (Win 7) Where in Win 10 do I deposit this copied BOINC Data Folder??? I want to make sure I keep the original ID's for SETI and SETI Beta on the new Win 10 Pro system.

(This may have been asked before; but as LOOOOONG as this Thread is, I didn't want to try digging through, and possibly miss the answer.)

Thanks in advance.


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Message 1745883 - Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 19:59:53 UTC - in response to Message 1745849.  

Exactly the same place as it was in the other OS C:\Programdata\BOINC\projects\setihome.Berkeley.edu

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Message 1745904 - Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 20:58:34 UTC - in response to Message 1745883.  
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Exactly the same place as it was in the other OS C:\Programdata\BOINC\projects\setihome.Berkeley.edu

Thank you. I got the BOINC Data Folder transferred, went to the Projects' Folder and removed the Lunatics that was installed on the old machine, got BOINC 7.4.42 installed, (I don't want 7.6.9), and now I'm installing Lunatics 0.43b.

I deactivated CPU crunching in Lunatics, and enabled the Intel graphics card to crunch. BOINC downloaded four work units, and is crunching. The Intel card is a 530. The system is an i5-6400 Quad Core at 2.7 GHz. System has 12 GB RAM. Current RAC on this system is 0.06 as gathered from the original BOINC Data transferred to the new system.

Does this system look OK??? It's on the stock Win 10 Intel Drivers; and so far seems to be running...

Computer ID: 7066606


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Message 1745917 - Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 22:39:01 UTC

OK - I miscounted... There were 6 units downloaded to 7066606 - Farragut. I allowed 1 to finish; the others are Suspended right now.

The unit that finished is Pending; but, I'm still unsure about the Video Driver...


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Message 1745946 - Posted: 1 Dec 2015, 0:01:46 UTC - in response to Message 1745917.  
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There are some strange goings on in your stdrr file but I am afraid it is beyond me.
You should perhaps run the others and hope to check your results and see if they validate. (no one has finished yet)
However it sure looks like something is not set up correctly.

It certainly appears that you have something incorrect. However it does not appear to have anything with your driver setup.

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Message 1745978 - Posted: 1 Dec 2015, 3:22:44 UTC - in response to Message 1745946.  
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There are some strange goings on in your stdrr file but I am afraid it is beyond me.
You should perhaps run the others and hope to check your results and see if they validate. (no one has finished yet)
However it sure looks like something is not set up correctly.

It certainly appears that you have something incorrect. However it does not appear to have anything with your driver setup.

Well, I don't know what that would be; because the system is 2 Days New... I'm still installing software on it. I'm toward the end of my installation run; only have iTunes, and then O&O Security for Win 10 to go yet. PCMatic is running tests, scanning the system for the first time, and defragging the 1 TB HD.

As for drivers; all are stock from MS or Intel. I went to Intel for grins and giggles, installed a driver update tool that they claim scans the system for Intel hardware, checks the software versions, and recommends updates as needed. The only thing that came up was a driver for the Intel 802.11 AC Wireless card. So, I guess I'm stuck with the Win 10 drivers for the Video Card... :-(

Once PCMatic is done, I will Resume the remaining five tasks for the GPU.


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Message 1746099 - Posted: 1 Dec 2015, 13:30:32 UTC
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I have used Win 10 for a while now, and am used to it. What I don't like is its determination to be installed regardless of user preferences. Yes, we here can remove certain updates, even when they are re-released, or do other hacks to prevent it from installing, but my aging father accidentally installed it, after I had told him not to. He is too old and computer illiterate to deal with the changes. Now, I will have to log on remotely, and roll back the installation to Win 7. What Microsoft doesn't seem to understand, is that sometimes change is not good. I was far more tolerant of Win 10, when it hadn't affected my father. Now, I am quite upset. I wish there was a single switch that told Microsoft "No I don't want this installed." and be done with it.

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Edit: My father is 1500 miles away from me, so it's not like I can hop in the car, and go fix things.
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Message 1746101 - Posted: 1 Dec 2015, 13:49:39 UTC

What Microsoft doesn't seem to understand, is that sometimes change is not good.
Understanding has nothing to do with the situation, Micro$oft flat out doesn't care! As long as the $ keeps flowing in they will exercise extreme indifference to the wishes of their O$ slaves. Kinda like most Governments.

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Message 1746110 - Posted: 1 Dec 2015, 15:09:52 UTC - in response to Message 1745978.  
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As for drivers; all are stock from MS or Intel. I went to Intel for grins and giggles, installed a driver update tool that they claim scans the system for Intel hardware, checks the software versions, and recommends updates as needed. The only thing that came up was a driver for the Intel 802.11 AC Wireless card. So, I guess I'm stuck with the Win 10 drivers for the Video Card... :-(
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I have had similar problems with the Intel driver download. It does not easily allow you to install a driver that you want. In my case it would only tell me to go the my MB manufacturer's site and download drivers from there.
There are ways to download the latest driver from Intel but you have to follow the directions carefully that can be found. I know, I did it.

As I said, I believe your drivers are doing just fine, it is just where some of your files are being stored where I see the mix-mash in your stdrr file.

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Message 1746135 - Posted: 1 Dec 2015, 22:11:13 UTC - in response to Message 1746110.  
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Yes, on my ageing core2duo systems, If I just naively use Windows supplied or Intel installer drivers, then I get old drivers (checking the dates of system device drivers in device manager). Those are typically subject to high DPC latencies. Forcing each driver manually from the zip version, as well described and hidden in Intel's readmes, solves a lot of problems on those particular systems. Interestingly the i5 seems to not demand the same acrobatics, so I'm not entirely clear on what determines whether the detector+installer route works as expected.
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