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Message 1739500 - Posted: 4 Nov 2015, 6:11:29 UTC

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KB 3102810 - Improvements to the New Update client provided by KB3083710

KB 3083710 - New Update Client for Windows 7. No further details about it. (It is suspected this new client downloads other updates in this list in the background without any consent or notice of doing so.)


Just shows how persistent M$ are being in forcing Windoze10 down the throats of the unsuspecting.
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Message 1739536 - Posted: 4 Nov 2015, 9:26:20 UTC - in response to Message 1739482.  

KB3083710 is an improvement on KB3065987
KB3083711 is an improvement on KB3065988

Although KB3065987/-88 installs the Windows 10 telemetry add-on Diagnostic Tracker service (DiagTrack) as well, this can be uninstalled by doing:
Run CMD as Administrator, then in the CMD window type:
sc stop DiagTrack
sc delete DiagTrack

Why not uninstall KB3065987 and be done with it? Because this update adds the group policy/registry injection that adds an option in Windows through with you can tell Windows never to upgrade to a newer version of itself. It will add this in Local Group Policy Editor, Administrative Templates, Windows Components, Windows Update, change the State on Turn off the upgrade to the latest version of Windows through Windows Update to Enabled.

Because the Group Policy Editor is only available on Windows Pro, Ultimate and Enterprise versions, people with the Home and Basic versions of Windows can add this option through the registry. In this case, run regedit.exe as administrator, then navigate to HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate, if this key isn't available, add it.
Then add a DWORD value DisableOSUpgrade = 1 into that key, and exit regedit.

KB3083710 and -11 are an improvement on adding the key to the group policy editor, so in essence these updates are good ones. If you do not want Windows 10, and you don't want to worry about all the updates through Windows Update, you can install these and set the 'turn off the upgrade' option to enabled and be done with it.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3102810 tells you that it's a fix for Installing and searching for updates is slow and high CPU usage occurs in Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2. The file information shows it's only updates to the Windows Update executables and libraries themselves.

There is really no need to unnecessarily scare people about these things.
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Message 1739575 - Posted: 4 Nov 2015, 12:18:47 UTC

For those that use OneDrive Cloud storage, pay heed. http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/microsoft-places-severe-limits-on-unlimited-onedrive-storage.html


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Message 1739586 - Posted: 4 Nov 2015, 13:13:32 UTC

I had serious problems with Windows Update in W10 (I used O&O Shutup to disable automatic updates, but even when I turned the options back on in O&O I got errors when trying to check for updates), that's why I'm back at 8.1 now on my lappy.

Bye bye W10, it was nice, but I like to decide myself when and if I do any updates.
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Message 1739990 - Posted: 5 Nov 2015, 23:54:26 UTC - in response to Message 1739972.  
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Message 1741386 - Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 18:51:41 UTC

Greetings,

Gotta question about Window$ 10: The other half is using it and every time it boots up it pops up an error message stating: "Failed to initial environment" Yes, that is word for word. :| Any clues? Has anyone else seen this error? Is there a fix?

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Message 1741392 - Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 19:30:25 UTC - in response to Message 1741386.  

Greetings,

Gotta question about Window$ 10: The other half is using it and every time it boots up it pops up an error message stating: "Failed to initial environment" Yes, that is word for word. :| Any clues? Has anyone else seen this error? Is there a fix?

I have seen it, not lately, but I thought is said "initialize". I did nothing about it and it went away after a short time.

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Message 1741401 - Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 20:07:59 UTC

I've done some Googling and it seems that is a pretty unique error, belonging to programming that was not native to English. Seems to only exist with Asus motherboard software.
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Message 1741446 - Posted: 12 Nov 2015, 0:12:51 UTC
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Just got this heads up email from the IT Systems manager at my old company...no surprise......

Watch out for this KB Update: KB 3097877
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-update/update-kb3097877-crash/834568aa-4d5e-4a54-83ed-aab05d62cd06?auth=1
Outlook 2010 and Up Crashes.
We had to Uninstall this KB on Several PC’s today, From Tues 11/11/15 Tues MS Update.

Outlook would Start, then APPCRASH on outlook.exe

Just a Heads Up.
‘Thanks Microsoft’ for Checking out your Tues Patches!!!... Right.

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Message 1741537 - Posted: 12 Nov 2015, 13:48:54 UTC - in response to Message 1741392.  

Greetings,

Gotta question about Window$ 10: The other half is using it and every time it boots up it pops up an error message stating: "Failed to initial environment" Yes, that is word for word. :| Any clues? Has anyone else seen this error? Is there a fix?

I have seen it, not lately, but I thought is said "initialize". I did nothing about it and it went away after a short time.

Greetings Bill,

Thanks for the info. The message I saw was exactly as I typed it above. Go figure. :\

Keep on BOINCing...! :)
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Message 1741538 - Posted: 12 Nov 2015, 13:52:33 UTC - in response to Message 1741401.  

I've done some Googling and it seems that is a pretty unique error, belonging to programming that was not native to English. Seems to only exist with Asus motherboard software.

Greetings Ocean,

Thanks for the info. I do build with only ASUS motherboards. Bill G. says he saw it and did nothing and it hasn't shown back up. We will ignore it for now too. If it persists, I'll research it a bit further. :)

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Message 1741583 - Posted: 12 Nov 2015, 18:35:59 UTC - in response to Message 1741537.  

Greetings,

Gotta question about Window$ 10: The other half is using it and every time it boots up it pops up an error message stating: "Failed to initial environment" Yes, that is word for word. :| Any clues? Has anyone else seen this error? Is there a fix?

I have seen it, not lately, but I thought is said "initialize". I did nothing about it and it went away after a short time.

Greetings Bill,

Thanks for the info. The message I saw was exactly as I typed it above. Go figure. :\

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

I probably just read it incorrect and did the assume thing........

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Message 1741733 - Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 12:02:18 UTC

Win 10$spyware has announced its' first big update. http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/windows-10-pending-its-first-big-update.html


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Message 1741863 - Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 22:03:15 UTC

A plug for the Windoze nay sayers! I recently purchased a Lumia 640. Excellent phone! I can't complain about it a bit. Unbelievable battery life.

DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, DOWNLOAD WINDOZE PHONE 10! Downloaded an app that will restore it to Win 8 or 8.1, really don't care at this point.

Upon installing the Windoze Phone 10 update (pushed from AT&T I suppose) I lost all PC connectivity; usb, Bluetooth... I couldn't add or remove any files. Unbelievable...or not....

If the reset app works I'll give an update.

Otherwise, my Win 10 PC is really working well. All "spyware" turned off.
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Message 1741866 - Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 22:29:40 UTC - in response to Message 1741863.  

A plug for the Windoze nay sayers! I recently purchased a Lumia 640. Excellent phone! I can't complain about it a bit. Unbelievable battery life.

DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, DOWNLOAD WINDOZE PHONE 10! Downloaded an app that will restore it to Win 8 or 8.1, really don't care at this point.

Upon installing the Windoze Phone 10 update (pushed from AT&T I suppose) I lost all PC connectivity; usb, Bluetooth... I couldn't add or remove any files. Unbelievable...or not....

If the reset app works I'll give an update.

Otherwise, my Win 10 PC is really working well. All "spyware" turned off.


HA! It worked, back to Windows Phone 8.1.... gonna stay there for a while....
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Message 1741871 - Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 23:00:44 UTC - in response to Message 1741866.  

A plug for the Windoze nay sayers! I recently purchased a Lumia 640. Excellent phone! I can't complain about it a bit. Unbelievable battery life.

DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, DOWNLOAD WINDOZE PHONE 10! Downloaded an app that will restore it to Win 8 or 8.1, really don't care at this point.

Upon installing the Windoze Phone 10 update (pushed from AT&T I suppose) I lost all PC connectivity; usb, Bluetooth... I couldn't add or remove any files. Unbelievable...or not....

If the reset app works I'll give an update.

Otherwise, my Win 10 PC is really working well. All "spyware" turned off.


HA! It worked, back to Windows Phone 8.1.... gonna stay there for a while....

Until AT&T updates your phone again.
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Message 1741874 - Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 23:13:29 UTC - in response to Message 1741871.  

A plug for the Windoze nay sayers! I recently purchased a Lumia 640. Excellent phone! I can't complain about it a bit. Unbelievable battery life.

DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, DOWNLOAD WINDOZE PHONE 10! Downloaded an app that will restore it to Win 8 or 8.1, really don't care at this point.

Upon installing the Windoze Phone 10 update (pushed from AT&T I suppose) I lost all PC connectivity; usb, Bluetooth... I couldn't add or remove any files. Unbelievable...or not....

If the reset app works I'll give an update.

Otherwise, my Win 10 PC is really working well. All "spyware" turned off.


HA! It worked, back to Windows Phone 8.1.... gonna stay there for a while....

Until AT&T updates your phone again.


The update isn't automatic, thankfully....
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Message 1741928 - Posted: 14 Nov 2015, 2:35:07 UTC - in response to Message 1741874.  

A plug for the Windoze nay sayers! I recently purchased a Lumia 640. Excellent phone! I can't complain about it a bit. Unbelievable battery life.

DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, DOWNLOAD WINDOZE PHONE 10! Downloaded an app that will restore it to Win 8 or 8.1, really don't care at this point.

Upon installing the Windoze Phone 10 update (pushed from AT&T I suppose) I lost all PC connectivity; usb, Bluetooth... I couldn't add or remove any files. Unbelievable...or not....

If the reset app works I'll give an update.

Otherwise, my Win 10 PC is really working well. All "spyware" turned off.


HA! It worked, back to Windows Phone 8.1.... gonna stay there for a while....

Until AT&T updates your phone again.


The update isn't automatic, thankfully....

The update on my Galaxy S4 from Jelly Bean to Lollipop wasn't suppose to be, but someone decided that my phone needed updating without my permission.
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