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![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34457 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 ![]() ![]() |
My GPU died 2 weeks ago so i had no chance to uninstall drivers first :( Linux should at least load with a generic driver like win does. I did install Mint 17.2 just now with actual drivers. Now Boinc doesn`t see my GPU like on win 7 last week. Boinc version is 7.2.42. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 108 Credit: 188,578,766 RAC: 0 ![]() |
My GPU died 2 weeks ago so i had no chance to uninstall drivers first :( Have you tried installing and running the sgfxi scripts like I've suggested? Works for both AMD and Nvidia. |
TBar Send message Joined: 22 May 99 Posts: 5204 Credit: 840,779,836 RAC: 2,768 ![]() ![]() |
My GPU died 2 weeks ago so i had no chance to uninstall drivers first :( That is strange seeing as how the new card should have been fine with the same driver. I've swapped cards between machines without having to mess with drivers a number of times with Ubuntu. Does the card show up when you run clinfo in the terminal? Did you check and see if there is a link to libOpenCL.so in /usr/lib? You can find the libOpenCL links in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu. You might as well make links to libOpenCL.so & libOpenCL.so.1 and move them both to /usr/lib. Once there right click on them, chose properties, and remove the Link to part of the name so they have the original name. That usually fixes it, as long as the card shows up in clinfo. |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34457 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 ![]() ![]() |
My GPU died 2 weeks ago so i had no chance to uninstall drivers first :( I was wondering about that myself. Yes CLinfo sees the card so i guess the drivers are installed correctly. Its reporting as Tonga and OpenCL 2.0. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
TBar Send message Joined: 22 May 99 Posts: 5204 Credit: 840,779,836 RAC: 2,768 ![]() ![]() |
What about the libOpenCL.so links? The easiest way to install the links is to run gksu nautilus in the terminal. That will open a file browser window as root, from there it's the same as with Windows. Navigate to usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu, right click on the files and select Make Link, then drag the links to the address bar and drop them on lib. Click on lib to go there, scroll down to the bottom and rename the links to the original names...done. Launch BOINC and it should see the card. |
OTS Send message Joined: 6 Jan 08 Posts: 371 Credit: 20,533,537 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Installing Linux Mint is very easy indeed, but beware a hardware upgrade. I know based on a more recent post of yours that you solved this problem by doing a new install which might be the best way, or at least the fastest, if you don't care about any files you may have on the drive. There is however another way, at least for Slackware. You could have booted on the install CD or DVD and then exited to a command line prompt. Once there you could have mounted the boot partition that was giving you problems and then made the necessary changes to solve the hangup or video problem. At the very least, if there had been files on that partition that you didn't want to lose, you could have recovered them before doing a fresh install. Just a thought for the future. |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34457 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 ![]() ![]() |
What about the libOpenCL.so links? The easiest way to install the links is to run gksu nautilus in the terminal. That will open a file browser window as root, from there it's the same as with Windows. Navigate to usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu, right click on the files and select Make Link, then drag the links to the address bar and drop them on lib. Click on lib to go there, scroll down to the bottom and rename the links to the original names...done. Launch BOINC and it should see the card. There`s only a libOpenCL.so.1 in lib not x86*** With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
TBar Send message Joined: 22 May 99 Posts: 5204 Credit: 840,779,836 RAC: 2,768 ![]() ![]() |
What about the libOpenCL.so links? The easiest way to install the links is to run gksu nautilus in the terminal. That will open a file browser window as root, from there it's the same as with Windows. Navigate to usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu, right click on the files and select Make Link, then drag the links to the address bar and drop them on lib. Click on lib to go there, scroll down to the bottom and rename the links to the original names...done. Launch BOINC and it should see the card. If there is just libOpenCL.so.1 in /usr/lib then make a link to that file and rename the link to libOpenCL.so I believe BOINC wants to see libOpenCL.so there. |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34457 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 ![]() ![]() |
What about the libOpenCL.so links? The easiest way to install the links is to run gksu nautilus in the terminal. That will open a file browser window as root, from there it's the same as with Windows. Navigate to usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu, right click on the files and select Make Link, then drag the links to the address bar and drop them on lib. Click on lib to go there, scroll down to the bottom and rename the links to the original names...done. Launch BOINC and it should see the card. Doesn`t help. Still no usable GPU found. I think its like on windows 7 it needs a more recent Boinc version. Maybe i`ll try again tomorrow. Thats very annoying. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
TBar Send message Joined: 22 May 99 Posts: 5204 Credit: 840,779,836 RAC: 2,768 ![]() ![]() |
Well, that's strange again. I have 3 Ubuntu machines using BOINC 7.2.33 and as long as the AMD card(s) are seen in clinfo, and there is a valid link named libOpenCL.so in /usr/lib, BOINC sees the cards fine. Are you sure the file you linked to is itself a valid link? If you right click and chose properties it will report if it's broken or not. You could try the driver in Additional Drivers, but if clinfo sees the card the current driver should be OK. |
![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 ![]() |
Just to notify y'all, I have allowed the Win8.1 laptop that was catching dust here to update to Windows 10. Over the next couple of weeks I'll see if I like it or not, can always return to Windows 8.1 through the hidden Lenovo partition. That because the return option in Windows 10 doesn't sound like it's too heartening: Back-up and return to Windows 7. Yay! :-) |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34457 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 ![]() ![]() |
Just to notify y'all, I have allowed the Win8.1 laptop that was catching dust here to update to Windows 10. Over the next couple of weeks I'll see if I like it or not, can always return to Windows 8.1 through the hidden Lenovo partition. I hope you won`t get in trouble activating win 7 again. After 4 weeks IIRC the license moved over to win 10. That happened to me on my win 8.1 partition. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7381 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 ![]() ![]() |
Just to notify y'all, I have allowed the Win8.1 laptop that was catching dust here to update to Windows 10. Over the next couple of weeks I'll see if I like it or not, can always return to Windows 8.1 through the hidden Lenovo partition. Greetings Jord, Yeah, the 'roll back' from Window$ 10 to Win7 Pro 64bit screwed things up for Win7. You can read my nightmare in my MD5 error thread. The title starts "Download errors..." or something like that. I don't believe that Micro$oft truly wants anyone to roll back to their previous Window$. I believe they sabotaged the roll back just so people would get frustrated and stay with Window$ 10. Good thing I have a tenacious nature. ;) Keep on BOINCing...! :) CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 30 Jul 15 Posts: 268 Credit: 1,735,966 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I have a new Win 7 64-bit PC and have followed this long thread due to a concern about Win 10 being pushed on me. In the process I've come across mention of Win upgrades to avoid so as not to get a Win 10 icon in my system tray or to allow Microsoft the 'right' to do what I perceive as possible bad things to my PC. In checking my "update list," since I've switched OFF automatic updates, I see 2 dozen or so "KB" things MS wants me to allow installation. I've looked thru the list and some of them worry me. OK, so I may be a chicken, rather that than a dead duck. :) All below applies to various Win OS's back to Win 7. Here is a list of scary KB things, to me, at least. You may want to study them before blindly allowing Microsoft to have its way with you? Do you remember the "Dirty Harry" movie where Clint Eastwood says: "Well, punk. I know what you're thinking. Did he fire 6 shots or only 5? Well punk, do you feel lucky?" Ignore what follows at your own risk. :) Here are the KB's that sound "risky" to me: KB3042058, KB3069114, KB3080446, KB3086255, KB3087039, KB3087918, KB2952664, KB2999226, KB3035583, KB3075249, KB3080149, KB3083710, and KB3092627 https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/exchange/en- US/a277784d-91c2-4677-aa58-f31d1a2a1d86/windows-update-kb3042058 -causing-error-failure-5627-14005-run-dismexe-during-deployment? forum=mdt Windows Update KB3042058 causing error - "FAILURE (5627): 14005: Run DISM.exe" during deployment =============== http://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-releases-patch-to-fix- windows-8-update-kb3069114-installation-issues-492600.shtml Microsoft Releases Patch to Fix Windows 8 Update KB3069114 Installation Issues. KB3069114 is one of the security updates that Microsoft released this month for Windows 8 users, but due to an unknown problem, the patch fails to install on a lot of computers running this particular OS version and despite all the workarounds that have been published online since then, it was pretty much impossible to resolve these issues. =============== http://windowssecrets.com/forums/showthread.php/172054-kb3080446 "I was checking what kb3080446 was for and the link in windows update is broken and a search comes up w/ zip. edit Maybe I am just too quick but that is not the only one... " =============== http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7- gaming/kb3086255-is-this-a-half-baked-solution-or-am-i/13d4c03e-f04f- 40b9-b438-e903eda3cab9?auth=1 "KB3086255 - Is this a half-baked solution or am I doing something wrong?" I have other 'standard' users on this system, so to make my PC secure by installing this update, am I supposed to give them the Admin password so they can then start a service, play the game, and then hopefully remember to stop it again once they have finished? If I set the registry values as mentioned, isn't that more or less the same as removing the update? I'm sure RTW isn't the only game affected. Any other workarounds other than remove the update? =============== http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7- update/windows-7-upgrade-kb3087039-fails-with-error/7fd5f4c8-c8dd- 4714-86cc-fd922b89942f "Windows 7 upgrade KB3087039 fails with error 80070005" "I have run Fix Windows Update Issues and MSFixit but neither helped. Where can I go from here? I am running as administrator and have had no problems with earlier updates. I need this update in order to proceed with Windows 10 upgrade." =============== http://www.askbeen.com/327056/windows-7-update-for-windows-7- kb3087918-critical "Windows 7 - Update for Windows 7 KB3087918 Critical" "According to Belarc Advisor, the subject critical update is not installed on my computer running Windows 7 Professional SP1 that is otherwise fully updated. A search of Installed Updates confirms that it is missing. Searching Microsoft Support / Microsoft Answers returns three results for KB3087918 as an Update for Windows 8.1 and Windows 8.0 respectively, but nothing for Windows 7." =============== http://www.infoworld.com/article/2833825/microsoft-windows/windows-7 -patch-kb-2952664-fails-with-error-80242016.html "Windows 7 patch KB 2952664 fails with error 80242016" =============== https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/aspnet/en-US/1969e78b- f2cd-4d6a-97d4-a378e613d0ba/installation-gets-stuck-on-update-for- microsoft-windows-kb2999226?forum=vssetup Installation gets stuck on "Update for Microsoft Windows (KB2999226)" "I've been trying all day to install Visual Studios Community 2015 on my Windows 7 machine, but I always get stuck at this step. The installer completes the "Acquiring" steps perfectly, but the "Applying" step never progresses and always sticks at "Update for Microsoft Windows (KB2999226)". =============== http://www.myce.com/news/how-to-uninstall-kb3035583-the-windows-10- downloader-for-windows-7-and-8-1-75681/ How to uninstall KB3035583 – The Windows 10 Downloader for Windows 7 and 8.1 "Users that want to remove the KB3035583 “Windows 10 downloader†update from their Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 installation can take several steps to get rid of the update. The “Windows 10 downloader†update is installed as recommended update KB3035583 and adds a /Windows/System32/GWX folder to the system. The folder contains GWX.exe which has the description “Get Windows 10â€." =============== http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7- update/kb3075249-kb3080149-and-kb3068708-are-they- really/3282dc4d-61eb-4046-8b3d-2789a316448d KB3075249, KB3080149, and KB3068708: are they really uninstalled? "After learning today that Microsoft has decided to track Windows 7 & 8 users the way they are tracking Windows 10 users, I decided to uninstall the 3 updates that are enabling the tracking. I found them in my update history, clicked on "Installed Updates", found them in that list, right- clicked on each one and uninstalled it." =============== http://whiskeytangotexas.com/tag/kb3080149/ Not just 10: Microsoft caught spying on Windows 7 and 8 users too "Microsoft has been caught installing updates onto Windows 7 and 8 computers that effectively introduce the same diagnostic telemetry technology used in Windows 10. It indiscriminately uploads data to Microsoft’s servers, a major privacy concern for many." =============== http://www.sevenforums.com/windows-updates-activation/383128- windows-update-kb3083710-win-10-tracking-related.html Windows 7: Is Windows update (KB3083710) Win 10 or tracking related? =============== https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3092627 September 2015 update to fix Windows or application freezes after you install security update 3076895 River Song (aka Linda Latte on planet Earth) "Happy I-Phone girl on the GO GO GO" |
Cosmic_Ocean ![]() Send message Joined: 23 Dec 00 Posts: 3027 Credit: 13,516,867 RAC: 13 ![]() ![]() |
Refer to my color-coded list of updates to avoid to ease your concerns. Linux laptop: record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up) |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 30 Jul 15 Posts: 268 Credit: 1,735,966 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Wow! THANK YOU kind Sir. :) I was unaware such a wonderful list existed in the universe. It really bothers me that Microsoft wants everyone to fall "in lock step, like lemmings, and march over a cliff." I had no clue until I did what I did and learned that some KB files were making "corrections" to earlier KB files! OMG. THANK YOU once again. I will study your post line by line. :) River Song (aka Linda Latte on planet Earth) "Happy I-Phone girl on the GO GO GO" |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 18 Aug 99 Posts: 1432 Credit: 110,967,840 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
Here's another problem with this latest disaster from M$S http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/motherboard-bios-firmware-update-can-trigger-windows-10-inactive.html ![]() ![]() I don't buy computers, I build them!! |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 ![]() |
Here's another problem with this latest disaster from M$S http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/motherboard-bios-firmware-update-can-trigger-windows-10-inactive.html Wow. Perhaps Micro$oft has finally outsmarted itself.......hello Linux! ![]() "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 ![]() |
LOL... Microsoft already has made promises that with the next Windows10 update things will get better. But more and more problems arise. For example if you would upgrade your PC with new hardware, chances are likely your license is revoked. Trying to reactivate or calling Microsoft to make that happen often does not result into your license getting activated again - as 'new hardware' is indicative for a new PC. Meaning you will need to purchase a new license. Sounds like something we've discussed before in this thread. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 ![]() ![]() |
LOL... The most spicy detail about that that old Win7/8 key is gone too after such "update". Nice move to invalidate older keys, indeed :D And definitely absolutely nothing tells us that same situation in any way could apply to Win10 Windows transition.... |
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