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![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 ![]() ![]() |
Tuesday. September 15th. 2015 @2.44 PM. [GMT-0800]. Day of year = 258 Thanks for this and previous your posts, they are informative ones indeed. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 ![]() ![]() |
Well, maybe classic virus not so possible in Linux, but trojan horses are quite possible. We even had such on our Web server PC. With decent capabilities of hiding and re-install that resemble Windows-based viruses. Though finally it was eradicated manually some googling on the way was required... Was it some security mis-configuration or other reason - unknown, but the fact was. It blocked WEB server from correct operation and, maybe, acted like bot-net. |
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It seems this issue gets world-wide attention now. We got new law recently (it recently started to act AFAIK) regarding private data storage outside of country. Such data should now be kept on servers on country's territory. Though as could be concluded from comments regarding this law it's mostly about investments into national data centers (that is, about money), such territorial placement will ease FEDs access to such data too. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 ![]() ![]() |
Firefox with AD Block + and Ghostery is the norm. Thanks a lot for this link, use it everywhere now :) |
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- Updates not to Install (In numerical order) Thanks so much for this, I found one that I had missed on the previous list and one that had reinstalled itself(3075249). Very irritating and time consuming! Damn M$ to the lowest hell possible. [edit] and after restart, 3077715 and 3080149 were on the list of updates waiting for download(after being hidden twice previously. They (M$) are devious little jerks! ![]() "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 18 Aug 99 Posts: 1432 Credit: 110,967,840 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
I saw this this morning and thought those of you that are having problems with Malware10 might be interested. http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/anti-beacon-for-windows-10-download.html It also works on Win 7 & 8.1. I'm thinking about downloading it and see what comes up on my Win 7. ![]() ![]() I don't buy computers, I build them!! |
rob smith ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22816 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 ![]() ![]() |
The sooner the EU pins M$ to the wall and removes billions from their bank the better. On a PC which has automatic updates turned OFF I started to receive the downgrade to Widows 10. This is nothing short of a criminal action on behalf of a gang of crooks. I am now having to go through the pain of removing the ILLEGAL JUNK that has been deposited on that PC. An invoice for my wasted time, at 10k gbp per hour or part there-of (into second hour...), is being sent to M$ HQ in Seattle. I doubt that they will pay it, but the more folks that do this the better - they may get the message that they are upsetting a large number of users and roll back on their ILLEGAL activities. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
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Rob I have followed your lead and sent to M$ some words of yours. On a PC which has automatic updates turned OFF I started to receive the downgrade to Widows 10. This is nothing short of a criminal action! |
kittyman ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51542 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 ![]() ![]() |
I don't think that MS will get the message until a large enough group of lawyers launches a class action lawsuit over this and hundreds of thousands start to sign onto it as plaintiffs............ "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 ![]() |
I saw this this morning and thought those of you that are having problems with Malware10 might be interested. http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/anti-beacon-for-windows-10-download.html It also works on Win 7 & 8.1. I'm thinking about downloading it and see what comes up on my Win 7. I have used Spybot S&D for many years with good results. I just installed this program from them(It's called Cut The Line), I'll see how well it blocks this virus. It indicated that everything was now blocked after I pushed the immunize button. Interestingly the 'Get Window$ 10' update appeared again on one machine that I had removed Window$~BS from. Switching to Ubuntu is becoming more and more of a priority for me. ![]() "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
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Switching to Ubuntu is becoming more and more of a priority for me. Me too, if I can configure it to crunch like my Windows machines. |
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Did you try the registry tweaks?: DisableOSUpgrade = 1 ReservationsAllowed = 0 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77121&postid=1726412#1726412 Â ![]() ![]() Â |
rob smith ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22816 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 ![]() ![]() |
Class actions take too long to organise. The EU court can act much quicker as it is a legal entity set up to act against large organisations. They look at both legal situation, and then act. Penalties can be in excess of 100% of a company's turnover, plus compensation for the victims of the cime (which in this case that would be Joe & Jane User). Think of it, M$ fined >100% of one year's turnover (not profit, actual turnover - can't produce the figure for the year in question then the court looks back at the books and estimates what the turnover would be...). Plus compensation at >100% of the list price of the product PER USER. Even M$ would feel that... Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 ![]() |
And here's the next one who gathers your browsing and search history and sells it to third parties. Is going live from October 15, 2015. Care to make a wager who this is? Why do you collect my data? We use data to improve our products and services; provide support; send notifications, offers, and promotions; and to make money from our free offerings with non-personal data. How do you collect my data? When you provide it to us directly, use our products or website, and through cookies and tracking beacons. What do you collect that can identify me? We may collect your name, address, email, phone and SIM number, IP address, Device ID, location, and if you buy our products, payment information. What do you collect that cannot identify me? We collect data that is not personal to you like your device’s brand, language and setup, apps that may be used, etc. Do you share my data? We do not share your personal data with 3rd parties unless you provide your consent except in limited circumstances. What rights do I have over my data? You may ask us how we process your data, to correct or delete your personal data, and may opt out of email messaging and certain data collection and use. Think you know who it is? If you thought it was your free antivirus maker AVG, then you're correct. :-) So quick all, get Avira instead! |
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If there is a gun it will fire. If data collected they can and ultimately will be stolen.... |
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Hi Folks, For any who may be interested:-) Win10 network driver is crud.. At least on an AMD machine with a realtek network chip. Win10 works the network at about 86% full rate. So anyone with an AMD rig and realtek network chip needs to install their[realtek] win10 driver to get full use of the chip. Cant say what other network devices on other platforms may require.. Regards, Cliff, Been there, Done that, Still no damm T shirt! ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6662 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I don't think that MS will get the message until a large enough group of lawyers launches a class action lawsuit over this and hundreds of thousands start to sign onto it as plaintiffs............ You would have to include Apple and Google also, as they have been collecting information for years. Microsoft had to start using Big Data just to stay relevant. Of course we can uninstall updates, and do other things to protect our privacy now, but 5, 10, or 20 years from now, I doubt it. Microsoft, and other companies can just wait us out, and utilize the data they are getting from others. I started carrying a smart phone, knowing full well what data was collected. On the other hand, the service that I receive is extraordinary. I figure I can either buck the data collection, or enjoy the capabilities the emerging world offers. Data can be stolen from anywhere, whether it be banks, insurance companies, governments, store chains, or personal computers. I have protected myself as much as practical against identity theft, ransomware, or data breaches, which seems like a good insurance policy in a hostile world. I am trying to adjust to a future where I will have no choice as to what data is collected. Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website |
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I figure I can either buck the data collection, or enjoy the capabilities the emerging world offersThat's probably what Fritz Lang said in 1927.... ![]() ![]() "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6662 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0 ![]() |
The future is a bit scary, and I don't know where it will end up. I do see the trend of increasing data collection with, or without my consent, and am doing my best to prepare for it. Will it be enough? Only time will tell. Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6662 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I just noticed something. I have been playing around with Windows 10, with most of the intrusive stuff turned off. I don't know if this has been mentioned in this thread, but here it is anyway. I previously had Windows 7 Ultimate, which led me to believe I would receive Windows 10 Professional. What I actually got is not the professional version, which explains why I haven't seen the extra control I was looking for based on this thread. I will be building a new computer next year, so I will be doing a clean install with a newly purchased copy of Win 10 Pro anyway. I just don't have the time to constantly uninstall/block updates that increase telemetry or data collection. I didn't realize I had the home edition until I looked on the computer stats page, and saw that others had the pro version, and I had the non-pro version. Rats. Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website |
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