Not only that, but Win10 will no longer have IE. They are coming out with an all new browser... :\ I forget the name off hand...

No, Windows 10 will still include Internet Explorer for compatibility's sake, but no new features will be added to it.

The new browser is called Microsoft Edge (named after the rendering engine). It was called Spartan while in development.

I'm about 95% sure they called it Edge so they wouldn't have to design a new logo.

It is called "Edge", and the icon for it still has a big "E" on it, but the background shape has been changed slightly to reflect the change.

Cheers.

Well it is a "new" logo, but it really just looks like a new version of the IE logo to me.

I would imagine keeping the icons similar would also be beneficial to all the non-savvy PC users who only know they get to the internet on their computer by double-clicking on the E icon.

I'm really curious how this new browser will do. Haven't used IE for ages.

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As long as you have KB3035583 installed, you'll get notified.

Checking my systems, I see that this is an optional update. One of my systems is allowed to automatically update Windows, but even that system doesn't have that update in as it isn't a recommended update.

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For those that are reserving a copy of Windows 10: Are you required to sign up for a Microsoft account and/or do you provide your email at any point in the reservation process?

My thinking is that you will be emailed a link to a download page where the ISO will be stored.

No new account is necessary, you enter any email address you want for MS to send you a confirmation. (I have gotten some confirmations)

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Hi OzzFan,

Any idea 'where' one gets the iso from? As I understand it MS is using windows update to send a single 3gig file as an upgrade, not as an iso.

And the ArsTech article doesn't provide any clarification on that score.

I will continue searching for definitive information, but presumably since they are going to allow you to use an ISO to install fresh, that suggests they will have the ISO stored somewhere for you to download.


For those that are reserving a copy of Windows 10: Are you required to sign up for a Microsoft account and/or do you provide your email at any point in the reservation process?

My thinking is that you will be emailed a link to a download page where the ISO will be stored.

This is probably about as close to definitive proof that you will be able to get an ISO from somewhere: Neowin - After the free upgrade, you can perform a clean install if needed/wanted.

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Not only that, but Win10 will no longer have IE. They are coming out with an all new browser... :\ I forget the name off hand...

No, Windows 10 will still include Internet Explorer for compatibility's sake, but no new features will be added to it.

The new browser is called Microsoft Edge (named after the rendering engine). It was called Spartan while in development.

Hopefully we will be able to delete both if we wish.

Not sure why you'd want to delete either. If you don't use them, I'm sure you can install a different browser and set it as the default.

If I don't use it I don't want it taking up space on my hard drive, why would anyone keep programs they never use?

Unfortunately today having found out that Media Center is being removed I may have to keep at least one PC on Win 7 as no other program works for my USB TV stick, Just tried some others and they are either complicated to set up or for some reason fail to see all the TV channels, Media Center just works. Oh well.

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As long as you have KB3035583 installed, you'll get notified.

Checking my systems, I see that this is an optional update. One of my systems is allowed to automatically update Windows, but even that system doesn't have that update in as it isn't a recommended update.

Greetings Jord,

In my various readings about Win10 and the upgrade, I found that when Microsoft first issued the update it was 'Optional'. Since then they changed it to 'Recommended'. I believe they wanted to make sure that everyone with Win7 and Win8.1 had the opportunity to get the free upgrade or something like that. :)

If you don't have the update and you DO want the free Win10 upgrade, you need to get KB3035583 and install it. :)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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Not sure why you'd want to delete either. If you don't use them, I'm sure you can install a different browser and set it as the default.

If I don't use it I don't want it taking up space on my hard drive, why would anyone keep programs they never use?

Unfortunately today having found out that Media Center is being removed I may have to keep at least one PC on Win 7 as no other program works for my USB TV stick, Just tried some others and they are either complicated to set up or for some reason fail to see all the TV channels, Media Center just works. Oh well.

Greetings Bernie,

There's an old saying: "It's better to have it and not need it, then to need it and not have it." ;)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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Unfortunately today having found out that Media Center is being removed I may have to keep at least one PC on Win 7 as no other program works for my USB TV stick, Just tried some others and they are either complicated to set up or for some reason fail to see all the TV channels, Media Center just works. Oh well.

I will be doing the same as you, I use my secondary PC as a DVR currently.

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Since three of our four Win 7 systems are Home Premium; does anyone know if you can purchase a Win 10 Pro "Upgrade" 3 License Copy??? I really don't want these systems upgrading to Win 10 Home...


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If you already have the Home edition why wouldn't you not want to continue with Home edition? You don't have to update to Windows 10 if you don't want to.

Windows 7 Home to Windows 10 Pro with the paid update should work in theory. Depending on if they decide to allow that function.
However the free update path could take your Windows 7 Home to Windows 10 Home. Then the paid update to go from Home to Pro could be applied. The Home to Pro upgrade is supposedly going to be $99. I don't know if they will have volume packs available right away or not.

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Not only that, but Win10 will no longer have IE. They are coming out with an all new browser... :\ I forget the name off hand...

No, Windows 10 will still include Internet Explorer for compatibility's sake, but no new features will be added to it.

The new browser is called Microsoft Edge (named after the rendering engine). It was called Spartan while in development.

Hopefully we will be able to delete both if we wish.

Not sure why you'd want to delete either. If you don't use them, I'm sure you can install a different browser and set it as the default.

If I don't use it I don't want it taking up space on my hard drive, why would anyone keep programs they never use?

Unfortunately today having found out that Media Center is being removed I may have to keep at least one PC on Win 7 as no other program works for my USB TV stick, Just tried some others and they are either complicated to set up or for some reason fail to see all the TV channels, Media Center just works. Oh well.

Have you already tried VLC? http://www.videolan.org

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In my various readings about Win10 and the upgrade, I found that when Microsoft first issued the update it was 'Optional'. Since then they changed it to 'Recommended'.

No, it's Optional for Windows 7 and Recommended for Windows 8.1 (source).

For the moment we're not too interested. What we decide to do is check what everyone else will make of it, if it needs patches to get fixed for a majority of the users (and remember, we've always required patches like that in the past), etcetera.

Then prior to any of us updating, I'll make an image of each of the 3 systems we have and store those on the NAS. Then any of us can decide to do the (clean) update, and if we don't like what we see, revert back to the original Win7 image.

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Unfortunately today having found out that Media Center is being removed I may have to keep at least one PC on Win 7 as no other program works for my USB TV stick, Just tried some others and they are either complicated to set up or for some reason fail to see all the TV channels, Media Center just works. Oh well.

Ever tried MPC-HC? I swear by it for my tv-server.

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In my various readings about Win10 and the upgrade, I found that when Microsoft first issued the update it was 'Optional'. Since then they changed it to 'Recommended'.

No, it's Optional for Windows 7 and Recommended for Windows 8.1 (source).

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Greetings Jord,

Both my PC and laptop have the update KB3035583 installed. Both machines report that the update is 'Recommended'. Here's a link to where I read what I mentioned earlier. :)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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After reading these posts, I think I know what I am going to do. I had intended to build a new version of my computer, Piggy. I am saving money for it on one of my credit cards. Intel will be coming out with a new CPU in 2016, which looks very good. I know I am going to make that build with Windows 10. Since I installed my Samsung 850 PRO 1 TB SSD a few months ago, I didn't install everything I wanted, because I knew Windows 10 was coming out.

Since I am not ready financially yet to rebuild Piggy, and the new CPU is still slated for next year, I will go ahead and give the free Windows 10 a spin on my current system. I will just buy the $150 version to be ready for when the new CPU is ready. It is an 8 core extreme version, and I intend to push it very hard. After I finish the build, which will be a new CPU, new motherboard, and new RAM with my existing 1 TB SSD with a clean install of Windows 10, I will spend the time tweaking it for maximum potential. Then, I will look into upgrading my old GTX 480 GPU's. I will water cool the new GPU's also, and start maxing them out.

This way, the freeby Win 10 is nice, and I get experience with it before diving into a new build.

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For, me, I know the future doesn't go backwards. I am also looking forward to that holographic headset, if they get it perfected. I realize that it works now, but the field of view is very small. I am mentally ready to move forward, both with Windows 10, and new hardware. This old CPU 950, and GTX 480's system is ready for a massive upgrade. I have always wanted the most powerful computer I could build, even long before there ever was a Seti@home. Some people like fast cars, fast motorcycles, and fast women, but I like fast computers.....

Well, fast women aren't to bad either.

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OK solved my problem, it appears that you have to have IE 11 before you will get the necessary update.

I never use IE so had not updated from IE 9 on my main or gaming machine, so I installed IE 11 and then went to search for updates, installed them and lo and behold the icon appeared.

So if you are having a problem check you have IE 11 installed and working.

That's an odd way for them to do it. Given there are versions of Windows that ship without IE installed/enabled in the Euro market.

Ah but perhaps the required download was pushed out on its own for those markets.

Or perhaps I was wrong but it worked for me as soon as I installed IE 11 the update appeared, that was on 2 machines.

At work I loaded up an image of a bare Windows 7 SP1 installation. Checked for updates. KB3035583 wasn't listed. Installed IE 11 from our internal archive. Then checked again. KB3035583 was then listed.

EDIT: Also it is an "Optional" update rather than "Important".

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Both my PC and laptop have the update KB3035583 installed. Both machines report that the update is 'Recommended'.

I know now what the problem here is, Rick, one of anticipation and perspective. This update shows only in the Optional window, not in the Important window. The update is optional, but apparently one must see from the italics that the text is in, that this is a recommended update. You only see in its description that it is a "recommended update" after choosing it. I expect recommended updates to be in the important window, not in the optional window.




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I will just let that icon sit there, and see how they plan to remove it for those that do not want to upgrade :-)

Easily done, uninstall KB3035583 and the icon goes away.

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Not sure why you'd want to delete either. If you don't use them, I'm sure you can install a different browser and set it as the default.

If I don't use it I don't want it taking up space on my hard drive, why would anyone keep programs they never use?

Space isn't at a premium anymore. IE takes up a few MB of space, any many of the libraries are required for other stuff.

Unfortunately today having found out that Media Center is being removed I may have to keep at least one PC on Win 7 as no other program works for my USB TV stick, Just tried some others and they are either complicated to set up or for some reason fail to see all the TV channels, Media Center just works. Oh well.

I don't use Media Center much but I had always wanted to use it. I tend to use Kodi (formerly XBMC or X-Box Media Center), though I have had problems with it playing .MKV files. My workaround was to use Handbrake to convert from .MKV to .MP4 and those compatibility issues went away.