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Message 1672288 - Posted: 30 Apr 2015, 22:38:58 UTC

You know, I am just glad to get rid of the AP6's. I have seen one of mine log as invalid as third man. What happened was mine started after one computer went over deadline. That computer did complete but my WU finished a week later after the log showed the other two computers had validated.
Just a timing thing, nothing to worry about.

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Message 1672294 - Posted: 30 Apr 2015, 22:55:33 UTC - in response to Message 1672288.  

You know, I am just glad to get rid of the AP6's. I have seen one of mine log as invalid as third man. What happened was mine started after one computer went over deadline. That computer did complete but my WU finished a week later after the log showed the other two computers had validated.
Just a timing thing, nothing to worry about.

Hmmmm, http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7226971&offset=0&show_names=0&state=0&appid=12

The problem is, the change is now part of the source code. So...from now on anytime you run a timed-out resend you run the risk of receiving an Invalid if the timed-out host reports before you do.
Not good, kinda makes you wary of running a timed-out resend, if I'm reading this correctly...
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Message 1672298 - Posted: 30 Apr 2015, 23:05:05 UTC - in response to Message 1672294.  

The problem is, the change is now part of the source code. So...from now on anytime you run a timed-out resend you run the risk of receiving an Invalid if the timed-out host reports before you do.
Not good, kinda makes you wary of running a timed-out resend, if I'm reading this correctly...

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Message 1672300 - Posted: 30 Apr 2015, 23:09:12 UTC

Some listed results validated against old stock that even not list signal numbers. Some counters match indeed but counters not only that should match (at least for non-zero signals results).
Maybe we could get some comments on purpose of this change from Berkeley's crew...
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Message 1672306 - Posted: 30 Apr 2015, 23:12:46 UTC

Meantime it resulted in quite funny/scary (depends from ppoint of view) server-statistics numbers:

Data Distribution State SETI@home # Astropulse # As of*
Results ready to send 147,991 0 9m
Current result creation rate 0.6722/sec -0.5000/sec 5m

Seems it reflects tasks taking back from crunchers correctly though %)
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Message 1672315 - Posted: 30 Apr 2015, 23:41:48 UTC - in response to Message 1672306.  

I'll check these results in more detail. It's possible we introduced a bug in this version of the validator.
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Message 1672323 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 0:02:01 UTC - in response to Message 1672315.  
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Found the bug. (An assumption valid for ap_v7 but not valid for ap_v6). Will grant credit for results marked invalid.
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Message 1672326 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 0:10:58 UTC - in response to Message 1672323.  

Eric you are a good man.
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Message 1672327 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 0:14:57 UTC - in response to Message 1672323.  

Found the bug. (An assumption valid for ap_v7 but not valid for ap_v6)


Good to hear that!
BTW, what those AP tapes that appear only for few mins and marked as whole channels crunched almost immediately? Does some AP splitting go or it's just artefacts from damaged (at least for AP splitting) tapes?
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Message 1672330 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 0:28:04 UTC - in response to Message 1672327.  

Found the bug. (An assumption valid for ap_v7 but not valid for ap_v6)


Good to hear that!
BTW, what those AP tapes that appear only for few mins and marked as whole channels crunched almost immediately? Does some AP splitting go or it's just artefacts from damaged (at least for AP splitting) tapes?

Excellent question.
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Message 1672350 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 1:17:04 UTC

Something crash badly? Or one of Matt's little planned outages?
The kitties dropped over 200 from cache in the last half an hour or so.

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Message 1672358 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 1:27:09 UTC - in response to Message 1672350.  

Lets just hope that it is a little break while the validators and assimilators catch up, which is almost done.
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Message 1672369 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 1:43:33 UTC - in response to Message 1672358.  

Lets just hope that it is a little break while the validators and assimilators catch up, which is almost done.

Well, outbound crickets have stopped chirping.
I do hope it's just a little prep work for the weekend.
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Message 1672383 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 2:23:21 UTC

Eric has responded to me and says he has restarted the splitters.

Cross your fingers.

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Message 1672392 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 2:50:51 UTC

Kitties' caches coming back up fast..
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Message 1672401 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 3:05:54 UTC

Here was an interesting one with that _2 task being auto-invalid.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1600710640

_0 - error while computing - 0 credit
_1 - completed and validated - 0.04 credits
_2 - completed, marked as invalid - 0.03
_3 - completed and validated - 0.04 credits


So finding that bug and fixing it.. is that going to unmark good tasks from being invalid, or is the fix just a measure to keep it from happening again?
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record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up)
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Message 1672405 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 3:19:07 UTC - in response to Message 1672294.  
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You know, I am just glad to get rid of the AP6's. I have seen one of mine log as invalid as third man. What happened was mine started after one computer went over deadline. That computer did complete but my WU finished a week later after the log showed the other two computers had validated.
Just a timing thing, nothing to worry about.

Hmmmm, http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7226971&offset=0&show_names=0&state=0&appid=12

The problem is, the change is now part of the source code. So...from now on anytime you run a timed-out resend you run the risk of receiving an Invalid if the timed-out host reports before you do.
Not good, kinda makes you wary of running a timed-out resend, if I'm reading this correctly...

I did not see it on that computer. I was looking at another of mine.
Good to hear that it was caused by a bug and will be corrected. And of course getting the code corrected is a good thing.

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Message 1672415 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 3:47:57 UTC

A small panic might be in order.....just got the dreaded message about no work units available, twice!
Don't take life too seriously, as you'll never come out of it alive!
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Message 1672417 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 3:50:34 UTC - in response to Message 1672415.  

A small panic might be in order.....just got the dreaded message about no work units available, twice!

All good, Iona......
Calm and steady...

Work is moving out...you are OK......breath deeply and recite after me.

I believe in Seti....I believe in Seti....I believe in Seti...

Feel better now??
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Message 1672479 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 6:38:42 UTC - in response to Message 1672417.  

no, it's knackered
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