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Message 1686231 - Posted: 31 May 2015, 8:49:02 UTC - in response to Message 1686226.  

I think we are about to go from a Shorty Storm to a VLAR Storm. All I'm getting for CPU tasks are VLARs. A VLAR Storm is Bad for GPUs because VLARs are not sent to GPUs which means if the Feeder is Full of VLARs when you ask for GPU tasks...you get Nothing. All you get is a confusing reply about not having any work when you know there is work. Well, there is work, it just can't be sent to your GPU.



OK, I understand that, but if you request work for both cpu & gpu, I would have expected to get cpu wu's if there were no gpu wu's available, no?

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I know that the GPU cache gets filled first so maybe you cannot get CPU work with both the GPU and CPU options selected. Best thing to do if you want to get CPU work is to deselect the GPU option in your preferences. I just looked at your atom computer and I see you currently 53 tasks in progress.
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Message 1686236 - Posted: 31 May 2015, 9:27:10 UTC - in response to Message 1686226.  

I think we are about to go from a Shorty Storm to a VLAR Storm. All I'm getting for CPU tasks are VLARs. A VLAR Storm is Bad for GPUs because VLARs are not sent to GPUs which means if the Feeder is Full of VLARs when you ask for GPU tasks...you get Nothing. All you get is a confusing reply about not having any work when you know there is work. Well, there is work, it just can't be sent to your GPU.



OK, I understand that, but if you request work for both cpu & gpu, I would have expected to get cpu wu's if there were no gpu wu's available, no?

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Message 1686238 - Posted: 31 May 2015, 10:08:17 UTC

First, there are no "GPU tasks", all tasks are essentially the same. A task is dedicated to either a CPU or GPU at the time of distribution. However there is a class of task that is never sent to a GPU because it is known to cause Nvidia GPUs problems.
When the feed channel is empty you will get no tasks, normally this will be a rare event as it refills every few seconds with another 100 Work Units (200 tasks). Sometimes you can be unlucky and have to wait out a few attempts to get new work, but generally the next call will be a hit.
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Message 1686246 - Posted: 31 May 2015, 11:18:53 UTC - in response to Message 1686238.  

When the feed channel is empty you will get no tasks, normally this will be a rare event as it refills every few seconds with another 100 Work Units (200 tasks).

I think your statement saying that the feeder holds 100 Wu's (200 tasks) is wrong, In the past my hosts have been allocated well over 100 tasks at a time,
If there were only 200 tasks being held by the feeder then I would be receiving replications of the same Wu' ie. both the _0 and the _1, so there must be some thing like 200 Wu's available,
and you can't assume each Wu has two tasks available to send, the feeder will also send resends out, ie _3, _4, _5 etc, there is likely to be only one of those being needed to be resent at a time.

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Message 1686250 - Posted: 31 May 2015, 11:52:05 UTC - in response to Message 1686246.  

The feeder will only have knowledge of individual tasks (pulled from the 'result' table in the database). It won't have a list of WUs, and I don't know whether the current number is 100, 200, or something else.

Once a provisional task has been selected for allocation, it will be tested for feasibility - that will include the VLAR/GPU test, whether any replications have been allocated to the same host or user, whether the deadline can be met, etc. etc.
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Message 1686256 - Posted: 31 May 2015, 12:13:32 UTC - in response to Message 1686250.  
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Uh oh, the replica db just went offline again.
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Message 1686285 - Posted: 31 May 2015, 14:38:50 UTC - in response to Message 1686256.  

Uh oh, the replica db just went offline again.


But the data driven pages are still current.

I guess plan B is in effect.
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Message 1686330 - Posted: 31 May 2015, 17:15:27 UTC

Replica seconds behind master 17,088
As of 31 May 2015, 16:45:00 UTC (estimated as I didn't look at this)

Replica seconds behind master 16,354
As of 31 May 2015, 17:00:03 UTC

Looks like the replica DB is back online and catching up.

not sure what plan B is

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Message 1686396 - Posted: 31 May 2015, 22:32:08 UTC

Well, sumpthin's having a hard time of it.
Task pages are once again taking forever to load and the kitties are slowly losing caches.
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Message 1686402 - Posted: 31 May 2015, 22:46:18 UTC - in response to Message 1686396.  

Well, sumpthin's having a hard time of it.
Task pages are once again taking forever to load and the kitties are slowly losing caches.


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Message 1686416 - Posted: 31 May 2015, 23:37:28 UTC - in response to Message 1686415.  

Yup, this is bad. The splitters seems to be pumping air now...

Actually, over the last half an hour or so, things seem to have righted themselves.
Task pages are responding, and have recovered almost 400 tasks to the caches.

Might have been the daily task dump hanging things up, perhaps.
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Message 1686499 - Posted: 1 Jun 2015, 7:32:26 UTC - in response to Message 1686418.  

MB splitters still having issues.
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Message 1686525 - Posted: 1 Jun 2015, 9:23:12 UTC

only 48 channels left... we're about to run out of work all together PANIC!
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Message 1686526 - Posted: 1 Jun 2015, 9:47:55 UTC

I'm not panicking, I'm anticipating that AP files may follow :D
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Message 1686600 - Posted: 1 Jun 2015, 13:59:59 UTC

Just sent word to Eric and Matt about the splitter queues running out.
It's only 7:00AM in Berkeley. Hope one of them gets the message and can drum up some more work to load later this morning.
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Message 1686639 - Posted: 1 Jun 2015, 15:19:02 UTC - in response to Message 1686638.  

It's OK. The worst thing that can happen, is that we run out of work. I think I can survive that too :-)


you're still grinding through trees with your teeth for the lack of AP's ;-)
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Message 1686671 - Posted: 1 Jun 2015, 16:40:45 UTC
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Just got a reply from Matt.....
He said thanks, and more work is coming down the pike!!!
I did not inquire as to whether any of it might be worthy of AP splitting.
I am guessing not, due to what has been split for a while now, but we'll just have to wait and see.
The main thing is that at least MB should pick back up again, as RTS just dried up.
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Message 1686678 - Posted: 1 Jun 2015, 17:04:13 UTC

APs are splat, but as usual...
01/06/2015 18:59:36 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
01/06/2015 18:59:36 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
01/06/2015 18:59:39 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
01/06/2015 18:59:39 | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
...no APs for Uli. :/
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Message 1686684 - Posted: 1 Jun 2015, 17:17:08 UTC - in response to Message 1686678.  

APs are splat, but as usual...
01/06/2015 18:59:36 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
01/06/2015 18:59:36 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
01/06/2015 18:59:39 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
01/06/2015 18:59:39 | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
...no APs for Uli. :/

As I pretty much expected...
The first new dataset has already been processed for AP with nothing coming out.
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Message 1686731 - Posted: 1 Jun 2015, 20:58:29 UTC

Well is official, I'm 100% dry now :(
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