Hi Simon,

The point is that there are all sorts of dates that retailers are supposed to abide by.

Best Before
Use before
Sell by
Display until
etc

Most tinned and bottled stuff can be used much later than that, but I believe that retailers can be fined if they are found to have out of date stuff on their shelves. In most cases the shop or supermarket will sell the items at 50% off to their staff at the close of business on the day that the produce goes past it's date. Certainly Sainsburys did when I worked for them 35 years ago. But careful JIT ordering by management should reduce that wastage.

If stuff can go past the use by date and still be usable, then the use by date needs adjusting.

The point in question in all these cases is not just the morals of throwing away still edible food, it is the law on stealing. It is unlawful to enter others premises and remove goods of whatever kind without permission. It is simply theft in law. But the retailers are in a quandary aren't they? If they leave the out of date stuff on the pavement for anyone to help themselves, and somebody gets food poisoning, from out of date food, they will get sued in court. Their public liability insurance wouldn't cover them.

There has to be a sensible way forward, which we haven't found yet.

Just because something's illegal doesn't make it wrong, equally something being legal doesn't make it right.
Leave it out the front under a big sign saying that they accept no responsibility if you take it and get ill.

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Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge.

There has to be a sensible way forward, which we haven't found yet.

Nonsense.
We all know what's going on...

Could this be the catalyst that precipitates a change in supermarket's policy of throwing away what is clearly edible food?
I do hope so.

Hi Simon,

The point is that there are all sorts of dates that retailers are supposed to abide by.

Best Before
Use before
Sell by
Display until
etc

Most tinned and bottled stuff can be used much later than that, but I believe that retailers can be fined if they are found to have out of date stuff on their shelves. In most cases the shop or supermarket will sell the items at 50% off to their staff at the close of business on the day that the produce goes past it's date. Certainly Sainsburys did when I worked for them 35 years ago. But careful JIT ordering by management should reduce that wastage.

The point in question in all these cases is not just the morals of throwing away still edible food, it is the law on stealing. It is unlawful to enter others premises and remove goods of whatever kind without permission. It is simply theft in law. But the retailers are in a quandary aren't they? If they leave the out of date stuff on the pavement for anyone to help themselves, and somebody gets food poisoning, from out of date food, they will get sued in court. Their public liability insurance wouldn't cover them.

There has to be a sensible way forward, which we haven't found yet.

Well this is a reality in modern day Britain.

Waste food

Could this be the catalyst that precipitates a change in supermarket's policy of throwing away what is clearly edible food?
I do hope so.

About 25% of the food that are produced in the world are thrown away.
Food production is a huge CO2 emitter...

Well this is a reality in modern day Britain.

Waste food

Could this be the catalyst that precipitates a change in supermarket's policy of throwing away what is clearly edible food?
I do hope so.

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Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge.

Exactly the point that I made. Thank you.

Reality?

A 37-year-old British man who planned to take the life of Prince Charles told the court that he felt marginalized throughout his life because he's white, red-haired and male. He wanted to see himself as Anders Behring Breivik, the Norwegian mass murderer.

As a white, red-haired man; i'd like to tell him to bloody well grow up!

If the man was able to remove the British crown prince, it would pave the way for Prince Harry, Charles's son. A redhead royalty could then assume the throne, the idea was under indictment, concerning terrorist offenses.
The man denies any liability.
http://www.dn.se/nyheter/varlden/rodharig-man-med-breivik-som-forebild-ville-doda-prins-charles/

He'd also have to kill William, George, and the most recent addition, Charlotte.

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Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge.

Posting Youtube videos is not reality, it is internet escapism from the real world which you seem to indulge a lot in.

Stop it Chris!
You are insulting me.

Posting Youtube videos is not reality, it is internet escapism from the real world which some people seem to indulge a lot in.

Why saving poor children will not lead to overpopulation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkTfUaDD_4Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdvzTITvKqU

Well this is a reality in modern day Britain.

Waste food

If the man was able to remove the British crown prince, it would pave the way for Prince Harry, Charles's son.

Prince Harry is 5th in line to the British Throne.

(1) The Prince Charles, Prince of Wales (b. 1948)
(2) Prince William, Duke of Cambridge (b. 1982)
(3) Prince George of Cambridge (b. 2013)
(4) Princess Charlotte of Cambridge (b. 2015)
(5) Prince Henry of Wales (b. 1984)

Reality?

A 37-year-old British man who planned to take the life of Prince Charles told the court that he felt marginalized throughout his life because he's white, red-haired and male. He wanted to see himself as Anders Behring Breivik, the Norwegian mass murderer.
If the man was able to remove the British crown prince, it would pave the way for Prince Harry, Charles's son. A redhead royalty could then assume the throne, the idea was under indictment, concerning terrorist offenses.
The man denies any liability.
http://www.dn.se/nyheter/varlden/rodharig-man-med-breivik-som-forebild-ville-doda-prins-charles/

Why Girls Love The Dad Bod:)
http://theodysseyonline.com/clemson/dad-bod/97484

My guess is that the man has a lot of beers in the box.
Perhaps even worse. Soda...

Ardi, 2, shocked the world with smoking 40 cigarettes a day.
But now the big smoker successfully quit.
After a period of psychotherapy social services can now report that the boy now would rather play than smoke.

Time is Money.
http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21623758-chinas-back?fsrc=scn/tw/te/pe/ed/chinasbacklivechart#
Are we doomed?

But whe world has never been more peaceful.
https://twitter.com/SolheimDAC/status/595828300037136384

You have to work 19 hours to afford a passport in the US.
http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/these-are-the-most-powerful-passports-in-the-world--eJWESZ4jC1W

Enjoy what Australia has to offer while you still can.
Ponzi immigration.
https://twitter.com/BoomersAreEvil/status/595000073727049728/photo/1

@James Seems that is not the smoke that is the problem but the fact Kerosine is a disolvent. Burnt kerosine are not smoking so much.

SCAQMD develops and adopts an Air Quality Management Plan, which serves as the blueprint to bring this area into compliance with federal and state clean air standards. Rules are adopted to reduce emissions from various sources, including specific types of equipment, industrial processes, paints and solvents, even consumer products.

http://www.aqmd.gov/

Think BBQ in LA...

Speaking of which they have banned liquid BBQ starter fluids (kerosine) in the SCAQMD area due to emissions and one chain burger place has had to install scrubbers on their gas flame grills because of smoke. It is a big problem.

Mean while South America is clear cutting and burning forests whole sale. And a little liquid BBQ starter is a worry?

And before every one gets bent out of shape I can and do use only one match with no liquid fossil fuel used. You find the right tinder you dont have to cheat using a liquid fuel.

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Old James

Saudi Arabia, Canada, Sweden, Khazakstan, Australia and New Zeeland has something in common.
https://twitter.com/MaxCRoser/status/594866121855074304
Rather weird don't you Think.

So, does this mean that the government should step in and if so, do what? For the greater good should people be forced to change their traditions? Looks like more big brother to me.

Eduction is the best way.
And that young females are educated as well.
Remember last year Nobel Peace Price laureates?