The only relation and history between Russia and Khazakstan is when Khazakstan become a satellite state to Soviet Union.

LOL. You are ignorant sometimes. What a Soviet Union was in 18th century? In 1730 Abul Khayr, one of the khans of the Kazakh's Lesser Horde, sought Russian assistance. The Middle Horde was conquered in 1798, the Great Horde managed to remain independent until the 1820s, when the expanding Kokand Khanate to the south forced the Great Horde khans to choose Russian protection.

Valdemar Old Norse as Valdamarr is a name used by the Vikings long before Russia existed!

Nonsense. Valdemar name is a Germanised version of Slavonic name Vladimir.

Germanised? What is that? Germany didn't exist back then.

LOL. You are ignorant sometimes. You can read this for example - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_languages

How can I be ignorant about my own language?
Yes it belongs to the Germanic languages. Thats why we has so much in common.
But a branch to that is Norse.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Norse
West Norse, the modern languages of Norwegian, Faroese, Icelandic and Greenlandic Norse
East Norse, the modern languages of Danish and Swedish
Old Norse, a North Germanic language in use from c. AD 800 to c. AD 1300
Proto-Norse language, the Germanic language predecessor of Old Norse
Norn, an extinct North Germanic language that was spoken in Shetland and Orkney, off the north coast of mainland Scotland, and in Caithness

Russia belongs to Slavic language.
Finnish , Hungarian, Estonian and Sapmi belongs to Finnish-Hungarian language.
Those two are very different to Germanic languages.

The only relation and history between Russia and Khazakstan is when Khazakstan become a satellite state to Soviet Union.

LOL. You are ignorant sometimes. What a Soviet Union was in 18th century? In 1730 Abul Khayr, one of the khans of the Kazakh's Lesser Horde, sought Russian assistance. The Middle Horde was conquered in 1798, the Great Horde managed to remain independent until the 1820s, when the expanding Kokand Khanate to the south forced the Great Horde khans to choose Russian protection.

This time I was ignorant:) Sorry.

At that time the Swedes fought together with Ukrainians against the Russians.
Therefore Khazakstans history is sidelined.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Poltava

You are wrong twice.
1. "That number" is not declining but increasing at last years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Population_of_Russia.PNG

Hmm, more like stabilizing rather than declining, but okay I was wrong.

2. You are wrong about the "waste manpower like they did in WW2". If to summarize all losses of the Axis armies in battles on the Eastern front and compare it with the USSR army losses in the battles, it will be a ratio something about 1.5:1 only. Also, it was a very big losses of the Soviet civilians and POWs, yes, but when the Germans and their allies killed Soviet civilians and POWs, it was absolutely not the Russians "afford to waste manpower", it was the war crimes from the Axis side.

Nope, they did waste manpower. A POW is still a waste of manpower for the Russians, regardless of what the Germans did with them afterwards. Besides, its not like the Russians treated German POW's all that much better. Plenty of German POW's have died in Russian labor camps.

On top of that, having the workers that build the T-34 drive it straight to the front to participate in the war is again a waste of manpower. The entire early stage of the war was one giant waste of manpower for the Russians. 3 million soldiers captured, along with divisions worth of material just gone within the first few months.

And I don't know where you got that ratio from, but it seems nonsense to me. The Germans lost 4.4 million soldiers in the entire war, while the USSR lost somewhere between 8.7 million to 13 million soldiers during the war.

Correct numbers. Incorrect meaning.

The Russians could 'afford' their losses. The Germans could not.

After one year of war: The 'effective', front-line fighting strength, of Germany, was cut in half. While Russia remained the same.

Sure, its part of why the Russians won. But just because you can afford to lose a lot of troops doesn't mean you therefor should. But the Russians did, and as a result they did waste a lot of lives.

Correct numbers. Incorrect meaning.

The Russians could 'afford' their losses. The Germans could not.

After one year of war: The 'effective', front-line fighting strength, of Germany, was cut in half. While Russia remained the same.

Sure, its part of why the Russians won. But just because you can afford to lose a lot of troops doesn't mean you therefor should. But the Russians did, and as a result they did waste a lot of lives.

Which is why I brought that point up. In some countrys life is held cheap.
Chaff in the wind of battle.

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Speaking about afford losses.
I think Vova Putin should be more scared of his own people then the Western World.
I wouldn't surprised to see a Euromaiden in the future in Russia.
Probably is all this murders of opposion leaders and journalists a sign of that.
Thanks to Putin you get a shorter Life in poverty. 7 years shorter in Russia and 10 years shorter than the Western World.

Rapid changes have also given rise to a social decay with breakaway republics, corruption and mafia, wildcat strikes, political and economic chaos. In ten years, life expectancy has fallen by more than seven years. The reasons for the deteriorating health are many: environmental degradation, poor health care, economic impoverishment, social inequalities and political disintegration. The economy of the individual has deteriorated. Since 1990, real wages have fallen by two-thirds. Previously, people had more money, but there were few goods to buy. Today, more people are poor, but the shops are full of goods. 1990 two percent of Russian families was below the poverty line. Today the figure is 30 percent. About 50 million Russian citizens live on less than 500 dollars a month. Among the new poor are most of the country's 800,000 public employees.

The Russian population's health level fell sharply during the 1990s. Infant mortality is currently five times higher than in Western Europe. For poor groups leads a combination of poor diet and lack of health care and medicine to the deteriorating incomes and further illness. The deficiencies in health care and the large regional differences in welfare contributes to social gaps that may have destabilizing effects on the entire society

The Russian national anthem sound false.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yGJYryj-QY

Speaking about afford losses.
I think Vova Putin should be more scared of his own people then the Western World.
I wouldn't surprised to see a Euromaiden in the future in Russia.
Probably is all this murders of opposion leaders and journalists a sign of that.
Thanks to Putin you get a shorter Life in poverty. 7 years shorter in Russia and 10 years shorter than the Western World.

Rapid changes have also given rise to a social decay with breakaway republics, corruption and mafia, wildcat strikes, political and economic chaos. In ten years, life expectancy has fallen by more than seven years. The reasons for the deteriorating health are many: environmental degradation, poor health care, economic impoverishment, social inequalities and political disintegration. The economy of the individual has deteriorated. Since 1990, real wages have fallen by two-thirds. Previously, people had more money, but there were few goods to buy. Today, more people are poor, but the shops are full of goods. 1990 two percent of Russian families was below the poverty line. Today the figure is 30 percent. About 50 million Russian citizens live on less than 500 dollars a month. Among the new poor are most of the country's 800,000 public employees.

The Russian population's health level fell sharply during the 1990s. Infant mortality is currently five times higher than in Western Europe. For poor groups leads a combination of poor diet and lack of health care and medicine to the deteriorating incomes and further illness. The deficiencies in health care and the large regional differences in welfare contributes to social gaps that may have destabilizing effects on the entire society

The Russian national anthem sound false.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yGJYryj-QY

Well the thing is that this is nothing new. Throughout its entire history, Russia has been little more than a failed state, a patchwork of territories that are only held together by the brutal repression of dissent. You think the Soviets invented the gulags or the secret police? The soviets simply continued a centuries old tradition of sending political dissidents to work camps in Siberia.

Russia is only as good as its leader and that has always been the case.

Russia is only as good as its leader and that has always been the case.

Weird thing is that the Russians are accepting this and Putin is still popular. And that there are people in Ukraine that wants to be Russians.
Well the propaganda machine is working well.

Russian flags will flutter in Moscow and Simferopol today, a year after the takeover of the Crimea from Ukraine.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76882&postid=1654051#1654051

Russia wants to expand its borders in the Arctic with over one million square kilometers. An application must be submitted to the UN in this spring. At the same time the country build new military bases in the environmentally sensitive area.

Map over the Battle for the Arctic.
https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsvenska.yle.fi%2Fartikel%2F2014%2F11%2F02%2Fryssland-pa-frammarsch-i-arktis&edit-text=

It's announced that the Russian Defense Ministry will increase its military presence in the Arctic in order to defend the country's interests. The goal is to build thirteen new airbases and ten radar stations.
- Already this year we will deploy forces across the Russian Arctic, in practice, from Murmansk to Chukotka, said Defense Minister Sergei Sjojgu to the Russian news agency Ria.
According to the defense minister, Russia has turned itself because of the NATO countries' increasing interest in the area. In the past, President Putin announced on a system of marine bases for warships and submarines to be built up in the Arctic.
Russia also wants to establish two Arctic brigades will be stationed in Arkhangelsk and Murmansk. Under the plan, the first start functioning this year.

Statiol, Shell and ExxonMobil have invested very much in Russian oil companies!

Another hotspot is Gotland.
https://www.google.se/maps/@57.610622,18.5481181,8zhttps://www.google.se/maps/@56.8795245,18.9079204,7z
Iskander back to Kaliningrad (Shown on th map). Russia to send new missiles to Baltic exclave on maneuvers.

Weird thing is that the Russians are accepting this and Putin is still popular. And that there are people in Ukraine that wants to be Russians.
Well the propaganda machine is working well.

No. It is Russian 'Way', and Historical Culture.
An Authoritarian, and sometime Brutal Dictatorship (Tsar, Commissar, Putin I), appears to be accepted, and possibly considered 'normal', by the Russian people.
They live in their universe. We live in ours.

That Russians always follow authoritarians is true.
But I Think it's most because they don't have a free press and not allow opposition parties.
The first victim in a dictatorial state is freedom of speech.

And possibly, in many cases Freedom of Thought.
We, in The West, believe those living in these Authoritarian/Brutal Dictatorships, still have their thoughts.
Having spoken to many, after fleeing: They, for their own safety, do change some of their Internal Thinking.
Perhaps that explains some of Putin's popularity.

I guess there are Freedom of Thought in Russia.
When home over a dinner with some vodka and friends Russians are more outspoken:)
But when leaving home... Stalin days again.

Where is the international military effort to dislodge Russia from Crimea?

Lack of testicular fortitude on the part of the EU, perhaps?

Nah, Crimea simply does not have oil and gas, the way Kuwait does, that EU and US depend on. It has some, but it is not in the critical supply chain path for neither EU or US.

Now, if Putin decided to annex Kuwait - watch out: bloody knuckles and broken glass right away.

Keep in mind, that international politics is NOT about friends and foes, it is about common and mutually exclusive business interests. All of it. Worldwide.

No friends, just business partners. No enemies, just competition. Politicians, of course, can not admit to this, so they weave the tales of brotherhood, friendship, morality, righteousness, etc., for the simple-minded. This is their crowd control mechanism. Quite effective, I must add.

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* Wisdom is ability to get important things approximately right most of the time.
* Breakthrough is seeing what everyone else has seen, but thinking what no one else has thought.
* Cogito, ergo sum.

Nah, Crimea simply does not have oil and gas

What?
Like Everything Else, the Fight Over Crimea Is Also About Oil.
http://www.thewire.com/global/2014/04/like-everything-else-the-east-west-fight-over-crimea-is-about-oil/360488/
Guess what oil qompany investers are coming from?

Nah, Crimea simply does not have oil and gas...

Would you, please, read the rest of my original sentence?

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* Wisdom is ability to get important things approximately right most of the time.
* Breakthrough is seeing what everyone else has seen, but thinking what no one else has thought.
* Cogito, ergo sum.

Nah, Crimea simply does not have oil and gas...

Would you, please, read the rest of my original sentence?

I did, but whats your Point?

I thought I was quite clear. Sorry you can't understand it.

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* Wisdom is ability to get important things approximately right most of the time.
* Breakthrough is seeing what everyone else has seen, but thinking what no one else has thought.
* Cogito, ergo sum.

I thought I was quite clear. Sorry you can't understand it.

I'm lost in translation.
You say that the Crimea and the Black Sea hasn't oil and gas.
I tell you otherwise.
New York Times, and of course many others, has some articles about it.
Do you want some links?

btw. I have mentioned this in the Crimea threads 1,2,3,4,5,6,7

I'm lost in translation.
You say that the Crimea and the Black Sea hasn't oil and gas.
I tell you otherwise.
New York Times, and of course many others, has some articles about it.
Do you want some links?

No need. Just re-read my two original opening sentences:

"Nah, Crimea simply does not have oil and gas, the way Kuwait does, that EU and US depend on. It has some, but it is not in the critical supply chain path for neither EU or US."

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* Wisdom is ability to get important things approximately right most of the time.
* Breakthrough is seeing what everyone else has seen, but thinking what no one else has thought.
* Cogito, ergo sum.

I'm lost in translation.
You say that the Crimea and the Black Sea hasn't oil and gas.
I tell you otherwise.
New York Times, and of course many others, has some articles about it.
Do you want some links?

No need. Just re-read my two original opening sentences:
"Nah, Crimea simply does not have oil and gas, the way Kuwait does, that EU and US depend on. It has some, but it is not in the critical supply chain path for neither EU or US."

Ok you did a comparison to Kuwait.
That's not Russia and not even Europe.
US are not depending on Crimea or arabic oil and gas.
EU however is dependent on Russian oil and gas.
Crimea is now de facto a Russian province.

https://www.google.se/#q=crimea+russia+oil