And The US has a Cultural Invasion from everywhere. Every Country's Population, Religion, and Culture, is here.
Perhaps if we REALLY became 'One World': It would look like The USA.

Almost like European countries then:)
Without Putin and his henchmen and neo-nazis of course.

Two LARGE Oceans do help.
BTW: Neo-Nazi's are a joke here. Leaving out silly Left Wing Ideologue's Propaganda: They will not 'Take Over' here, nor have they ever.
Do some European Country's (love this spelling) believe they are an Internal Threat to 'Take Over' - again?

The hard core neo-nazis are for the moment quite few.
But that xenophobica ideas are growing in Europe are a fact.
It started in about the early 90's.
Even in the parlaments in Europe.
Greece, France, Hungary and Sweden:(
And UKIP in Britain.

Then we have Russia of course...

The hard core neo-nazis are for the moment quite few.
But that xenophobica ideas are growing in Europe are a fact.
It started in about the early 90's.
Even in the parlaments in Europe.
Greece, France, Hungary and Sweden:(
And UKIP in Britain.

Then we have Russia of course...

Xenophobic against all cultures not native to that particular region? Or to one particular culture?

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Xenophobic against all cultures not native to that particular region? Or to one particular culture?

At the risk of being redundant.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

The hard core neo-nazis are for the moment quite few.
But that xenophobica ideas are growing in Europe are a fact.
It started in about the early 90's.
Even in the parlaments in Europe.
Greece, France, Hungary and Sweden:(
And UKIP in Britain.
Then we have Russia of course...

Xenophobic against all cultures not native to that particular region? Or to one particular culture?

Not all cultures:)
I can only speek for my country. Here political parties talk about an immigration problem that so many comes from muslim countries mostly refugees from Kurdistan and Somalia.

However we embrace English and US Cultures:) No kidding.

Xenophobic against all cultures not native to that particular region? Or to one particular culture?

At the risk of being redundant.

Depends on the country. In some countries they are more openly racist and xenophobic against everyone than in others. But in general, the targets are Muslims and Gypsies.

That's the point.

It is not about a Non-Judeo/Christian Culture Immigrant.

Think of The Hindu, Buddhist, etc., Immigrant. It doesn't seem the be as big of a problem.

WHY?

Hindu? Well they aren't really a problem because there are hardly any of them in most European countries. And most Buddhist here are the new age types, not immigrants.

Also, aside from Muslims, Eastern Europeans are also often a target in Western European nations.

Over 3 Million Hindu's, basically in our large city's. Managing Non-Hindu Stores. Many are, as is usual first generation immigrant - Driving Taxi's, etc.

Here we have the most educated Taxi drivers in the World.
Qualified doctors, lawyers and teachers from ME universities.

The hard core neo-nazis are for the moment quite few.
But that xenophobica ideas are growing in Europe are a fact.
It started in about the early 90's.
Even in the parlaments in Europe.
Greece, France, Hungary and Sweden:(
And UKIP in Britain.
Then we have Russia of course...

Xenophobic against all cultures not native to that particular region? Or to one particular culture?

Not all cultures:)
I can only speek for my country. Here political parties talk about an immigration problem that so many comes from muslim countries mostly refugees from Kurdistan and Somalia.

That's the point.

It is not about a Non-Judeo/Christian Culture Immigrant.

Think of The Hindu, Buddhist, etc., Immigrant. It doesn't seem the be as big of a problem.

WHY?

In my opinion it can be boiled down to one word ISLAM

Definition from the Islamic website
http://muslimvoices.org/word-islam-meaning/

"In Arabic, the word “Islam” means submission or surrender – however, it was derived from the root word “salam”. From this root word, you can also derive the words peace and safety. Many people feel that Islam implies some sort of enslavement to Allah, but others find it more helpful to define the word “Islam” as surrender.

Many religions have a concept of surrender to God. In Jewish history, when the ancient Hebrews obeyed God’s commands, they had a long period of prosperity and stability.

In Christianity, surrendering to God is a way of putting your life into more capable hands – in fact, Jesus asked many of his disciples to surrender their livelihoods and follow him.

So, if we look at the word ‘Islam’ in this way, we can understand why obeying Allah’s commands and trusting in Allah’s wisdom could bring about peace for a Muslim.

The word does not represent a one-sided relationship, where the believer is enslaved to Allah. Rather, the word Islam indicates a covenant between Allah and his followers, where a Muslim surrenders his or her will to Allah in return for peace or safety."

Enough said, to 'Surrender' to Allah who's words are interpreted by MEN who cannot be questioned as to their reasoning(Mullahs) without punishment frequently including death. A BIG difference between 'ancient' thinking and modern Jewish, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist or even Democratic concepts of self determination.

"In Christianity, surrendering to God is a way of putting your life into more capable hands – in fact, Jesus asked many of his disciples to surrender their livelihoods and follow him."

To surrender your WILL to any philosophy or religion that is interpreted by any MAN or WOMAN is foolish to the point of fatality. Example: The 1100 American followers of Jim Jones who drank cyanide and force fed their BABIES cyanide at the word of a drug addled leader who used the name of GOD and Jesus Christ to create his perverted vision.

God or Allah or whatever creator you believe in including Evolution gave the human race a brain sophisticated enough to make(in most cases) intelligent and rational decisions concerning their personal and societal existences. To surrender that brain to the will of another without question is antithetical to survival.

From that viewpoint carefully watching Muslim communities who refuse to integrate into the society of the country to which they immigrated, would seem prudent not xenophobic(which by the way means fear of ALL things not familiar, not just one particular culture, that is called descrimination).

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

In my opinion it can be boiled down to one word ISLAM

Very good observation DG. But I would like to add some more.
It can be boiled down to two words, Religion and Culture. Odd in the 21'th Century.
Let's say that an American emmigrate to Europe. Would he/she stop beeing an American?

In my opinion it can be boiled down to one word ISLAM

Very good observation DG. But I would like to add some more.
It can be boiled down to two words, Religion and Culture. Odd in the 21'th Century.
Let's say that an American emmigrate to Europe. Would he/she stop beeing an American?

Being American is a geographic designation, we are diverse in culture, belief, and political views and usually intermingle if not immerse ourselves in the culture we immigrated to(emigration from the US doesn't happen very often, immigration both legal and otherwise is another story, we don't have a fence to keep people IN).

I would beg to disagree, religious tolerance is a right in the US, cultural tolerance is also protected and encouraged by any free society. But for that openness we pay the price of the risk of internal insurgency sponsored by non-tolerant groups, in the current context, Radical Islamist Terrorism.

'Watchful' tolerance is what is required for any group vowing to kill you.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

In my opinion it can be boiled down to one word ISLAM

Very good observation DG. But I would like to add some more.
It can be boiled down to two words, Religion and Culture. Odd in the 21'th Century.
Let's say that an American emmigrate to Europe. Would he/she stop beeing an American?

Being American is a geographic designation, we are diverse in culture, belief, and political views and usually intermingle if not immerse ourselves in the culture we immigrated to(emigration from the US doesn't happen very often, immigration both legal and otherwise is another story, we don't have a fence to keep people IN).
I would beg to disagree, religious tolerance is a right in the US, cultural tolerance is also protected and encouraged by any free society. But for that openness we pay the price of the risk of internal insurgency sponsored by non-tolerant groups, in the current context, Radical Islamist Terrorism.
'Watchful' tolerance is what is required for any group vowing to kill you.

And? Sounds VERY much like Europe to me:)
Have you been to Europe lately?

Please dont start a US vs Europe "debate". Putin like that very much!

In my opinion it can be boiled down to one word ISLAM

Very good observation DG. But I would like to add some more.
It can be boiled down to two words, Religion and Culture. Odd in the 21'th Century.
Let's say that an American emmigrate to Europe. Would he/she stop beeing an American?

Being American is a geographic designation, we are diverse in culture, belief, and political views and usually intermingle if not immerse ourselves in the culture we immigrated to(emigration from the US doesn't happen very often, immigration both legal and otherwise is another story, we don't have a fence to keep people IN).
I would beg to disagree, religious tolerance is a right in the US, cultural tolerance is also protected and encouraged by any free society. But for that openness we pay the price of the risk of internal insurgency sponsored by non-tolerant groups, in the current context, Radical Islamist Terrorism.
'Watchful' tolerance is what is required for any group vowing to kill you.

And? Sounds VERY much like Europe to me:)
Have you been to Europe lately?

Please dont start a US vs Europe "debate". Putin like that very much!

No debate there at all, I stated: "cultural tolerance is also protected and encouraged by any free society." If Europe considers itself a free society, I was being inclusive. The point being Russia is being Russian as usual with only it's own interests at heart. The REAL problem facing the world is the Islamic State and it's supporters in EVERY COUNTRY ON EARTH.

Russia will always seek to protect it's territory with buffers, we agree. But unlike ISIS does not want a direct confrontation with the West (EU,NATO,UK,US).The EU does not have the stomach for a full set of sanctions over fear of energy retaliation and would probably not support such an action from the US/UK.

Ukraine is most probably lost. The Balkans and EU need to insulate themselves from Russian energy domination as rapidly as possible. The distaste for Nuclear power generation will have to be put aside and gas fracking exploration started in promising areas, COUPLED with the developement of alternative sources to prevent future Russian blackmail.

As to ISIS the US/UK/NATO/EU West cannot directly confront them on the battlefield. Their reason for existence is to promote the battle called Armageddon (in both Koran and the Bible)bringing the 'End of Days'. By facing them their prophecy of a Western Crusade comes true. Total annihilation of mankind is their message. The most victims of ISIS have been other Muslims! Deemed heretics to be killed, by the Mullahs.

The only force that can face ISIS must be composed of other Muslims. We can support them with everything needed, but until the 'moderate' Muslim world call them out as did the President of Egypt(regardless of his history), the butchers will continue to commit even more horrific atrocities.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

In my opinion it can be boiled down to one word ISLAM

Very good observation DG. But I would like to add some more.
It can be boiled down to two words, Religion and Culture. Odd in the 21'th Century.
Let's say that an American emmigrate to Europe. Would he/she stop beeing an American?

First Generation: Probably not.
Second Generation: Possibly.
Third Generation: Yes.

I would say already Second Generation change.
My sister is a First Generation immigrant to England.
My nephew is second generation and behaves like a real Brit.

Well stated & I bet the diplomats know that too keenly. So, we just have to continue seeing them play their stupid little "statesmanship" games.

In my opinion it can be boiled down to one word ISLAM

Very good observation DG. But I would like to add some more.
It can be boiled down to two words, Religion and Culture. Odd in the 21'th Century.
Let's say that an American emmigrate to Europe. Would he/she stop beeing an American?

Being American is a geographic designation, we are diverse in culture, belief, and political views and usually intermingle if not immerse ourselves in the culture we immigrated to(emigration from the US doesn't happen very often, immigration both legal and otherwise is another story, we don't have a fence to keep people IN).
I would beg to disagree, religious tolerance is a right in the US, cultural tolerance is also protected and encouraged by any free society. But for that openness we pay the price of the risk of internal insurgency sponsored by non-tolerant groups, in the current context, Radical Islamist Terrorism.
'Watchful' tolerance is what is required for any group vowing to kill you.

And? Sounds VERY much like Europe to me:)
Have you been to Europe lately?

Please dont start a US vs Europe "debate". Putin like that very much!

No debate there at all, I stated: "cultural tolerance is also protected and encouraged by any free society." If Europe considers itself a free society, I was being inclusive. The point being Russia is being Russian as usual with only it's own interests at heart. The REAL problem facing the world is the Islamic State and it's supporters in EVERY COUNTRY ON EARTH.

Russia will always seek to protect it's territory with buffers, we agree. But unlike ISIS does not want a direct confrontation with the West (EU,NATO,UK,US).The EU does not have the stomach for a full set of sanctions over fear of energy retaliation and would probably not support such an action from the US/UK.

Ukraine is most probably lost. The Balkans and EU need to insulate themselves from Russian energy domination as rapidly as possible. The distaste for Nuclear power generation will have to be put aside and gas fracking exploration started in promising areas, COUPLED with the developement of alternative sources to prevent future Russian blackmail.

As to ISIS the US/UK/NATO/EU West cannot directly confront them on the battlefield. Their reason for existence is to promote the battle called Armageddon (in both Koran and the Bible)bringing the 'End of Days'. By facing them their prophecy of a Western Crusade comes true. Total annihilation of mankind is their message. The most victims of ISIS have been other Muslims! Deemed heretics to be killed, by the Mullahs.

The only force that can face ISIS must be composed of other Muslims. We can support them with everything needed, but until the 'moderate' Muslim world call them out as did the President of Egypt(regardless of his history), the butchers will continue to commit even more horrific atrocities.

Oh my. This is a lot of opinions. It could easily be split to several threads:=
Never mind. I start with this.

1 "If Europe considers itself a free society, I was being inclusive."
Europe, EU, considers itself a free society when it comes to free trade, Agricultural and health security to about 90%
Military security issues...?

2. "The REAL problem facing the world is the Islamic State and it's supporters in EVERY COUNTRY ON EARTH."
Not the real problem now. Russia!

3. "Ukraine is most probably lost"
Yes. but why?

4. "Their reason for existence is to promote the battle called Armageddon (in both Koran and the Bible)"
Very off topic

Again, you are 'picking nits' worrying about the Bear nibbling on your toes and ignoring the pack of rabid dogs who will eat you whole.

Not off topic in context with the sleight of hand game being played by Putin.

As they say in crime movies "Move along, nothing to see here".

Keep your eyes closed and wish it all away, once again, good luck.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Not off topic in context with the sleight of hand game being played by Putin.

This thread is about Russia. Not the IS.
But it's SSDN!

Not off topic in context with the sleight of hand game being played by Putin.

This thread is about Russia. Not the IS.
But it's SSDN!

You were the one who introduced immigration from Muslim countries into the conversation. I merely expanded on your statement regarding xenophobia.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Why Muslim's?

Most obvious and most visible immigrant group, therefor most visible target.

Also of course the whole war on terror which has a rather anti Muslim bias to it.

Not off topic in context with the sleight of hand game being played by Putin.

This thread is about Russia. Not the IS.
But it's SSDN!

You were the one who introduced immigration from Muslim countries into the conversation. I merely expanded on your statement regarding xenophobia.

I have not introduced immigration from Muslim countries into the conversation.
Merely commented on others who did that.
11 Days ago.