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Message 1672510 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 9:01:43 UTC - in response to Message 1672505.  

Also many people who are don't knows pick one of the first three names on the paper which are in alphabetical order, that will slew results as well.

I'd never considered that, interesting idea.
Could it be countered by printed the ballot papers in a random order do you think?
If there are five candidates then there are 5! = 120 ways of arranging them, so in a constituency with 70,000 people they would need 584 of each ordering, that's got to be possible.
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Message 1672564 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 13:36:34 UTC - in response to Message 1672537.  

It has always been done alphabetically with candidate surnames to avoid any accusation of printing the parties in order of preference or popularity. I guess random printing wouldn't guarantee that.

Huh? They draw lots here for each precinct to get the order.

And it is a sad commentary on the get everyone to vote crowd that the order of names on the ballot makes any difference.
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Message 1672586 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 15:11:54 UTC

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Message 1672656 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 17:54:54 UTC - in response to Message 1672575.  


Now then lets turn to you shall we? Brand new poster, only joined April 5th 2015, no country, no team, computers hidden, yet you seem to know quite a bit about my background and previous posts. So who are you really? An alter alias of someone, your style of writing is somewhat familiar. The clues are that you could well be UK based and of Uni student age, or the parent of one. You come across as female as well. So are we Fessing up or not?

You beat me to it :-)
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Message 1672702 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 18:59:47 UTC

Watch out Britain...
Graham W Phillips @GrahamWP_UK · 4 tim för 4 timmar sedan
A poll card - I'll be using mine next Thursday in our General Election, because I care about the future of the UK.

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Message 1672720 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 19:39:21 UTC - in response to Message 1672716.  

Well, the good thing about that is that'll we'll know in 7 days what way the wind blows for the next 5 years...

...hopefully, it'll not be an ill wind.
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Message 1672749 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 20:41:26 UTC - in response to Message 1672743.  

And yet we have some people urging the public not to vote.

Are you meaning Russel Brand?
He's weird. Saying that voting is meaningless is....
What ever means have peoples to speak out?
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Message 1672795 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 22:02:56 UTC - in response to Message 1672090.  

I personally believe that we will do the best that we can for our country. What else can I say?

food bank Britain

If you are looking for a "reason" to vote Lib Dem, I have given you the best info that I can.

Here? http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77001&postid=1668334
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From the article:
Labour has promised to defend the ban, the Conservatives say they will offer parliament a free vote on repealing it, while the Liberal Democrats say hunting is not a priority, but would allow their MPs a free vote if the issue arises.


and here? http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76606&postid=1643699: From the article:

The 2010 Conservative manifesto said the Hunting Act was "unworkable" and promised a free vote by MPs on its repeal.

The party says it remains committed to this if it wins a parliamentary majority in May.

Curiouser and curiouser. So that you can pat yourself on the back again,
My honest view is to either vote Conservative or Lib Dem,

you're actively endorsing the possibility of a return to fox hunting. Wow.

I have spoken to a lot of Uni students,

Did you speak to them in the same disrespectful way you speak to them on these boards? For a project that has an appeal to all ages and is attracting a new and younger set of users as a result of the world visualisation map on facebook, you're hardly a welcoming ambassador. Your dismissal of whole nations, even continents, whilst waving your colonial empire flag is not befitting to an international science project either, surely?

I live in a Uni town, that were initially quite hostile towards the Lib Dems because of this. But when it was explained to them why it happened they have all said OK, we can understand a lot more now, we never knew that before, we never got told. And in fact it was only publicised for the first time last autumn.

Four years to craft an excuse for betraying a generation? Wow - must have been hard.

Up to you guys as to what you vote, but I would urge not to vote Labour, I'd rather anything than them!!

So you'd endorse the TUSC then? They pledge to scrap zero hour contracts and curb exhorbitant rents.

Cameron has 5 years of experience under his belt. He IS a Prime Minister, He LOOKS a prime Minister, and ACTS like a Prime Minister.

...like a pig who has spent a lot of time at the trough throughout.

I want to see him back in No.10, but under control, and only the Lib Dems can do that. It is vitally important that we get as many Lib Dem seats as possible on the 7th, only then can we keep this country on the straight and narrow for the next 5 years.

Straight and narrow? Britain's richest Tory MP, property tycoon Richard Benyon, receives at least £625,000 a year in housing benefit from having struggling tenants and more than £2million in EU subsidies for his farms.

Tory peer Lord Cavendish, received £106,938 in housing benefit last year from his tenants going through hard times.
Tory donor Sir Richard Sutton received £67,521 in from West Berkshire Council. Even after they die, they keep raking it in. The estate of one of Britain’s richest men, the billionaire Earl of Cadogan, a Tory donor, received £116,400 in benefit from Kensington and Chelsea Council last year.

UKIP’s housing spokesman Andrew Charalambous received £745,351 in housing benefit from his tenants. That's just a few examples. The legalised corruption in British politics runs deep throughout all parties.

When the Conservatives introduced housing benefit under Margaret Thatcher, it was never about helping struggling tenants. It was always about allowing their donors and MP's to rake in ever more money from higher rents. The last five years have been spent demonising those at the bottom. And that's just one of your "straight and narrow" ambitions, and is precisely why people like Russell Brand have garnered attention. It's wrong. The right to vote was hard won, but it's mainstream parties that have eroded the desire to vote and you keep on endorsing two out of three of those. Leaving almost everyone else in this thread to endorse UKIP, which is an utterly repellent party to many.

As to this: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76606&postid=1671497

I suggest you differentiate, because 2 out of three are sexist and actionable

Preach it sister!

@Chris,

You asked what people think about the university student that posts here? I assume you are talking about Мишель?
Well we think that he is a smart young man who clearly likes to think about the whys and hows of the world. I may not agree with him on everything, but I see someone who is trying to enlighten themselves and he is certainly a rational and welcome addition to these message boards. Is that what you wanted to know?
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Message 1672800 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 22:23:30 UTC - in response to Message 1672795.  

I personally believe that we will do the best that we can for our country. What else can I say?

food bank Britain

If you are looking for a "reason" to vote Lib Dem, I have given you the best info that I can.

Here? http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77001&postid=1668334
This is one of the reason I joind the Hunt Sabs.
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From the article:
Labour has promised to defend the ban, the Conservatives say they will offer parliament a free vote on repealing it, while the Liberal Democrats say hunting is not a priority, but would allow their MPs a free vote if the issue arises.


and here? http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76606&postid=1643699: From the article:

The 2010 Conservative manifesto said the Hunting Act was "unworkable" and promised a free vote by MPs on its repeal.

The party says it remains committed to this if it wins a parliamentary majority in May.

Curiouser and curiouser. So that you can pat yourself on the back again,
My honest view is to either vote Conservative or Lib Dem,

you're actively endorsing the possibility of a return to fox hunting. Wow.

I have spoken to a lot of Uni students,

Did you speak to them in the same disrespectful way you speak to them on these boards? For a project that has an appeal to all ages and is attracting a new and younger set of users as a result of the world visualisation map on facebook, you're hardly a welcoming ambassador. Your dismissal of whole nations, even continents, whilst waving your colonial empire flag is not befitting to an international science project either, surely?

I live in a Uni town, that were initially quite hostile towards the Lib Dems because of this. But when it was explained to them why it happened they have all said OK, we can understand a lot more now, we never knew that before, we never got told. And in fact it was only publicised for the first time last autumn.

Four years to craft an excuse for betraying a generation? Wow - must have been hard.

Up to you guys as to what you vote, but I would urge not to vote Labour, I'd rather anything than them!!

So you'd endorse the TUSC then? They pledge to scrap zero hour contracts and curb exhorbitant rents.

Cameron has 5 years of experience under his belt. He IS a Prime Minister, He LOOKS a prime Minister, and ACTS like a Prime Minister.

...like a pig who has spent a lot of time at the trough throughout.

I want to see him back in No.10, but under control, and only the Lib Dems can do that. It is vitally important that we get as many Lib Dem seats as possible on the 7th, only then can we keep this country on the straight and narrow for the next 5 years.

Straight and narrow? Britain's richest Tory MP, property tycoon Richard Benyon, receives at least £625,000 a year in housing benefit from having struggling tenants and more than £2million in EU subsidies for his farms.

Tory peer Lord Cavendish, received £106,938 in housing benefit last year from his tenants going through hard times.
Tory donor Sir Richard Sutton received £67,521 in from West Berkshire Council. Even after they die, they keep raking it in. The estate of one of Britain’s richest men, the billionaire Earl of Cadogan, a Tory donor, received £116,400 in benefit from Kensington and Chelsea Council last year.

UKIP’s housing spokesman Andrew Charalambous received £745,351 in housing benefit from his tenants. That's just a few examples. The legalised corruption in British politics runs deep throughout all parties.

When the Conservatives introduced housing benefit under Margaret Thatcher, it was never about helping struggling tenants. It was always about allowing their donors and MP's to rake in ever more money from higher rents. The last five years have been spent demonising those at the bottom. And that's just one of your "straight and narrow" ambitions, and is precisely why people like Russell Brand have garnered attention. It's wrong. The right to vote was hard won, but it's mainstream parties that have eroded the desire to vote and you keep on endorsing two out of three of those. Leaving almost everyone else in this thread to endorse UKIP, which is an utterly repellent party to many.

As to this: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76606&postid=1671497

I suggest you differentiate, because 2 out of three are sexist and actionable

Preach it sister!

@Chris,

You asked what people think about the university student that posts here? I assume you are talking about Мишель?
Well we think that he is a smart young man who clearly likes to think about the whys and hows of the world. I may not agree with him on everything, but I see someone who is trying to enlighten themselves and he is certainly a rational and welcome addition to these message boards. Is that what you wanted to know?


I support this post.

I also was about to complain about the use of the T-word used by Chris S, thank you tami for bringing this up.
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Message 1673148 - Posted: 2 May 2015, 21:01:49 UTC

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Message 1673428 - Posted: 3 May 2015, 16:20:17 UTC - in response to Message 1673283.  

@Sirius B - I will have a response for you later,

Okay.

Our local elections: - Bella Saltmarsh (Liberal Party) as she is constantly out & about & doing the best she can for our local community (& that is a hell of a lot more than all the others combined).

General Election - I don't like wasting my vote but: -

Stewart Jackson (Conservative) Enjoys his trappings & has not done anywhere near enough for his city.

Chris Ash {Liberal) Has represented this Ward since 2000, yet in the 6 years I've lived in this ward, never seen him.

Lisa Forbes (Labour) Until today, never heard of her, yet she's lived here for 25 years?

Mary Herdman (UKIP) Until last week, never heard of her either. Lived in Thorney the past 18 years? Find that surprising as Thorney is a small but pleasant village. Have done countless deliveries there over the past 30 years, so the odds are that I should have bumped into her either on a home or retail delivery as she has her own property business.

Darren Fower {Lib-Dems) Professes to know all the areas of this city & for someone wanting to become this city's MP, only canvasses his local community (which btw is a "posh" area). It's not that big a city so could easily show his face other than his own local area.

So the question here for me is: -

Do I vote for the person or party?

If party, which one & why?
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Message 1673456 - Posted: 3 May 2015, 18:01:34 UTC - in response to Message 1673450.  

Locally the obvious choice is Bella Saltmarsh, she is also the Deputy Mayor.

Nationally well ..... At the present moment the bookies odds for your Constituency are these

4/9 Conservatives
13/8 Labour
25/1 UKIP
150/1 Liberal Democrats

I had an idea that Fower would be bottom of the list, but not by that much. I like a bet now & again, but no way betting on a dead horse :-)

As for local elections, I'm voting for Bella.
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Message 1673461 - Posted: 3 May 2015, 18:14:05 UTC

I don't know if this has been posted already, but you can sign up for a vote swap to make sure the Tories don't get in again:

http://voteswap.org/
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Message 1673468 - Posted: 3 May 2015, 18:38:15 UTC - in response to Message 1673464.  

What guarantee has anyone got that their verbal or written pledge will actually be carried out in real life in the ballot cubical. Nothing whatsoever. This site is an irrelevance. It has no relation at all with MP's doing Pairing in the House of Commons.

This is simply Es99 encouraging everyone not to vote Conservative.

I think it is an example of grass roots action and people not wanting to make the mistake they did last time when they tactically voted libdem to keep the tories out and were betrayed.

I sincerely hope the libdems are consigned to the dustbin of history for what they did.
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Message 1673475 - Posted: 3 May 2015, 19:19:41 UTC

As far as I'm concerned & I've stated this often on this board, the Lib-Dems have some good policies but I do not like or trust their leader & until he's gone, I'll not vote for them.

How many more in the country feel the same way, that is the question not for the country but the Liberal Democrat Party to resolve.

I voted for Maggie twice because being a public sector worker at the time, wanted Labour out as they destroyed the country.

The current Tories are only out for themselves so they won't be getting my vote either...

...the remaining choices are, excluding Labour...
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Message 1673804 - Posted: 4 May 2015, 13:05:43 UTC
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Which party will win the most seats in the General election 2015?
http://www.nicerodds.co.uk/most-seats
You wanna bet?
Since most voters are voting according to their size of the wallet...
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Message 1673813 - Posted: 4 May 2015, 13:44:54 UTC - in response to Message 1673799.  

In 2010 the country needed a workable government, the numbers didn't stack up with Labour, the only answer was a coalition. Nobody "leapt" into bed with anybody. What was found upon taking office was earth shattering, nobody could believe how Labour had brought the country to its knees and had lied through their teeth about it.

Nobody could believe it? So you're saying that ALL politicians then were no older than 30 years old? You don't recall the mess that Labour left Maggie to clean up?
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Message 1673850 - Posted: 4 May 2015, 16:36:04 UTC - in response to Message 1673831.  


Industrial disputes and widespread strikes in the 1978 "Winter of Discontent" made Callaghan's government unpopular, and the defeat of the referendum on devolution for Scotland led to the successful passage of a motion of no confidence in 1979. This was followed by a defeat in the ensuing general election.


An interesting afterthought from Callagham when he looked back and reflected upon his term as Chancellor then Prime Minister. He stated that his biggest error was in trying to spend the UK out of the recession back then. Shoot forwards to today with Nicola Sturgeon spouting how, if in coalition with the Labour party, she will bring austerity to an end, just shows how politicians never learn from the past. History tends to repeat itself, and why, 'cos it's different this time around and what did not work then will work this time......will it????? You tell me what's the difference between one recession and another?...Nothing, there all caused by the same thing, contraction in demand, contraction in money supply. Governments making up the contraction in money supply with QE is actually the wrong source of supply of money. It immediately creates an imbalance within the economy, the correct source of money supply is that which comes from the public's pocket when they spend....at the moment the latter just ain't 'appening!!...that's why after all this QE we are still in a world-wide recession.
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Message 1673856 - Posted: 4 May 2015, 16:52:21 UTC - in response to Message 1673831.  

In the general election of 1979 The Conservative Party, led by Margaret Thatcher ousted the incumbent Labour government of James Callaghan with a parliamentary majority of 44 seats. her became the United Kingdom's and Europe's first female head of government.

The previous parliamentary term had begun in 1974, when Harold Wilson led Labour to a majority of three seats, but within 18 months he had resigned as prime minister to be succeeded by James Callaghan, and within a year the government's narrow parliamentary majority had gone. Callaghan had made agreements with the Liberals, the Ulster Unionists, as well as the Scottish and Welsh nationalists in order to remain in power.

Industrial disputes and widespread strikes in the 1978 "Winter of Discontent" made Callaghan's government unpopular, and the defeat of the referendum on devolution for Scotland led to the successful passage of a motion of no confidence in 1979. This was followed by a defeat in the ensuing general election.

You're doing it again. When asked for your own views on an issue, you refer to "educate" us with quotes from elsewhere. For once, how about providing your own personal views.

What your quote does not show is what Labour & their union minnows did to the pubic sector. You however, if what you have posted to date is correct, were lucky enough to join a now privatised public utility, so your bed was made & stuff the rest of the country?
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Message 1673860 - Posted: 4 May 2015, 17:07:11 UTC - in response to Message 1673858.  

and have not made the best they could have of being in a coalition government.

Leaving aside the press for a moment, the question is, why didn't they make the best of it?

It's not as if they were new to the "political game".
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