Kicking a dead horse... again (active SETI)

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Message 1629725 - Posted: 19 Jan 2015, 9:52:01 UTC

A continuation of a thread from a year ago, that has been locked for "cooldown" but never unlocked.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73772

The topic is still: active SETI, alien intelligence, cultural collision yada yada...

I will kick off the discussion by saying yes to Active SETI, simply because we can not assume that an ET advanced enough to visit us (the most interesting scenario of first contact) is likely to be on our mental level, meaning that they are more likely to be well beyond silly bickering for resources, fighting over religion, and whatever other nonsence.
I base that assumption on the truth that I hold to be self-evident: the more nonsense people are engaged in, the less actual technology for active space exploration there is, and the more we are obsessed with fighting, using our resources on things that help us "live to survive" instead of "live to advance & explore".
Advanced enough technology to travel to Earth would also mean the ET has no shortage of anything what so ever. By that I mean raw materials, fuel, food, whatever else. Having energy sources that enable interstellar (or intergalactic) travel equals unlimited everything. Literally.

Thus I firmly believe that Stephen Hawking is full of it when he compared possible first contact with something like the Conquistadores. I undertand the comparison, but the assumption is that technologically super-advanced species are mentally on the level of medievil inquisitions.
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Message 1629746 - Posted: 19 Jan 2015, 11:40:12 UTC - in response to Message 1629725.  
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Yep, though there are many possible views on interstellar communications could be I think that Efremov's Great Circle from "Туманность Андромеды" much more true than Hoyle's Andromeda ...
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Message 1629833 - Posted: 19 Jan 2015, 15:18:10 UTC

The truth is, PwNz0R, a discussion like this is pointless. We keep on going round in circles because we only talk hypothesis here. Nobody has any real proof (except for the governments or other "elite') but they will never tell the truth to the general population. Good thing some of us know the truth tho, although it's not 'proven' LOL
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Message 1629848 - Posted: 19 Jan 2015, 16:08:16 UTC - in response to Message 1629833.  

Think about it: Why would only "The Government" know about any alleged visitation ??
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Message 1629855 - Posted: 19 Jan 2015, 16:25:02 UTC - in response to Message 1629848.  

Think about it: Why would only "The Government" know about any alleged visitation ??


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http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76496
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Message 1630211 - Posted: 20 Jan 2015, 9:14:05 UTC - in response to Message 1629848.  

Think about it: Why would only "The Government" know about any alleged visitation ??


The Spock told im "it's only Logical!"
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Message 1631091 - Posted: 22 Jan 2015, 3:36:26 UTC - in response to Message 1629725.  

What is Active Seti ?

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I will kick off the discussion by saying yes to Active SETI,


??

Thus I firmly believe that Stephen Hawking is full of it when he compared possible first contact with something like the Conquistadores. I understand the comparison, but the assumption is that technologically super-advanced species are mentally on the level of medieval inquisitions.


I think your misunderstanding him . He means they will look at us the same way we look at people in the times of the inquisitions , primitive , savage , dangerous
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Message 1631153 - Posted: 22 Jan 2015, 7:47:21 UTC - in response to Message 1631091.  

What is Active Seti ?


sending a signal to Aliens: Active SETI
not sure it's a wise option!

if they see how we live, they might come to exterminate us...'cause we consume more than the planet can offer!
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Message 1631194 - Posted: 22 Jan 2015, 10:57:26 UTC - in response to Message 1631091.  

What is Active Seti ?

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I will kick off the discussion by saying yes to Active SETI,


??

Thus I firmly believe that Stephen Hawking is full of it when he compared possible first contact with something like the Conquistadores. I understand the comparison, but the assumption is that technologically super-advanced species are mentally on the level of medieval inquisitions.


I think your misunderstanding him . He means they will look at us the same way we look at people in the times of the inquisitions , primitive , savage , dangerous


+1, like so many people Glenn:(
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