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James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
So far I have seven of them on each of my 3 copmputers. Havent a clue as to how many more I will get. I looked at the workunit and see Im just one of 5 or 7 crunchers who have had a go of it. As I hate aborting any work I will continue crunching. But as Sherlock would say, Something is afoot. [/quote] Old James |
TBar Send message Joined: 22 May 99 Posts: 5204 Credit: 840,779,836 RAC: 2,768 |
2 issues, it needs to get fixed and we need to crunch thru this. You might as well Abort them. They are going to be sent to the next person anyway. Either you Abort them and they are sent on, or you run them and they are labeled Invalid and sent on anyway. The only difference is you save time and energy if you Abort them. I received one GPU task and let it run. It ran as a MBv6 task. It would have been labeled Invalid. I reran it as a CPU task and it finished Waayyy too fast. From my observations the CPU tasks are being labeled Invalid as well. So...I vaporized it and took the Error rather than the Invalid. Small victory I suppose... It's No Win....Kobayashi Maru ;-) |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
2 issues, it needs to get fixed and we need to crunch thru this. Yes its a no win. And Im no Captain Kirk:) So I will run them anyway. It stinks but as I said I hate aborting work. Let the chips fall as they may. [/quote] Old James |
Jeff Buck Send message Joined: 11 Feb 00 Posts: 1441 Credit: 148,764,870 RAC: 0 |
Look at it this way. If you don't abort them, you'll spend the time crunching them but it will be non-productive time, since the validator will turn thumbs down on the results. If you do abort them, the scheduler will send you fresh tasks to replace them and your machine can then spend the same amount of time in actual productive work. I hate to abort tasks, too. I think I've only done it a couple times before, and certainly not en masse like I have this weekend. But I figure if I'm going to burn electricity, I ought to be productive doing it. |
Zalster Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 5517 Credit: 528,817,460 RAC: 242 |
True. but if you abort enough eventually the server decides it doesn't want to send you anymore because you have been aborting them. A few is ok, but I'm closing in on over 200 of these things so if I had aborted all of them i'd probably be cut off from new work. Instead I crunch them and get rewarded with new work. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14649 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
I've been keeping an eye on the resend tasks going through my machines, and I still haven't seen anything except the seven channels which I posted at Beta and which Wedge009 confirmed here yesterday. So it looks as if the errant splitter was nipped in the bud when the tape was only half completed. There may still be some individual tasks lurking in the 'ready to send' queue, but we should flush them out when the work runs dry - as it looks as if it will later today. |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
Look at it this way. If you don't abort them, you'll spend the time crunching them but it will be non-productive time, since the validator will turn thumbs down on the results. If you do abort them, the scheduler will send you fresh tasks to replace them and your machine can then spend the same amount of time in actual productive work. I had a few too. Just found a total of three more waiting to run and killed them. I will not sleep poorly tonight (at least not because of these). David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
Zalster Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 5517 Credit: 528,817,460 RAC: 242 |
132 so far and another 133 in the inconclusive file waiting to be invalidated over 6 computers |
JanniCash Send message Joined: 17 Nov 03 Posts: 57 Credit: 1,276,920 RAC: 0 |
In the great scheme of things, will this glitch waste any more than 1/1E6 of all computing power, spent on S@H per year? I know, every bit counts, but if this amount of wasted CPU power is that important for the project, then I would assume getting rid of the weekly server outage every Tuesday should have a really high priority. It apparently doesn't, because the Tuesday outage is SOP and its impact on overall throughput seems well accepted. Looks like I'm going to have 3 of those bogus WU on my invalid list so far. So what? |
Zombu2 Send message Joined: 24 Feb 01 Posts: 1615 Credit: 49,315,423 RAC: 0 |
I'm gonna stop until this nonsense is sorted out .Do they not read the forums? I came down with a bad case of i don't give a crap |
JanniCash Send message Joined: 17 Nov 03 Posts: 57 Credit: 1,276,920 RAC: 0 |
Stop what? |
Zombu2 Send message Joined: 24 Feb 01 Posts: 1615 Credit: 49,315,423 RAC: 0 |
crunching i will finish the wu's i got and wait till the invalids are removed from being distributed I came down with a bad case of i don't give a crap |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11360 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
to do that we may have to crunch thru them. |
Zalster Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 5517 Credit: 528,817,460 RAC: 242 |
I look at it this way. I need to crunch about 12-14 MB in order to get the server to send me 1 AP. Now, I'm more than happy to crunch a 3 minute MB that gets invalidated if it gets me that AP. As opposed to Aborting the MBs which then gets counted against me. Abort 200 MBs, server stops sending you work. Get 200 invalids because of some auto correct error (as opposed to driver or equipment problem), the server will still send you work. So I'll burn through them just to get rid of them and get me those APs. My 2 cents Zalster |
Jeff Buck Send message Joined: 11 Feb 00 Posts: 1441 Credit: 148,764,870 RAC: 0 |
So I'll burn through them just to get rid of them and get me those APs. Do you think there's any special value to crunching APs vs. crunching MBs.....other than their excessively inflated credits? ;^) |
Zalster Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 5517 Credit: 528,817,460 RAC: 242 |
You said it, Credits. ;) |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13161 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
I keep looking at my two machines about every 4 hours and have been aborting between half a dozen and a dozen every time. This has been going on for about 3 days so far. They are still coming out of the server download queue. So I would say there is still quite a bit of them floating around. The ones that get sent and crunched while I sleep keep adding to the invalids. This is getting old. Wish there was a way to filter them out automatically if they are detected in the downloads. Does any one know how to accomplish such? Keith Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13720 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Well, I now know how it all ends up. 19ap11ad.19368.13946.140733193388035.12.133 errors Too many total results Completed, marked as invalid Completed, marked as invalid Completed, marked as invalid Completed, marked as invalid Completed, marked as invalid Completed, marked as invalid Completed, marked as invalid Completed, marked as invalid Completed, marked as invalid Completed, can't validate Grant Darwin NT |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
I'm gonna stop until this nonsense is sorted out .Do they not read the forums? As far as I am aware no "they" do not. However there are some of the "senior" members of these forums who do have contact and will alert the lab if the problem is considered serious enough. Whether the lab will react will depend on how serious they see the problem and how well staffed they are at the time. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11360 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
I didn't get any today, maybe the ptoblem has been sorted out. |
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