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Message 1625792 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 14:12:03 UTC

Looks strange indeed.

I have downloaded this task and will check it.
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Message 1625797 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 14:20:59 UTC - in response to Message 1625792.  

Looks strange indeed.

I have downloaded this task and will check it.

Check the <analysis_cfg> block, Mike, and compare it with the one I posted in WUs with very unusual Autocorr parameters at Beta.
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Message 1625803 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 14:30:50 UTC - in response to Message 1625797.  

Looks strange indeed.

I have downloaded this task and will check it.

Check the <analysis_cfg> block, Mike, and compare it with the one I posted in WUs with very unusual Autocorr parameters at Beta.


I just noticed it Richard.
Will check.
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Message 1625806 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 14:40:57 UTC

I can confirm we now have the same problem as at beta.
Got 2 tasks myself.

Analysis.cfg is similar to what Richard posted at beta.
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Message 1625811 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 14:53:37 UTC
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I think all the wu’s starting with 19ap11ad. end with invalid state.

Check my invalids and you will see just that.

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Message 1625812 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 14:58:09 UTC - in response to Message 1625811.  

It's an even tighter pattern than that. All posted so far (but I've only just seen Tim's post, unchecked as yet) have come from a single splitter/channel:

19ap11ad.19368.xxxxx.140733193388035.12.xxx
19ap11ad.19368.xxxxx.140733193388035.12.xxx
19ap11ad.19368.xxxxx.140733193388035.12.xxx
19ap11ad.19368.xxxxx.140733193388035.12.xxx
19ap11ad.19368.xxxxx.140733193388035.12.xxx
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Message 1625814 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 15:00:47 UTC - in response to Message 1625813.  

Now then, if the Beta splitter problem is now also here in Main, the question is if there's any idea at all to continue crunching MB at all here, until they have fixed the problem.

Not worth shutting down while it's still only one rogue channel - but we should perhaps be observant in case it spreads.
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Message 1625815 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 15:02:06 UTC - in response to Message 1625813.  

Now then, if the Beta splitter problem is now also here in Main, the question is if there's any idea at all to continue crunching MB at all here, until they have fixed the problem.


Just check your folder for those tasks.
I have none left in my cache.
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Message 1625832 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 15:59:12 UTC - in response to Message 1625815.  

Just check your folder for those tasks.
I have none left in my cache.


6 of them sitting in my invalids.
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Message 1625835 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 16:12:37 UTC - in response to Message 1625812.  

It's an even tighter pattern than that. All posted so far (but I've only just seen Tim's post, unchecked as yet) have come from a single splitter/channel:

19ap11ad.19368.xxxxx.140733193388035.12.xxx
19ap11ad.19368.xxxxx.140733193388035.12.xxx
19ap11ad.19368.xxxxx.140733193388035.12.xxx
19ap11ad.19368.xxxxx.140733193388035.12.xxx
19ap11ad.19368.xxxxx.140733193388035.12.xxx
19ap11ad.19368.xxxxx.140733193388035.12.xxx


I have one too, it on it's 7th try for verification.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1669812695
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Message 1625846 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 17:08:32 UTC
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Looks like I picked up about 35 of these on 3 of my hosts. Glad to know I didn't break something on my end:)



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EDIT: I might have 41, found more still in the inconclusive's
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Message 1625850 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 17:16:43 UTC

Ah, so that's what's going on. These are the invalid tasks I have relating to this issue so far. They match the pattern that Richard identified.

19ap11ad.19368.1294.140733193388035.12.241
19ap11ad.19368.4539.140733193388035.12.222
19ap11ad.19368.6175.140733193388035.12.164
19ap11ad.19368.6175.140733193388035.12.176
19ap11ad.19368.6175.140733193388035.12.192
19ap11ad.19368.6175.140733193388035.12.230
19ap11ad.19368.6993.140733193388035.12.10
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.5
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.11
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.15
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.16
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.27
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.28
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.40
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.42
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.46
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.48
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.54
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.59
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.60
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.64
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.65
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.66
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.70
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.71
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.72
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.76
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.77
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.78
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.82
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.84
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.88
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.94
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.100
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.102
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.106
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.112
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.118
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.123
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.124
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.130
19ap11ad.19368.7811.140733193388035.12.136
19ap11ad.19368.9447.140733193388035.12.142

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Message 1625856 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 17:28:28 UTC

Looks like I had two yesterday on my xw9400, 3897490306 and 3897490307.

And this morning, my daily driver downloaded a couple more, a _3 and a _4. It won't get to them for quite a few hours, so I could go ahead and abort them, but that just passes the problem on to some other unsuspecting cruncher. It would be best if these WUs could be blocked from being resent to anyone else. Any chance of that happening?
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Message 1625862 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 18:35:11 UTC - in response to Message 1625856.  

It happens quickly enough, like this: WU 1669850098
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Message 1625876 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 19:44:48 UTC - in response to Message 1625862.  

It happens quickly enough, like this: WU 1669850098

Perhaps, but I don't think the rapidity with which additional host processing resources can be wasted is as important as not wasting those resources at all, if it can be avoided. Certainly my host won't have to waste its time on those tasks if I abort them, but why should 4 or 5 more hosts have to waste their resources for no discernible purpose whatsoever. It's not like these are tasks which crap out after just a second or two of run time.
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Message 1625878 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 19:58:28 UTC

I've just had a clutch of these on two of my crunchers :-(

For some reason or other tasks are being miss-identified, and this is only on tasks that have been delivered in the last couple of days, I think it started after we had the delivery stall last week....
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Message 1625881 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 20:02:54 UTC - in response to Message 1625878.  
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Could it be that at with AP they are splitting 1 tape/file with 3 processes, and something is getting mixed up?

Never seen that on the MB side.

Just a thought.
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Message 1625886 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 20:09:46 UTC - in response to Message 1625832.  
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Just check your folder for those tasks.
I have none left in my cache.


6 of them sitting in my invalids.

I've got 14 in invalids and another four in inconclusive.
This one has been out to eight hosts already.
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Message 1625887 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 20:16:55 UTC - in response to Message 1625886.  

3 invalid so far and 17 inconclusive with the same dates that I'm sure will also get invalidated.
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