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Message 1624732 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015, 5:28:24 UTC

I have mixed emotions on sound bars. I have a 47inch VIZIO tv connected to a VIZIO 5.1 sound bar. I already had a sound system tune up disk so I added a Radio Shack sound meter. My first complaint was that the center speaker was so hot that I couldn't balance it out. I called the factory and got the response "there is no problem and that's how it should work. It sounds better that the speakers that came in the TV so I am living with it for now. One of these days I may try to crack it open and see if I can alter it and turn the volume on the one speaker.

The other issue is much of what I watch isn't mixed to use the rear speaker. This can be shocking because when you watch something like Back to the Future III, you are surprised by sounds that come from off the screen that come out of the rear speakers. Maybe more movies will be mixed to use all the speakers in the future.

The reason I bough the sound system is because the house is very hot sound wise. The walls are mostly dry wall and the floor is tile. It had such a bad echo before the furniture was moved in that you had to speak in a muted voice to be understood. The sound bar helps this problem by allowing for stronger base. Without the sound bar, the best solution was to turn the volume down as low a you could to reduce the echo.
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Message 1624836 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015, 10:54:36 UTC

I think it's all down to the type of viewing that suits you. Mike watches a lot of movies so it makes sense for him to have a s home cinema surround sound set up. Others listen to a lot of music either classical or pop so sound quality is the thing more than the volume as such. We tend to watch a broad vista of TV programs but we do have a DVD and Video player hooked up to the TV so we can watch or listen to all manner of stuff. The stereo and turntable hasn't been used in a few years now.

The Yamaha sound bar we have has 2 x 30W front channels, a 60w subwoofer and has a range of 50Hz to 22Khz with 7.1 surround sound. Connections are optical, coaxial, and analogue. Actually it doesn't have bluetooth that is the YAS-103 model which is more expensive. WE would like to try this 3D thingy but there are no 3D broadcasts yet and very few 3D DVD's about, but it is future proofed in that direction.

If I ever win the lottery then I'll buy a bigger house and get a 72" curved screen set with wireless 5.1 or 7.1 speakers. Drool drool ...
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Message 1625048 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015, 19:33:40 UTC - in response to Message 1624836.  

If I ever win the lottery then I'll buy a bigger house and get a 72" curved screen set


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Message 1625096 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015, 20:45:14 UTC

I watch a few movies too, on DVD, My 57" TV is about 20' from My computer desk, so cause of the size, I can watch tv easily and except for the tv needing new 150w lamps every once in a while, the tv has been very reliable, so it was worth the $1500 I spent on the tv initially, of the $1500 that the set cost Me, $400 was for shipping, the seller drove the tv here in person, He'd asked for $200 shipping originally and for Me to do a pickup, I doubled it and He delivered the tv in a van, straight from Arizona back in Oct 2006.

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Message 1625518 - Posted: 8 Jan 2015, 20:10:00 UTC

Scott, I haggle with AT and T every March and get the lowest advertised rate for my internet. I feel, I pay a bit much for my landline, but I have to have for friends and relatives to stay in touch.
Plus I had the same number for almost 35 years.
As to cable, we do nicely without it.
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Message 1625523 - Posted: 8 Jan 2015, 20:23:24 UTC

We have had the same House landline number (ex directory) for 32 years and my Mobile number for 20 years. Cable we just don't want thank you, nor Sky either. I stick with what works for me.
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Message 1625525 - Posted: 8 Jan 2015, 20:38:42 UTC - in response to Message 1625518.  

Scott, I haggle with AT and T every March and get the lowest advertised rate for my internet. I feel, I pay a bit much for my landline, but I have to have for friends and relatives to stay in touch.
Plus I had the same number for almost 35 years.
As to cable, we do nicely without it.

A way I deal with it is I discontinued long distance service on my land line, all can call in, I can call 800 numbers and retain 911 and directory listing. For long distance I use Magic Jack.
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Message 1625888 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 20:24:52 UTC - in response to Message 1625518.  

Plus I had the same number for almost 35 years.

The same landline number that was assigned to my parents when they got married in 1962 now rings on my cell.
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Message 1626151 - Posted: 10 Jan 2015, 16:05:58 UTC

Oh damn! A relative in Toronto wanted to do a New year Skype with us on this new TV setup, so I ordered a Samsung VG-STC4000/XC Smart TV Skype Camera. Apparently it has been lost at the carriers :-(( So a refund is on the way and I have had to order it from somewhere else.
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Message 1626340 - Posted: 11 Jan 2015, 6:34:57 UTC

Definitely don't need a 'sound bar' here, or back in Devon. Good old CRT TVs still in use and to be honest, I prefer them, as per my monitors (LaCie Electron Blue 22 IV).

The TVs...well, last one we had here was a Toshiba 3787DB 37" (yep, the really big 4:3 format TV) and we've been using a 36" Toshiba Widescreen with all the standard Dolby Surround satellite speakers, for about 18 months. That sounds pretty damned good, but then in the older sets, there was room to put decent sized speakers in them. On my last trip down to Devon, I took down with me a 32" Philips Match-line (the one with the beautiful cabinet and stand) and yes, it did all go in my car, but it is quite a large car. I figured that it was about time Mum had something a bit better than the 27" Panasonic that my sister gave her last year. I got it for a silly price and it was in perfect condition. Crazy to think that when it was new, it was apparently around £1400! There again, this monitor was an obscene price when it was new and I can remember paying around £600 for a Samsung SyncMaster 17 GLSI 17" monitor in about 1997, so maybe not so bad for 2005 or so.

As one might imagine, I did struggle at the other end, to get the beast out of the car, but ingenuity won the day, thanks to a sack-truck that was there, some plastic conduit, some garden ties and some excellent Devon beer, before and after! I got it all connected to the new Freeview HD Box, the new DVD player and switched it on and in spite of having travelled 300 miles in the car (long story), it worked brilliantly on the Freeview. I stuck a Harry Potter DVD into the player and then the music started....I've never heard such a rich, full sound come out of anything with a screen attached to it, in my entire life. I was absolutely astonished; it sounded like the full orchestra was in the room and in the audio options, was a 5 band equaliser amongst many other things. I thought my Toshiba was good, but that Philips made it sound asthmatic! Of course, it does lots of other tricks, but a lady of 81, isn't one "for fiddling with things".

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Message 1626385 - Posted: 11 Jan 2015, 11:46:58 UTC
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Hi Iona.

Our old Panasonic was a 27" 4:3 aspect CRT, we never had a widescreen CRT. We just got pissed off with films transmitted in wide screen format and the resultant letterbox effect. So we went from a mini to a Rolls Royce TV wise, missing out the Rover stage. But yes in the past TV sound quality was as important as picture quality but not these days, as most people have separate sound systems to hook up. My old dad wants what we have got now, but his hearing is so bad at his age that the sound is basically irrelevant and the picture will matter more to him.

The Samsung set we have got has an inbuilt 5 band sound equaliser that does enhance the bass quite well, but nothing like the sound bar quality. It's horses for courses. That Philips sounds like an excellent buy, well done.

Talking of excellent Devon beer, I must visit Millers farm shop again next time I go to Seaton :-)



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Message 1626488 - Posted: 11 Jan 2015, 17:58:55 UTC

I currently have a iLo 32" TV, one of my computers has a TV tuner card installed and that allows it to do DVR duty.

Sound output is through a optical connection to a Sony 7.1 receiver.

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Message 1626490 - Posted: 11 Jan 2015, 18:09:14 UTC

My TV sits on 2/3rds of a Gusdorf TV stand meant for a 27" TV, the upper part and the upper sections bolts were lost when I moved, so the TV sits on what's left and the TV stand acts like an isolation bearing for side to side ground movement, good enough for a 5.0 earthquake(there is 1 pair of long bolts in each corner holding this laminated stand together), a 5.0 earthquake hit this area a few years back, the TV just sat there, didn't tip over or anything. The stand houses My electronic devices for Internet and TV behind glass doors, plus behind the bottom doors My prerecorded VHS Tape collection, which one day I might convert to DVD-R Discs. Magnetic latches have been used here for years.

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Message 1626491 - Posted: 11 Jan 2015, 18:11:14 UTC

Internet prices in the US seem pretty steep. I'm with EE which gets me unlimited 17 meg broadband for just £2.50/month (yes, that's a two, the line rental is prepaid for the year at £130).
The media centre feeds into my 28" Sony flatscreen TV, small i know, but i only have a small living room so don't really want anything bigger. I was given it free by a former boss when he upgraded his telly.
Sound goes through a Sharp stereo system that's older than me, bought for a fiver in a jumble sale. Kicks out 80w per speaker, only stereo, but so is everything i watch.

Who needs to spend big money?
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Message 1626492 - Posted: 11 Jan 2015, 18:15:25 UTC

Who needs to spend big money?


A movie fan.

My home theatre system is approx €5000 and worth every cent.
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Message 1626498 - Posted: 11 Jan 2015, 18:31:43 UTC

The previous picture was of a Philips set that Iona was talking about.

So far I have spent

TV £437
Soundbar £150
Camera £50

For what I need that is sufficient. If Mike needs better stuff for his viewing wishes then fair enough.
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Message 1626499 - Posted: 11 Jan 2015, 18:33:17 UTC
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Who needs to spend big money?


A movie fan.

My home theatre system is approx €5000 and worth every cent.

I'm not at home enough to warrant that. :)
Case in point, it's 6.30 pm, and i'm in my office at the university marking second year practical reports.
I might suggest a sound bar to my parents though, they've often complained that the sound on their fancy telly is below par. I think the problem is that although the tv is large, it's thin, so there's no room for proper resonance.
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Message 1626503 - Posted: 11 Jan 2015, 18:45:48 UTC

$1500.00 57" Mitsubishi TV(includes $400 for delivery)
$   0.00 TWC DVR
$   ?.00 DVD player/VHS recorder(XMAS gift at one time)
$ 100.00 Gusdorf TV stand(it's a guess, as I've had this for about 20 years)

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Message 1631185 - Posted: 22 Jan 2015, 10:51:56 UTC
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My dear old dad was quite interested to hear about my new 21C all singing all dancing TV, the Samsung UE40H6400AK so we looked into it for him. He also had an old clunker of a 27" Toshiba, albeit a wide screen, where after 12 years the picture was going, so it was worth updating. We got him a Samsung model UE40H5000AK, which isn't a smart one or 3D, which he doesn't need, but does have an HD tuner. Which? said "Great picture quality, impressive sound, good value, score 68%". £275.

It arrived yesterday from Currys and for an extra fee of £10 they took the old one away as well. Happy to recommend Currys as a UK retailer, had a text at 8am giving me a time slot, and a phone call 15 minutes away, excellent service. It is now set up for him and he is quite gobsmacked at the difference between a 27" SD picture and a 40" HD picture as indeed he would be! But here is where I upset Samsung and the Tree Huggers.

To get any decent stable picture you HAVE to turn off the ECO, energy saving, and auto dim features. Those settings screw things up all over the place, and I had to do the same with mine at home. The problem is that at present it is trendy and very much pc and "in" for all household appliances to have a good energy rating, and TV's are no exception. That is one of the reasons why Samsung TV's get top ratings with Which? who are themselves obsessed with energy ratings. But the Samsung kit is still the best of the bunch anyway without all that stuff.

So yes I can honestly recommend Samsung, both Smart and non-smart, but get smart yourself!!! Don't pay good money for top of the range kit and not get the very best out of it.
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Message 1634547 - Posted: 29 Jan 2015, 15:11:53 UTC

Had a meeting today in a Hifi shop in my town, and they had a 55" flat screen on the wall. I said I've just bought a brand new 40" HD set and that picture is way better than mine is. He laughed and said it should be, it's a 4K set!!! The difference is remarkable...... But he said save your money, manufacturers are gearing up to 8K sets in the next couple of years.

And of course all the UK Regional TV studios are all still broadcasting in SD, they haven't even upgraded to HD yet let alone 4K.
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