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tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
I've read it in "Cosmogony of the Solar System" by Fred Hoyle, pag.77 of the Italian edition which I edited in 1979 while working at Mondadori Edizioni Scientifiche. Tullio See also Joachim Herrmann, Atlas zur Astronomie, Munchen 1973, Italian edition Oscar Mondadori 1978, pag.75, |
KLiK Send message Joined: 31 Mar 14 Posts: 1304 Credit: 22,994,597 RAC: 60 |
I've read it in "Cosmogony of the Solar System" by Fred Hoyle, pag.77 of the Italian edition which I edited in 1979 while working at Mondadori Edizioni Scientifiche. Got anything newer? ;) non-profit org. Play4Life in Zagreb, Croatia, EU |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
I've read it in "Cosmogony of the Solar System" by Fred Hoyle, pag.77 of the Italian edition which I edited in 1979 while working at Mondadori Edizioni Scientifiche. Will this do for you? http://www.astronomycafe.net/qadir/q50.html rOZZ Music Pictures |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
Thanks Julie. I trust my books even if they are 30 years old, such as "Beyond the Moon" and "Monsters in the sky" by my friend Paolo Maffei. "Beyond the Moon" had seven Italian editions, all edited by me, before being published by MIT Press in USA. I remember a queer fact about its translation. It was done by Father O"Connell, a British astronomer who was also a Jesuit priest, in beautiful English. When we received the draft proofs Father O"Connell wanted to retract his name. The American editors had translated his English English into American English, and we had to make an effort to have him accept this fact. Tullio |
KLiK Send message Joined: 31 Mar 14 Posts: 1304 Credit: 22,994,597 RAC: 60 |
Will this do for you? Nice...but it only says that the Venus was made by the debris field of the Sun...and something went wrong with the collision with some larger body! Also, Venus doesn't have moon(s)...so that also makes the rotation depended on the revolution...yes, the article is correct! But, no...I don't see any proof that Venus was in fact "foreign body" in Solar system! There are no proof for that...allthough those are some nice ideas, that make so much fictional teories...those fiction needs proof, to become science! Like Sagan always said: "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" That is why I would like to see those flying cities on Venus in upper atmosphere...imagine the all data that we can get from those zepelins? Image what can we find out about the Venus? Image to live in a zepelin above Venus? (and a Top Gun music just plays back on radio...how propper!) :D Imagine how nice it would be to have some algae on board for oxygen...and you release it wrom time to time on Venus...one that eats sulphur (and suphuric acid) & another one that eats carbon dioxide...and slowly, u terraform the planet... ;) non-profit org. Play4Life in Zagreb, Croatia, EU |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19062 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
With a bit of luck we will get some pictures of Pluto but not until next year, even though the New Horizons probe is due to fly past starting in May 2015. BBC - 'Planet' Pluto comes into view Hew Horizons - Nasa's Pluto-Kuiper Belt Probe |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
update. NASA’s New Horizons Spacecraft Begins First Stages of Pluto Encounter NASA's New Horizons spacecraft recently began its long-awaited, historic encounter with Pluto. The spacecraft is entering the first of several approach phases that culminate July 14 with the first close-up flyby of the dwarf planet, 4.67 billion miles (7.5 billion kilometers) from Earth. “NASA first mission to distant Pluto will also be humankind’s first close up view of this cold, unexplored world in our solar system,†said Jim Green, director of NASA’s Planetary Science Division at the agency’s Headquarters in Washington. “The New Horizons team worked very hard to prepare for this first phase, and they did it flawlessly.†http://www.nasa.gov/press/2015/january/nasa-s-new-horizons-spacecraft-begins-first-stages-of-pluto-encounter/index.html#.VLhW_i4k5-w Video and pics with NASA link. |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
Beyond Pluto. Two new planets may be hiding beyond Pluto If the results of two latest studies from Spain and the UK are anything to go by, then two more planets may exist in our solar system and just starting to make their presence known. Astronomers from the UK and Spain have theorized that two new planets exist beyond Pluto – which was recently demoted from the status of a planet – because this logic is the only way to explain the rationale affecting the behavior of objects in the nether regions of Neptune. http://www.worldtechtoday.com/two-new-planets-may-hiding-beyond-pluto/15883 |
KLiK Send message Joined: 31 Mar 14 Posts: 1304 Credit: 22,994,597 RAC: 60 |
Ceres dot: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/blog/2014/12/ceres-curiosities-the-mysterious-world-comes-into-view ;) non-profit org. Play4Life in Zagreb, Croatia, EU |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
New Horizons returns first images from mission's Pluto approach phase The two images in this animation were taken on January 25 and 27, 2015. They were the first acquired during the spacecraft's 2015 approach to the Pluto system. New Horizons was about 203 million kilometers from Pluto when the frames to make the first image were taken; about 2.5 million kilometers closer for the second set. Looks like a planet. http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emily-lakdawalla/2015/02041311-new-horizons-returns-first.html |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
New Horizons returns first images from mission's Pluto approach phase Innit beautiful? Thanx Lynn:) rOZZ Music Pictures |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
New Horizons spots Pluto’s smaller moons for the first time It's not exactly a clean shot, but it's certainly a timely one: 85 years to the day after Pluto's discovery, NASA has released fresh images from New Horizons that show two of its smaller moons. The long-exposure images, which were taken between Jan. 27 and Feb. 8 from a distance of 125 to 115 million miles, show Hydra and Nix -- moons too small to show up in previous shots. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2015/02/18/new-horizons-spots-plutos-smaller-moons/?tid=hpModule_9d3add6c-8a79-11e2-98d9-3012c1cd8d1e Hoping they find more moons. |
Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
I'm waiting for some real images of more than just a few pixels before getting my excitement level up to fever pitch. But at least the cameras are working. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
NASA’s New Horizons Spacecraft Nears Historic July 14 Encounter with Pluto NASA’s New Horizons spacecraft is three months from returning to humanity the first-ever close up images and scientific observations of distant Pluto and its system of large and small moons. "Scientific literature is filled with papers on the characteristics of Pluto and its moons from ground based and Earth orbiting space observations, but we’ve never studied Pluto up close and personal,†said John Grunsfeld, astronaut, and associate administrator of the NASA Science Mission Directorate at the agency’s Headquarters in Washington. “In an unprecedented flyby this July, our knowledge of what the Pluto system is really like will expand exponentially and I have no doubt there will be exciting discoveries." This latest image (shown) reveals Pluto and Charon. http://www.nasa.gov/press/2015/april/nasa-s-new-horizons-spacecraft-nears-historic-july-14-encounter-with-pluto/index.html |
Jim Martin Send message Joined: 21 Jun 03 Posts: 2473 Credit: 646,848 RAC: 0 |
If one figures that just about every possible combination of sun/brown dwarf/ "planet" formation is possible -- including formation of "planets" without being in the range of gravity of a sun, plus those which have been ejected from solar systems, the definition of a "planet" is going to be modified a bit, as knowledge grows. I, personally, don't care one way or the other if Pluto is classified as a planet/dwarf planet/whatever. It would be interesting, if an earth-sized (or larger) planet should be discovered in the Oort Cloud. Even better, would be if it could be later discovered that it was captured by our sun's gravity, from a passing sun's system. It's a universe of almost infinite variety. Classification, hence, can become more dicey, the more pieces of that variety become known. A good example of this is seen with discoveries in the various evolutionary trees, on Earth. |
KLiK Send message Joined: 31 Mar 14 Posts: 1304 Credit: 22,994,597 RAC: 60 |
So, did any of some "Pluto cherishers" been to church? https://www.facebook.com/pages/Church-of-the-Planet-Pluto/575253899189808 :D (just a joke!) non-profit org. Play4Life in Zagreb, Croatia, EU |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Akio Send message Joined: 18 May 11 Posts: 375 Credit: 32,129,242 RAC: 0 |
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Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22202 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Sniff sniff :-( Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
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