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Message 1671087 - Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 9:38:17 UTC - in response to Message 1670973.  

But i do ask is it all ways the mans fault !. can women abuse there men ?

If a guy catcalls then clearly its his fault.

But do women abuse men? Yes, some do, although in different ways. I've never seen women catcall men (well I actually saw it on a video once, but she was making an excellent point about how creepy and inappropriate it is). Is it however relevant to this case or this topic, which is specifically about awful things happening to women? Well clearly not.

On top of that, its a fallacy, saying that women do awful things to men as well, sort of suggesting both sides are in the wrong. It suggests that both sides are equally in the wrong which is not true, and it ignores vital differences such as the extremely skewered balance of power between both sides.
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Message 1671091 - Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 10:08:26 UTC - in response to Message 1671013.  

Your problem in recognising just how much of a predatory misogynist you really are, is your vastly deluded opinion of yourself as a gift to womankind. You are not. Our skin crawling off into the distance is a clue.

I have contributed enough on these boards


I'm gone, not just from this project but boinc itself.

Unlike others, I won't be back as I have better things to do with both my time & life.

Shame that didn't work out for us all.

where you get the thought that I do not care about sexual harassment...
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I'll spell it out for you. Because you get off on it. The only time you preach against sexism is for as long as it gives you an opportunity to spout your xenophobia and bigotry. The flaunting of your political affiliation alongside every one of your repellent posts speaks volumes.

How far down the line will feminism go? Will it get to the point where men are criminalised just for looking at a woman in public?'

Is that what it will take to make you stop? If I thought it would mean an end to being subjected to the dehumanising experience of having to read posts like this

Wonderful things happen while wearing a kilt...

...I'll leave you all to decode that :-)


emanating from your keyboard, then it can't happen soon enough.

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Message 1671128 - Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 12:19:42 UTC

And the wolf-whistle news is on the BBC website:


Woman goes to police over wolf whistles

A 23-year-old woman repeatedly wolf whistled by builders reported them to the police...

... She told Newsbeat: "Every day I'd walk past and they'd wolf whistle. They'd even come out of the building site to wolf whistle as I'd continue down the road.

"One of the guys got up in my face and all he said was 'morning love', but it was in a very aggressive way and the other one sneered.

"They blocked the pavement and I had to walk around them."...



All rather unpleasant for the victim.

But also... Note something very wrong with that article?


Where are the ugly mug shots of the building site ignorant grunts?

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Message 1671136 - Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 12:38:07 UTC - in response to Message 1671128.  
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But also... Note something very wrong with that article?
Where are the ugly mug shots of the building site ignorant grunts?

Yes, only pictures of the victim...
http://www.worcesterontheweb.com/businesses/builders/fimeca+building+%2526+maintenance/pershore/a484544/
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Message 1671181 - Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 14:54:45 UTC

The problem with feminism today is that it has gone too far. When you see successful women on TV getting attacked by feminists when they state that feminists do not speak for them, makes one wonder...

...Are the current feminists against successful women because...

A: They made it in a man's world
B: They're stunningly beautiful & used that beauty to achieve their success
C: A+B

...whereas they are fat & frumpy, unattractive, been abused, lack self confidence & rather than change their outlook, attack others?

It seems in today's world, men are seen as a target by these "feminists" yet do not attack those women whose motto is: -

"If you've got it, flaunt it" & do financially well from that.

It would be nice if "women" all sang from the same hymn book, until that happens, we'll continue to see these "battles"
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Message 1671187 - Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 15:26:45 UTC - in response to Message 1671136.  

But also... Note something very wrong with that article?
Where are the ugly mug shots of the building site ignorant grunts?

Yes, only pictures of the victim...
http://www.worcesterontheweb.com/businesses/builders/fimeca+building+%2526+maintenance/pershore/a484544/

Where's that link meant to go?
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Message 1671192 - Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 15:51:13 UTC - in response to Message 1671181.  

The problem with feminism today is that it has gone too far. When you see successful women on TV getting attacked by feminists when they state that feminists do not speak for them, makes one wonder...

...Are the current feminists against successful women because...

A: They made it in a man's world
B: They're stunningly beautiful & used that beauty to achieve their success
C: A+B

...whereas they are fat & frumpy, unattractive, been abused, lack self confidence & rather than change their outlook, attack others?

It seems in today's world, men are seen as a target by these "feminists" yet do not attack those women whose motto is: -

"If you've got it, flaunt it" & do financially well from that.

It would be nice if "women" all sang from the same hymn book, until that happens, we'll continue to see these "battles"

From your comments it is looking to me like feminism has not gone far enough. We clearly still have a long way to go.
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Message 1671194 - Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 15:54:28 UTC - in response to Message 1671166.  


Since Tami and Hev Posts are not 'Hidden', and vicious personal attacks, and name calling, are apparently within The Rules:

Both Hev and Tami are expressing their disgust and frustration and although they are certainly skirting close to edge, they have not yet done anything more than you and others have done on numerous occasions and not been modded for it.

This is my, and I hope, other Civilized persons thinking...

Again, another poster 'Outing' their Need to Project Their 'Inner Darkness' upon others.

Why do these 'Types' always cheer, and encourage, their Darkness in Others?

Guess one of the negatives of Human Nature.

It is clear to me exactly where the darkness lies.
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Message 1671210 - Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 16:09:39 UTC - in response to Message 1671187.  
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But also... Note something very wrong with that article?
Where are the ugly mug shots of the building site ignorant grunts?

Yes, only pictures of the victim...
http://www.worcesterontheweb.com/businesses/builders/fimeca+building+%2526+maintenance/pershore/a484544/

Where's that link meant to go?

The company where the offenders are working in Worcester England.
The harresments was done in front of their construction site for a month or so.
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Message 1671235 - Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 21:41:28 UTC - in response to Message 1671181.  

The problem with feminism today is that it has gone too far. When you see successful women on TV getting attacked by feminists when they state that feminists do not speak for them, makes one wonder...

...Are the current feminists against successful women because...

A: They made it in a man's world
B: They're stunningly beautiful & used that beauty to achieve their success
C: A+B

...whereas they are fat & frumpy, unattractive, been abused, lack self confidence & rather than change their outlook, attack others?

It seems in today's world, men are seen as a target by these "feminists" yet do not attack those women whose motto is: -

"If you've got it, flaunt it" & do financially well from that.

It would be nice if "women" all sang from the same hymn book, until that happens, we'll continue to see these "battles"


I used to have some respect for you Sirius.
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Message 1671239 - Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 21:57:57 UTC

I used to have some respect for you Sirius.


Sirius 'is' Spot On. He has Got Reality Nailed.

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Message 1671262 - Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 22:32:17 UTC - in response to Message 1671235.  

The problem with feminism today is that it has gone too far. When you see successful women on TV getting attacked by feminists when they state that feminists do not speak for them, makes one wonder...

...Are the current feminists against successful women because...

A: They made it in a man's world
B: They're stunningly beautiful & used that beauty to achieve their success
C: A+B

...whereas they are fat & frumpy, unattractive, been abused, lack self confidence & rather than change their outlook, attack others?

It seems in today's world, men are seen as a target by these "feminists" yet do not attack those women whose motto is: -

"If you've got it, flaunt it" & do financially well from that.

It would be nice if "women" all sang from the same hymn book, until that happens, we'll continue to see these "battles"


I used to have some respect for you Sirius.

That's a shame as everything stated is online. Some of the videos & posts are hilarious. Asides from that, what is false about those statements?

Men attack women (I don't mean physically) & the verbal abuse that comes their way...

...women attacking women is all right then I take it?
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Message 1671280 - Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 23:20:02 UTC - in response to Message 1670950.  
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...she's frightened & intimidated? Why, ...


So, to try to add some male context...

I, a complete stranger, the physique of Brad Pitt, strolls into your local, orders a beer and leans against the bar slightly drunkenly whilst taking a bored look around. I spy you sitting across the room hunched over your dominos. Above the gentle hubbub and the click of the ivories comes my trill voice wafting over clearly in your direction:

I DO LIKE YOUR SIVERY HAIR.

Eyes watch your every move...


Would you like too meet up? I'm over in London next week :-)


Sirius:

Like to meet up?

See how sexy you are for some modern day old style abuse?? ;-)

You doooo sound good for IT! :-P


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Message 1671289 - Posted: 29 Apr 2015, 0:23:30 UTC

Shame, Embarrassment, Hiding: Your Stories of Dudes Checking You Out

This. Is. What. We. Deal. With.

I still remember when I was about 16 a guy came running up to me really upset and told me a man had just run up to him and flashed him.

I was 16 and even then I didn't know if this was just this man's way of leading up to sexually harassing me, getting a kick out of my discomfort or if what he claimed was real. Either way I wasn't very sympathetic because that sh*t had happened to me quite a few times by then and I thought he should just man up and deal with random strangers flashing their bits at you because that's what men do.

I was 16 and already that jaded and cynical. I couldn't even being to remember all the times I had been sexually harassed by strangers by then.

MarySamsonite said:

I feel like we spend a lot of time teaching girls how to respond to jerks and very little time teaching boys not to be jerks.


Its starts young. With boys sitting behind you in class wanking off under their desks or trying to see down your blouse or calling out lewd comments to you as you walk by. It doesn't get better.

Do you know how many men have sat next to me on buses and started to touch themselves? I don't. Its just one of those things that happens.

Do you know how many men have pressed themselves up against me in crowded public places? I couldn't count. I just prepare for it.

Any idiot who thinks that any lever of this behaviour is acceptable or somehow something to do with what a women does or wears is a sexist pig.
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Message 1671394 - Posted: 29 Apr 2015, 8:05:14 UTC



I mentioned Germaine Greer before. I would suggest that most men haven't got much time for her, greer.


Now that is not a good example at all to put forward Chris as she has been proved to be a liar on ever so many occasions.

Firstly most women here blamed her and her small group of fanatics back in the 60'/70's as being an anchor to the progress of the women's equality movement.

Secondly it was not the men here who drove from these shores to yours, it was the women here who spat in her face everyday (my late missus was 1 of them in fact).

Thirdly she has stated that she has always asked for the permission of the Aboriginal people here whenever she has returned, the Aboriginal Council has stated several times now that at no time have they, or any of their members, have ever been officially approached by her for any reason what so ever.

Fourthly, yes that page says that she now works for Aboriginal rights, but the Aboriginal Council (or any of their members) have never seen, or had, reports of her out in remote regions here (she'd probably get lost 5mins outside the suburbs here).

She has only ever been known here a compulsive liar (by both sexes) just seeking attention.

In fact, every time she comes back here she has to run back to the "Motherland" with her tail between her legs in a hurry because she's insulted either the women or aborigines (or both) here with some stupid statement.

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Message 1671444 - Posted: 29 Apr 2015, 11:35:01 UTC - in response to Message 1671410.  

Personally I would have thought that women can't feel truly liberated until they do have equality with men, perhaps I've got it wrong?

I think her argument is that 'equality' with men can be misconstrued as being 'like men'. So it would force women to become more like men, rather than have women create their own sense of what it means to be a woman. Otherwise, if women try to be like men, they still let men define who and what they are because men have always defined for themselves what being a man is. I think there is a lot to be said for this argument. Don't dismiss this argument just because Greer has said and done some other truly awful things.
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Message 1671467 - Posted: 29 Apr 2015, 13:20:31 UTC

I was talking to my mother on the phone last night and i mentioned the whistling builders story. She said she was jealous of Poppy Smart because no-one's whistled at her for at least twenty years and she misses it.
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Message 1671476 - Posted: 29 Apr 2015, 14:22:39 UTC
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A senior United Nations aid worker has been suspended for disclosing to prosecutors an internal report on the sexual abuse of children by French peacekeeping troops in the Central African Republic.
Sources close to the case said Anders Kompass passed the document to the French authorities because of the UN’s failure to take action to stop the abuse. The report documented the sexual exploitation of children as young as nine by French troops stationed in the country as part of international peacekeeping efforts.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/29/un-aid-worker-suspended-leaking-report-child-abuse-french-troops-car

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Message 1671510 - Posted: 29 Apr 2015, 15:52:11 UTC - in response to Message 1671382.  
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Just some comments here.

I was 16 and already that jaded and cynical.

Is not feeling that way a bit unusual for the average 16 year old girl, now or back then. Did the other girls in your class or your other friends also have the same view?

Are you suggesting that I am being a little "hysterical" or "over reacting" Chris? I have no idea why you find the experience of women so hard to believe. Do you think as a male you live in a bubble? Some of the things that were said and done to my best friend because she developed early were way worse. It was just the way it was.

With boys sitting behind you in class ******* off under their desks

Did you or other girls report it to the teacher or head of year. Behaviour like that is totally crass and completely unacceptable. Did other girls in the class see it and do anything about it? Was it just your particular school where that sort of thing happened?

Of course the teachers told them off, but, boys will be boys.

Knowing your mother I can't believe that she wouldn't have raised merry hell at her daughter having to put up with that at school.

Why would I even bother to tell her? It was normal, everyday stuff. I don't have the right to describe here the things I saw done and said by strangers to my mother in public, in front of me. If she wants to tell, she will. I also know as a teacher the things that were done to my students.

There is nothing 'special' about me. I did not do something to deserve this and I would be very careful about even suggesting that, if I were you.


Are you saying it happens in Canada as much as it did in the UK?

Not as much. I have merely had comments made to me here or about me when I am in hearing range.

As most people know, I met you a number of times in the UK before you relocated to Canada, and I have no reason whatsoever to doubt anything you have said, but have you been extraordinarily unlucky or is it the truth that all this happens every day to every woman everywhere in all countries?

I've seen it happen to enough of my family and friends to have no doubt that it is a regular part of the female experience. Of course they will never do it if you are with a man, so of course you would not see it.

And one last point. I accept that it may well be down to my age group but I do find some women these days are less gracious than they used to be. I will hold a door open for a woman as simply good manners, time and time again I get told, it's OK, I can open it on my own thankyou. Or if I offer seat to a woman on a bus or train seemingly struggling with an armful of bags, the reply often is, I can manage thankyou, accompanied with a look that clearly says don't patronise me just because I'm a female, I'm just as good as you, and I'll prove it.

Or they could just suspect your motives and want you to leave them alone?

Once on a bus I didn't offer a seat in similar circumstances, and an elderly woman nearby told me off for NOT doing so! There are times us chaps feel we just can't win whatever we do.

Oh boo hoo. Are you really trying to suggest that you men have it so hard? That is laughable.

The days have certainly gone where Edwardian women used to "accidentally" drop their hankerchief in the vicinity of a man they were attracted to. These days they'd likely match you pint for pint down the pub! Perhaps the world would be better off with all male and all female communities?

Or men could just learn that they are not entitled to comment on strangers appearances as if we are objects and not people.
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Message 1671513 - Posted: 29 Apr 2015, 15:55:26 UTC - in response to Message 1671467.  

I was talking to my mother on the phone last night and i mentioned the whistling builders story. She said she was jealous of Poppy Smart because no-one's whistled at her for at least twenty years and she misses it.

Good for her. I am not sure why she needs the approval of strangers in the street, is she not getting enough from elsewhere?

If wolf whistling is a 'compliment' as men claim, why do they only compliment women? Why don't they shout compliments at other men? If that is all it is, then surely they would be doing that.
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