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![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 16 Dec 07 Posts: 625 Credit: 3,590,440 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Hi Speedy, Lucky you:-) This is what I just got:-/ 13/12/2014 05:23:07 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for NVIDIA GPU 13/12/2014 05:23:10 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks 13/12/2014 05:23:10 | SETI@home | No tasks sent 13/12/2014 05:23:10 | SETI@home | No tasks are available for AstroPulse v7 13/12/2014 05:23:10 | SETI@home | Tasks for CPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them Summats still up in server land!! Regards, Cliff, Been there, Done that, Still no damm T shirt! ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 16 Dec 07 Posts: 625 Credit: 3,590,440 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Hi All, And once again its the weekend:-/ And once again its servers going doolalli:-) After succeeding in a getting a few WU, [mb] now once again its:-- 13/12/2014 18:13:03 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. 13/12/2014 18:13:03 | SETI@home | Reporting 1 completed tasks 13/12/2014 18:13:03 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for NVIDIA GPU 13/12/2014 18:13:05 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks 13/12/2014 18:13:05 | SETI@home | No tasks sent 13/12/2014 18:13:05 | SETI@home | No tasks are available for SETI@home Enhanced 13/12/2014 18:13:05 | SETI@home | No tasks are available for AstroPulse v6 13/12/2014 18:13:05 | SETI@home | No tasks are available for AstroPulse v7 13/12/2014 18:13:05 | SETI@home | Tasks for CPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them I dunno what the devil Carolyn is playing at, but she needs a good sort out if she cant do the simple task of dishing out WU that are showing as available in stats... [edit] And I turn my back for a minute or two to post here and... 13/12/2014 18:18:10 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 13/12/2014 18:18:10 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for NVIDIA GPU 13/12/2014 18:18:14 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 42 new tasks Regards, Cliff, Been there, Done that, Still no damm T shirt! ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 24 Mar 07 Posts: 268 Credit: 34,410,870 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I find that Astropulse is the only thing worth spending hydro crunching on. What is the problem now. It was going great and now I can't get any new tasks. GPU is out. As far as other projects I'm not interested. So do we wait until after Tuesday again before the splitters are back up. There is a ton of AP to do, so lets do them |
Cruncher-American ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 25 Mar 02 Posts: 1513 Credit: 370,893,186 RAC: 340 ![]() ![]() |
There is a ton of AP to do, so lets do them Can't do them if the system(s) that distribute them aren't working. Which seems to be the problem. Just like: A car with a dead battery isn't going anywhere even though it is sitting there all gassed up. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 37621 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 ![]() ![]() |
Hi All, There are a lot of VLAR's around Cliff which is why you're seeing that. Out of interest, what is your cache set at? Maybe increasing it would help you. Cheers. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 16 Dec 07 Posts: 625 Credit: 3,590,440 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Hi Wiggo, Tried increasing cache:-) No go.. but apparently ignoring the problem makes it go away:-) Cant see why Carolyn refuses a user request, then within 5 mins honours a standard BM request.. Weird... Regards, Cliff, Been there, Done that, Still no damm T shirt! ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 37621 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 ![]() ![]() |
Hi Wiggo, Its just if the feeder at the time of your request is filled with VLAR's then the server will not send your them to your GPU/s and you'll just have to wait until it has the type of work that it can send to them. Cheers. |
Claggy Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4654 Credit: 47,537,079 RAC: 4 ![]() |
Hi All, Carolyn isn't playing at anything, If the feeder is full of VLARs (Which aren't sent to GPUs), and you only ask for GPU work, you'll get no work, ask for CPU work, and you'll rotate those VLARs out of those feeder slots, they may be replaced with more VLARs, or maybe with non-VLARs, Hopefully when you host asks for work again, another host has already asked for CPU work, got VLAR work, and then hopefully the feeder slots then get filled with non-VLARs, and when your host ask for GPU work your host gets those non-VLARs, my i7-2600K's CPU tasks at present are all VLARs. Claggy |
Cosmic_Ocean ![]() Send message Joined: 23 Dec 00 Posts: 3027 Credit: 13,516,867 RAC: 13 ![]() ![]() |
Well, I'm glad I was able to get a full 10-day AP cache in the short time it was up and running. Hopefully this time, I don't run dry before it comes back, but even if I do, that's not really a problem. Linux laptop: record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up) |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1859 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349 ![]() ![]() |
Well, somebody's definitely playing, and not just trouble in AP world. SSP shows 14 PFB(MB) splitters in work on channels right now, interesting as there are only 7 available to split. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13904 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 ![]() ![]() |
Well, somebody's definitely playing, and not just trouble in AP world. SSP shows 14 PFB(MB) splitters in work on channels right now, interesting as there are only 7 available to split. Been that way for several days now. Grant Darwin NT |
![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 ![]() |
I think mine is much cooler: 14/12/2014 00:56:40 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for AMD/ATI GPU 14/12/2014 00:56:40 | SETI@home | [sched_op] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices 14/12/2014 00:56:40 | SETI@home | [sched_op] AMD/ATI GPU work request: 9599.84 seconds; 0.00 devices 14/12/2014 00:56:42 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks 14/12/2014 00:56:42 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Server version 705 14/12/2014 00:56:42 | SETI@home | No tasks sent 14/12/2014 00:56:42 | SETI@home | No tasks are available for AstroPulse v7 14/12/2014 00:56:42 | SETI@home | Tasks for CPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them 14/12/2014 00:56:42 | SETI@home | Tasks for NVIDIA GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them 14/12/2014 00:56:42 | SETI@home | Tasks for Intel GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them :) |
Richard Haselgrove ![]() Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14690 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 ![]() ![]() |
Hi All, Here's some anecdotal evidence in support of that. Earlier this morning, I noticed my NVidia machines were getting 'No tasks sent' on every request. I have a test machine (host 7118033) which processes VLARs very well on CPU, and which I normally keep on a short cache. So I bumped it... 14-Dec-2014 11:41:06 [SETI@home] [sched_op] Starting scheduler request Every single one of those 74 tasks was a VLAR - and since I did that, my NVidia machines have started receiving new tasks again. One swallow doesn't make a summer, but if other active users here have CPU-only machines, they might consider letting them do periodic 'feeder cleansing' operations like that. |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34468 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 ![]() ![]() |
I have only VLARs on CPU but also enough tasks for my GPU. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
Richard Haselgrove ![]() Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14690 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 ![]() ![]() |
I have only VLARs on CPU but also enough tasks for my GPU. The point I was trying to make is that this might be one of the few cases where some careful micro-management of a single computer might be enough to help the smooth running of the project as a whole. But that one machine can only help out once every two or three days, because it takes that much time to burn off the excess cache. And the feeder gets polluted again much quicker than that - so having more volunteers to help with the process would be beneficial. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 ![]() ![]() |
I have only VLARs on CPU but also enough tasks for my GPU. Most of my machines are CPU only. They are not exactly fast, but slurp up the overrun of VLAR tasks happily. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours ![]() |
Claggy Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4654 Credit: 47,537,079 RAC: 4 ![]() |
I have only VLARs on CPU but also enough tasks for my GPU. Got my C2D E8500 to ask for CPU work, got 27 VLARs, got it to ask for CPU work again, got 71 VLARs (Total 98 VLARs), just finishing off my last two CPU non VLARs. Edit: A quick runthrough of those VLARs found me 8 overflows, the next work request gave me 8 replacement VLARs. Claggy |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 16 Dec 07 Posts: 625 Credit: 3,590,440 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I have only VLARs on CPU but also enough tasks for my GPU. I could have sworn, that on several occasions I'd been told that there were NO device specific WU, that a task could be either GPU or CPU.. Seems I was mistaken, there are apparently device specific WU, VLAR's it seems are CPU specific.. Ah well you live and learn:-) Regards, Cliff, Been there, Done that, Still no damm T shirt! ![]() |
Wedge009 ![]() Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 451 Credit: 431,396,357 RAC: 553 ![]() ![]() |
Tasks are still not CPU or GPU specific, but for quite some time now WUs identified as being VLAR are prevented from being sent to GPUs. At the time this started, NV GPUs really had trouble processing such tasks (sometimes with longer run-times than corresponding CPU processing, or even causing display lag/crashes). AMD GPUs also struggled with VLAR WUs, but generally not as severely as their NV counterparts. So the server filters these tasks from being sent to GPUs - they are not 'CPU-specific' as such. Soli Deo Gloria |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 16 Dec 07 Posts: 625 Credit: 3,590,440 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Hi Wedge009, Ahh, that jibes with my sometimes flakey memory:-) Because I seem to recall getting several VLAR's that went to my GPU's, didn't find a problem AFAIR. Certainly no display crashes, seen a bit of display 'jitter' but not from S@H tasks as such. Cliff, Been there, Done that, Still no damm T shirt! ![]() |
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